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Ama
08-01-2008, 12:50 PM
<p>I'm curious if this ability could be considered to be reworked for SKs.  This whole life save by killing your group is a bit ridiculous imho and should be changed around a bit.  We Shadowknights care about taking down our enemy at any cost since we are crusading zealots.  </p><p>How about turning blood letter into an impairment we can place on our enemies.  It works like the Assassin's "mark" ability, but has 3 triggers on it with each trigger activating 4-5 times for a total of 12-15 times.  It would be on 10-15% of attacks Bloodletter has a chance to cast Vampiric Siphon.  The vampiric siphon whenever the mob is damage 600-700 damage is done to the mob with 400-500 health being given back to the Shadowknight or 200-300 health being given back to the SKs group.  </p><p>Now if this thing hits for max end at 700 damage x4-5=2800-3500 dmg now 2800-3500x3 triggers=a measly 8.4k-10.5k damage.  If you add in a 1min30sec-2min reuse timer that's about as much damage as firing off 4-5 Pain Wraiths *Have crit hitted my pain wraith up to 2600dmg*.  It's perfectly balanced and adds a bit more utility to the shadowknights.  </p><p>Another thing that would be interesting to see is if we could place our reaving ability upon ourselves or another spell caster *Paladins Included*.  This way it becomes choice to augment a raid member helping to keep a caster alive through AoEs or are we selfish. </p>

Callim
08-01-2008, 07:51 PM
<p>God no, Bloodletter is the only bright side to SK tanking at this point in time...taking it away is not a good idea.  As it is even being the only bright side it has major issues, such as being both dispellable + always the first buff dispelled, being non-combat castable, and being restricted to 1 SK in a group or a raid.</p><p>We have plenty of damage spells, ca's, and abilities as it is.....they just suck!  So fix them, don't change something that at least partially works.</p>

troodon
08-01-2008, 08:02 PM
Bloodletter is awesome, it has never killed my group

Ama
08-02-2008, 05:24 PM
<cite>Tubby@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>God no, Bloodletter is the only bright side to SK tanking at this point in time...taking it away is not a good idea.  As it is even being the only bright side it has major issues, such as being both dispellable + always the first buff dispelled, being non-combat castable, and being restricted to 1 SK in a group or a raid.</p><p>We have plenty of damage spells, ca's, and abilities as it is.....they just suck!  So fix them, don't change something that at least partially works.</p></blockquote>Personally I want to see this changed so it could be a 2nd harmtouch for us where it damages the mob and gives us their health if we are about to die.  Fact it is non-combat castable makes it perfect for pulling a mob for inc.

Margen
08-03-2008, 10:31 AM
<p>Bloodletter is about the only good thing that happened to SKs this expansion.  </p><p>Just wish it was first not debuffable, that kind of ticks me off that a mob debuffs it and I have to wait after the fight to recast it.</p><p>Plus would like to see it have three charges vs the one it has now.  From what I heard thats what it had in beta, but the Guards screamed and got it nerfed.</p>

Wilde_Night
08-03-2008, 10:40 AM
The higher the Bloodletter spell, the less it will harm your group as well.  It will only have a chance to kill group members if it is in the Apprentice/Adept 1 area.  We have an awesome SK in our guild with an Adept 3 version and even on my warlock with 40% health it has yet to kill me when it goes off.

Pitt Hammerfi
08-03-2008, 11:14 AM
<p>It really doesnt do much dmg to a raid.</p><p>I would love to see it castable in combat, pipe dream i suppose.</p>

Margen
08-04-2008, 07:45 PM
<cite>Pitt Hammerfist wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It really doesnt do much dmg to a raid.</p><p>I would love to see it castable in combat, pipe dream i suppose.</p></blockquote>Yeah that would be awsome if that change was made.  I guess it would have to have a refresh timers like maybe 20 or 30 seconds to not make it too powerful (granted I would really like to be overpowered for once).