Set all armor types to their respective classes.

[Sylvana]

As well know, templars and inquisitors can wear plate, chain and leather armor, shamans can wear chain, and leather, druids are only allowed leather...Part of the reason plate healers especially own druids is this reason. For example, water sprinkler gloves, rune etched helm, rotten chestwraps of the guilty, a cleric can equip all THREE of these, whilst a druid can only equip the chestwraps which is actually significantly worse than the rune etched helm and water sprinkler gloves which are INSANELY powerful, i look at them on our guild clerics and think "omg cool, but how come they can wear the best healer helm in the game which ONLY shamans should be allowed to wear because its chain, and rotten chestwraps of the guilty"This unbalances the game, druids are ONLY allowed leather armor, shamans are allowed leather AND chain, clerics are allowed plate,chain,leather armor, clerics get the picks and choosies of all 3 types of armor, whilst shamans got picks of 2, and druids only get the leather bits?Why is this soe?IMHO, the armor should be locked to their respective classes, i.e as a druid i am only allowed to wear leather, as a shaman, you are only allowed to wear chain, and as a cleric, you are only allowed to wear plate armor. That is how it should be, but yet it is not, levelling up, it isnt too bad, but once you hit the level cap and start raiding and start having all these awesome loots dropping, the difference becomes painfully apparent. I can stay 2nd or 3rd on the ZW heal parse as a warden, i only get 2nd when there is no templar or defiler on the raid.This needs fixing. The problem has been outlined in RoK with the huge amount of BRILLIANT healer loots dropping which clerics can wear all of, shamans can wear most of, and druids can wear very little of...

[Rahatmattata]

So you wan't your raid nerfed. If they intended the item to be shaman onry they would have marked it shaman onry. As far as being able to wear other types of armor, it has always been this way, I can't think of any good reason to change that, and I doubt they will change it to accomidate a jealous druid.

[Oisin]

I agree with the original poster, and it isn't just jealousy here.  If I wear chain, then I want to wear chain.  So, give me a chain item that is just as powerful as the lower ac items.  Please put an end to this now.  Design armor for the right classes and restrict them to those classes. 

[Oh]

I will agree there are some issues with itemization, what you are suggesting thou is a problem. The problem is that sometimes we pick up other pieces of gear just for the resists.

[Sylvana]

<cite>Rahatmattata wrote:</cite><blockquote>So you wan't your raid nerfed. If they intended the item to be shaman onry they would have marked it shaman onry. As far as being able to wear other types of armor, it has always been this way, I can't think of any good reason to change that, and I doubt they will change it to accomidate a jealous druid.</blockquote>Oh it isnt jealousy mate, trust me, i also knew someone would say this, they always do.The fact is, ALL druids get screwed from RoK itemisation, and have been screwed for 4 years when it comes to gears, however, templars and inquisitors are sitting in happyland on top of their best-of-all-three-armor-types mountain. This is a fundamental problem with priests and has been since eq2 launch.Im only saying this about armor slots, aka head,chests,shoulders,forearms,hands,legs,feet. As for everything else, its fair game. Just THE BEST healer items in the game are only usable by clerics and shamans, and the clerics can use the stuff the shamans can use as well as the awesome stuff they can use. One of the main things worthwhile for me at the moment which is an OMG DRUID OWNAGE item, is rotten chestwraps of the guilty, even if it does have a tiny proc rate, and ALL priests can use it, so once again a cleric can equip this, the uber gloves of uberness, and the rune etched helm, which add a monumental amount to a heal parse(rotten chestwraps proc doesnt actually show up on a heal parse, but fyreflyte already explained why this doesnt happen, but for the benefit of this thread, lets just think it adds to heal parse)

[Rahatmattata]

I usually see clerics and shamans crying about all the leather stuff they have to use. This is a first. Btw some of the best plate tank pants in the game can't be worn by guardians so it's nothing new and I don't think it needs to be changed (wearing lower mit gear). And you might not call it jealousy I don't really care what you call it. Someone in your guild has an item you can't have so you felt a need to make a thread about it.

[Kizee]

You do realize most of the best healer stuff in the game is chain or leather right? If Fyreflyte would get out of his "all healers can wear leather so thats all I am going to make for healers" attitude than i would be all for restricting armors to different classes.

[Armawk]

<p>There IS a valid larger point here, but its 4 years too late to change it, which is that everyone can wear pretty  much all mage gear, most can wear pretty much all cloth and leather, and so on up getting narrower and narrower.. This means that heavy classes can wear any gear at all, even the most uber mage gear sometimes for resists etc as was mentioned, but light classes have no choices but their intended class gear.</p><p>Its a bit broken, and silly, but we are stuck with it.</p>

[Rahatmattata]

I like being able to equip gear that isn't specifically designed for my class. Say for example the healing chain helm that drops in SoH; I forget what it's called. Let's say it's shaman onry. Maybe you have 2 shamans on the raid, once they have it then what? Crunch it, give it to alts, sell loot rights... whatever it's wasted loot noone can use. Another example is in runnyeye2 there is a pretty decent plate BP that drops there but it's crusader only. Kinda sucky as a guardian seeing as how it was a significant upgrade over the BP I've been using from Maiden's. But whatever, the devs decided only crusaders should be able to use the item. I would rather see it open to any class that can equip plate.

[Kyom]

I start to get tired of this discussion.We clerics are FORCED to wear lower type armor just because counterparts for leather or chain for even legendary versions just most of the time don't exist in plate.I mean you guys did see the OFFICIAL post by fireflyte where he says that he intentionally doesn't design the same items for the heavier armor BECAUSE we can use all types, right?And since the gloves from SoH come up pretty much in every thread and are touted as the end of all healing gear:I checked everquest2player profiles of over 200 clerics (templars and inquisitors) and checked how many of the high end reading clerics actually have/use the gloves in the current inventory.I found 32 players out of over around 200, that is ~16%. Now, those players stilly might have them but not equipped by the time the automatic update happened but that also means that the gloves are obviously not as uber to use them over anything else. Not to mention the gloves and the helmet drop VERY rarely (which imo is very frustrating but totally justififed). I have been to SoH without seeing a single drop of the gloves and one drop of the chain helmet.I haven't checked the SoH chain helm and I personally think it's quite more powerful then the gloves. What I am saying is, the items you keep mentioning don't drop like candy and not every cleric and their mother are running around with those gloves. This needs to be taken into consideration as well.That said, I totally agree with Kizee, I would be all for fair equal healer items if they would get off their lazy [Removed for Content] and design equally powerful items for every type of armor.

[Noaani]

<cite>Kandra@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>I would be all for fair equal healer items if they would get off their lazy [Removed for Content] and design equally powerful items for every type of armor.</blockquote>Only if they were put on smart loot, but personally, I would rather leave it the way its been since release.

[Killerbee3000]

<cite>Kandra@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>I start to get tired of this discussion.We clerics are FORCED to wear lower type armor just because counterparts for leather or chain for even legendary versions just most of the time don't exist in plate.I mean you guys did see the OFFICIAL post by fireflyte where he says that he intentionally doesn't design the same items for the heavier armor BECAUSE we can use all types, right?And since the gloves from SoH come up pretty much in every thread and are touted as the end of all healing gear:I checked everquest2player profiles of over 200 clerics (templars and inquisitors) and checked how many of the high end reading clerics actually have/use the gloves in the current inventory.I found 32 players out of over around 200, that is ~16%. Now, those players stilly might have them but not equipped by the time the automatic update happened but that also means that the gloves are obviously not as uber to use them over anything else. Not to mention the gloves and the helmet drop VERY rarely (which imo is very frustrating but totally justififed). I have been to SoH without seeing a single drop of the gloves and one drop of the chain helmet.I haven't checked the SoH chain helm and I personally think it's quite more powerful then the gloves. What I am saying is, the items you keep mentioning don't drop like candy and not every cleric and their mother are running around with those gloves. This needs to be taken into consideration as well.That said, I totally agree with Kizee, I would be all for fair equal healer items if they would get off their lazy [Removed for Content] and design equally powerful items for every type of armor.</blockquote><p>and shammies have to wear leather as well... not like clerics only that got shafted there.</p><p>the reason for the 16% is the rarity of the gloves and the helm, those are intentionally dropping far less often than anything else, see <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?&topic_id=426758" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> for dev post about that.</p>

[tikasa]

<p>Look at the notes ... Bards Clerics Shamen Druids Class specific armor coming...  so NO MORE CROSSDRESSING!</p>

[Kari]

<p>I know they redid the legendary RoK sets because the leather set was dropping as smart loot for both clerics and shamans.  Could you link to the post about class specific loot coming out? Are there other class specific pieces coming out or just those? </p><p>RoK was initially a very frustrating expansion for me, with all the best group healer loot created in leather; and the chain and plate being added as an afterthought due to our complaints. I wouldn't object to armor being class specific, but we would need some equality. If you look at all the high level healers, druids represent almost half the healers while shaman and clerics remain relatively rare, so I don't know that druids have been hurt at all by other classes being forced to wear leather at times.</p><p>Healers -- Total -- DistributionDruids -- 9966 -- 47.8%Shamans -- 4916 -- 23.6%Clerics -- 5963 -- 28.6%</p><p>stats from : <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=426094" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=426094</a></p>

[Illine]

<p>it's normal and logical that someone who can wear plate can also wear leather and chain. </p><p>If you can cast spells and fight with plate armor, you'll have no problem fighting with chain, leather or cloth.</p><p>the contrary doesn't work. that's all</p>

[Antipalad]

No, no, and more no. I don't want to go back to times where 90% of loot got transmuted due to being class/archetype specific.

[skinandbones]

<cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote>You do realize most of the best healer stuff in the game is chain or leather right? If Fyreflyte would get out of his "all healers can wear leather so thats all I am going to make for healers" attitude than i would be all for restricting armors to different classes.</blockquote><p>QFT!!!!</p><p>This is the main reason why druids, shamans and cleric see this issue.</p><p>If my templar wanted to wear chain I would of played a class that can only wear that type of armor. </p>