Betrayal Troub to Dirge

[shinjiku]

Hi there I play on nagafen and have a good 22 aa's on my 16 troubador.  If I exile from FP and go back I can choose to become a dirge right?  Will it keep all my aa's also?

[Pogopuschel]

If PvP is identical to PvE there, which I'm assuming that it is, "yes" is the answer to both questions <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Sabatini]

Yep you can choose either class when you're done with betrayal even if going back to the same town. You wont lose the AA points you earned but the trees will be reset so you'll have to make your choices all over again when you're finally a dirge.

[Liffy]

<p>I've done betrayl on pvp several times. Basically when you speak to the class trainer you get the option of being troub or dirge, all cas and spells are set to app1 regardless of choice. AAs racial traditions and such also get a free reset. </p><p>Though why anyone would want to swap troubbie for dirge on pvp is a mystery, unless you have a solid set melee heavy group waiting for you. I'm guessing you may need to adjust your gear a bit too, as dirges need decent str, where troubbie is all about int in pvp.</p>

[RanmaBoyType]

<p>Im biased for my PvE troub, but I was also in the understanding that PVP troubs > PvP dirge.</p><p>However dont let that hold you back, do what makes the game fun for you!</p>

[Pogopuschel]

<cite>Liffy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I've done betrayl on pvp several times. Basically when you speak to the class trainer you get the option of being troub or dirge, all cas and spells are set to app1 regardless of choice. AAs racial traditions and such also get a free reset.</p></blockquote>Minor correction: Spells/CAs that classes have in common will remain at the quality you had.

[peepshow]

<cite>Uyaem@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Liffy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I've done betrayl on pvp several times. Basically when you speak to the class trainer you get the option of being troub or dirge, all cas and spells are set to app1 regardless of choice. AAs racial traditions and such also get a free reset.</p></blockquote>Minor correction: Spells/CAs that classes have in common will remain at the quality you had.</blockquote>Maybe on PvP servers, but certenly not on the regular servers..I lost everything when I betrayed from Dirge to Troubadour..

[gatrm]

<p>Yeah....all spells/CAs are reset to app1 pre 50....post 50 you just lose em even if you for some reason betrayed from a troub to a troub and were just changing alignment. (PVE anyway.  I suppose it could be different on PVP, but don't see why that would be different)</p>

[Pogopuschel]

<cite>Scipius@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Uyaem@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Liffy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I've done betrayl on pvp several times. Basically when you speak to the class trainer you get the option of being troub or dirge, all cas and spells are set to app1 regardless of choice. AAs racial traditions and such also get a free reset.</p></blockquote>Minor correction: Spells/CAs that classes have in common will remain at the quality you had.</blockquote>Maybe on PvP servers, but certenly not on the regular servers..</blockquote><p>I was talking about PvE servers. You will keep anything that is a class CA/spell, you'll lose anything that is a subclass spell.</p><p>At least that's what happened with my Warden -> Fury and Defiler -> Mystic betrayals.</p>

[Liffy]

<cite>RanmaBoyType wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Im biased for my PvE troub, but I was also in the understanding that PVP troubs > PvP dirge.</p><p>However dont let that hold you back, do what makes the game fun for you!</p></blockquote>Quite true, Dirges have a much harder time in pvp. Troubabors definately have the best of it for solo pvp.

[draxhellion]

<cite>shinjiku wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hi there I play on nagafen and have a good 22 aa's on my 16 troubador.  If I exile from FP and go back I can choose to become a dirge right?  Will it keep all my aa's also?</blockquote><p>Yep. Lol I did that on naggy too back a year ago before i xfered to venekor. But i was a dirge and in my 60s somewhere i went from dirge to troub. I prefer dirge nice features that a troub has but i perosnally love the dige better at reverse kiting on a pvp server which hardly no bards do on either servers. </p><p>And i totally disagree with the above poster.  It realy depends on what classes yer going against and how you play yer bard plus the knowledge of knowing what you can do and what you cannot do on a solo run. </p>