Bruisers are best farmers?

[Op]

I have been away from the game for quite a while, and am starting fresh. Early on I would like to focus on making some money to get my gear and skills up to par.I have heard Bruisers are among the best at solo farming dungeons for named drops, some say even better than Necros or Wizards. Is this true? How does it work?Thanks for any info <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[evilgamer]

<p>lol, is this what our class has been reduced to</p><p>a farm class?</p><p>lol</p>

[Moonbaby]

I've heard from many people that monks are the best famers. Invis and FD are a great combo to get to the named faster. Bruisers can of course solo kill named better, but monks are more efficient for overall farming.

[ganjookie]

lies

[Xanrn]

<cite>Moonbaby@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I've heard from many people that monks are the best famers. Invis and FD are a great combo to get to the named faster. Bruisers can of course solo kill named better, but monks are more efficient for overall farming.</blockquote>Non-RoK dungeons yes very good.But anyone who says they are the best farmers of RoK Dungeons is lying, the nameds melee for large amounts and unless you have Root your not soloing any named unless your geared hardcore.Now the best at farming shinys, yes.

[evilgamer]

<cite>Xanrn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Moonbaby@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>I've heard from many people that monks are the best famers. Invis and FD are a great combo to get to the named faster. Bruisers can of course solo kill named better, but monks are more efficient for overall farming.</blockquote>Non-RoK dungeons yes very good.But anyone who says they are the best farmers of RoK Dungeons is lying, the nameds melee for large amounts and unless you have Root your not soloing any named unless your geared hardcore.Now the best at farming shinys, yes.</blockquote><p>Truth, the myth that your average instance/MC bruiser is running around KC soloing named needs to die.</p><p>The only brawlers I know that can do that are raid geared brawlers at the very high end.</p>

[Pnaxx]

Back in the day before AA's, yea, were could kill named mobs easy. That has changed a bit. In R.O.K, we really have no chance at all. Other would do better at that. For money, best bet is to just harvest rares.

[Op]

Sweet thanks for all the answers.And...what makes brawlers better at farming shinies than anyone else? I never understand that when I hear it, but I hear it a lot.

[Stabbath]

Bruisers don't get invis? Cool, I feel unscrewed as a monk now. A couple of Bruisers' CAs make me drool and came over here to see if I should switch. I like the the port ca, which I would have to go up a crappy aa line to get I think (as a monk).

[Copernus]

<p>My bruiser is one of the best at getting shinies because of</p><p>1) 97% FD works most of the time</p><p>2) Close Mind. Ignore stuns,roots,stifles,etc. Great for ignoring names who do that a lot.</p><p>3) Mezz and Fear Mob. Technique is to get close to shiny with one or two MOBs near shiny. Mezz one MOB and Fear the other. You have about 9-12 seconds to harvest the shiny.</p><p>4) Self-Heal for a goodly number of your hps. Also use the Unglued Alchemist neckpiece for 2nd heal.</p><p>5) Very high avoidance allows you to ignore being beat on while you are harvesting shiny. If you don't get beat to death you can usually get the shiny and FD in time. Works great for regular harvesting of T8 ores and rocks also.</p><p>6) I usually adjust my gear for shiny runs to Jboots, Master Alchemist cloak and Kunark glasses for run speed of 65% and ability to see blue shinies. I also always go defensive stance to boost my avoidance up to 65-70%.</p><p>The simple fact is that a bruiser can go places almost no other class can including even some T7 raid zones. We can harvest the rare blue Chokadai shinies in Chardok palace for a very uber haste belt and even get some of the shinies in RE2. Karnor's Castle is a piece of cake as is upper and lower Sebilis.</p><p>On pickup or casual raids I am usually number 2 in parses and even in a well-equipped raid I usually am in 5th place in the parse list. I currently use my fabled epic and expect things to improve when I get my mythical shortly.</p><p>All in all, my bruiser is my funnest most versatile character. I also have a 80 brigand, 80 berserker and 80 fury.</p>

[circusgirl]

<p>As a monk I can walk into a full RE2 instance and clear every single shiny in the zone.  Will make me an easy 15-20pp per instance.</p>

[Mogzilla]

<p>Monks are better farms currently due to tsuami and 2nd FD</p><p>If bruiser has myth and after new AA it should be the same.</p>

[daleg]

<p>actually i can pick up all re2 shineys on my bruiser as well. takes some time though since mythical has 6 mins reuse timer >.<</p>

[Thumatos]

<p>Umm,  Dont want to start a flame or troll.  But why would bruisers be considered best.  I have both bruiser and sk.  SK can kill things bruiser cant handle.  at 35 was soloing in nek castle with sk.  got couple levs outa it.  i very much doubt my bruiser could do the same.  Does this disparity change as bruisers gain in levels?  I really do wanna know.</p>

[Aull]

<p><cite>Thumatos wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Umm,  Dont want to start a flame or troll.  But why would bruisers be considered best.  I have both bruiser and sk.  SK can kill things bruiser cant handle.  at 35 was soloing in nek castle with sk.  got couple levs outa it.  i very much doubt my bruiser could do the same.  Does this disparity change as bruisers gain in levels?  I really do wanna know.</p></blockquote><p>I agree with you. My sk can take down mobs that I can't even begin to think about with my bruiser. My sk can almost continually leach life where my bruiser has just that "one nice heal" but is totally at a loss for 90 secs. Don't get me wrong my bruiser is good, but not as good as my sk for downing those hard mobs. Feign death is nice to have but again it is just a get of jail free card that lets me know I failed the fight, but possibly survived.</p>

[imnotdisco]

<p><cite>Aull wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Thumatos wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Umm,  Dont want to start a flame or troll.  But why would bruisers be considered best.  I have both bruiser and sk.  SK can kill things bruiser cant handle.  at 35 was soloing in nek castle with sk.  got couple levs outa it.  i very much doubt my bruiser could do the same.  Does this disparity change as bruisers gain in levels?  I really do wanna know.</p></blockquote><p>I agree with you. My sk can take down mobs that I can't even begin to think about with my bruiser. My sk can almost continually leach life where my bruiser has just that "one nice heal" but is totally at a loss for 90 secs. Don't get me wrong my bruiser is good, but not as good as my sk for downing those hard mobs. Feign death is nice to have but again it is just a get of jail free card that lets me know I failed the fight, but possibly survived.</p></blockquote><p>Your comparison is like night and day, you are comparing a plate wearing class against a leather wearing class....</p><p>My statement is not meant to offend, just stating the obvious.</p>

[Thumatos]

<p>No, i compared a fighter to a fighter.   An avoidance tank to a plate tank.</p>

[Dorieon]

<p><cite>Thumatos wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Umm,  Dont want to start a flame or troll.  But why would bruisers be considered best.  I have both bruiser and sk.  SK can kill things bruiser cant handle.  at 35 was soloing in nek castle with sk.  got couple levs outa it.  i very much doubt my bruiser could do the same.  Does this disparity change as bruisers gain in levels?  I really do wanna know.</p></blockquote><p>Your statement makes it sound as if you haven't tried it on your bruiser yet. As someone that just had my bruiser pass that level I can honestly say you are wrong. Maybe you are just better on your SK than on your bruiser? I know that I suck on my zerk compared to my monk (thats why he has stayed 74 forever) but I love my bruiser alt. Maybe its playstyle?</p><p>Sk's are good soloer's though, I'll give ya that. And yeah bruisers really shine after Knockout.4 So maybe at lower tiers a SK might have an edge but I doubt it.</p>

[Thumatos]

<p>ok, i have since leveled my bruiser to same lvl as sk was in nek castle.  It is possible for a bruiser to solo but you end up in more danger.  an add or just some bad luch and you end up dieing far easier than sk.  Mabey knockout as a previous poster mentioned will make up a diff. but at lower levs, sk seems to be a tad bit safer.  therefore a better farmer .  But since im not farming and dont like being mt, ill be leveling up bruiser.</p>

[Sprin]

<p><cite>Thumatos wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Umm,  Dont want to start a flame or troll.  But why would bruisers be considered best.  I have both bruiser and sk.  SK can kill things bruiser cant handle.  at 35 was soloing in nek castle with sk.  got couple levs outa it.  i very much doubt my bruiser could do the same.  Does this disparity change as bruisers gain in levels?  I really do wanna know.</p></blockquote><p>6.5 second recast on 97 percent FD = pwn SK's plate armor and damage...... gives you unlimited tries at any mob and perfect placement of any mob... if you try a pull and get adds, readjust and try again... pull em again, try again, till you have it perfect... with CHI + Stone Deaf + Close Mind + Knockout + Heal Pots + Unglued Alchemist + 52 percent Heal + Fear + Mez + Shadow line Deflect all 12 seconds + shadow line (near)chain mit + Shadow line absorb huge physical attacks = Uberness all around..</p><p>You have to remember, CHI decreases reuse time on all spells by 50, so you pop chi and take a huge hit, pop your heal, 52 percent heal, with a 45 second recast or something like that...  everything else, you should be able to stay up that long and use it again... Pop CHI and all your combat arts, and heal, until CHI runs out, then "Cancel" your DOT attack on the mob, mez him, then fear him, which gives you enough time for other temps to come back up and CA's etc.. then go for round 2, another 52 percent heal and 3400 heal from Unglued + 700ish heal from POT and you have yourself ALOT of heals...</p><p>were talking about solo farming here... 6.5 second recast on a 97 percent FD is the key..... i solo'd my epic upate on bruiser in Deep Deep Chardok, getting the 3 library books, then getting past all the nameds, and opening the secret doors, etc etc etc....  </p>

[Pnaxx]

<p>The thing with Bruisers are, you can just flop your way through a zone to get to what you need to get to. You go defensive stance and should be able to get to where you need to. Now, killin named mobs in RoK and so on without raid gear ain't happening, but shinies, we do great.</p>

[Sprin]

<p><cite>Pnaxx wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The thing with Bruisers are, you can just flop your way through a zone to get to what you need to get to. You go defensive stance and should be able to get to where you need to. Now, killin named mobs in RoK and so on without raid gear ain't happening, but shinies, we do great.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah, by no means does bruiser = insta kill all named mobs in ROK...   masters, and insane gear + bruiser = the best farmer i think, of all the other classes... they may have a bit more DPS, or a bit more Heals, but bruiser has the "DO OVER" button as well as insane heals AND dps... which makes them perfect for it....  the shadow tree makes farming those nameds in ROK zones a lot easier... with the absorb large attacks and what not....   grind up the 200 AA and im sure you will find that survivability is pretty insane...   Shiny farmer = cant beat a bruiser bar none...</p>

[deathtoyou5]

<p>i use 2 bruisers to shiny hunt not including my 6 boxing group... my main bruiser has myth, nightmare wraps and full vp fabled gear(not the set gear cause most of it sucks) i have both of my bruisers self buffed around 84% avoid and can stand and take a pounding from named in places as mistmoore or ravenscale. Getting shiny's from even the hardest spots is easy as heck.And such places as kc can be easily farmed by a bruiser with a dirge in tow.The key for high avoid is i have 2 sets of gear dps fabled gear and tank fabled gear, if im shiny farming i use my aa mirror to switch to deflecting,parry, defense aa's while having my dps setup saved on the mirror.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>deathtoyou5 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>i use 2 bruisers to shiny hunt not including my 6 boxing group... my main bruiser has myth, nightmare wraps and full vp fabled gear(not the set gear cause most of it sucks) i have both of my bruisers self buffed around 84% avoid and can stand and take a pounding from named in places as mistmoore or ravenscale. Getting shiny's from even the hardest spots is easy as heck.And such places as kc can be easily farmed by a bruiser with a dirge in tow.The key for high avoid is i have 2 sets of gear dps fabled gear and tank fabled gear, if im shiny farming i use my aa mirror to switch to deflecting,parry, defense aa's while having my dps setup saved on the mirror.</p></blockquote><p>84% is pretty darn low for fabled equipment and a mythical.  I have that much with almost all legendary gear and not even my fabled epic. =/</p>