Dps AA

[Rekluse]

I'm at level 28 and have 42 AA.  So far I've gone 4-8-8-8-2 Int, and 5-5 in the decaying line, with one point left over.  My question is: What line should I go next?  I solo a lot so Int line is a must, being on a PvP server, but am unsure if I should have put 8 points into Rabies (which seems to be great in pvp as the long duration helps with runners).  If I continue in the decaying line I'm putting points into spells that I can't yet use.  Basically I want to know how I can max my damage output.  Any thoughts are greatly appreciated...

[flowercivicsi]

<p>Depends on your fighing style... The Shaman lines all have their benefits, but I'm going to warn you I am a PvE defiler speaking.  If I was PvPing thought I would totally go Int for the Scourge, Rabies, and Spell Crit.  Next I would look at AGI as you will see the third down is melee crits and you can get 100% melee crit!  STA is also not a bad option as you can also get the shield bash (knocks them on their butt with a buckler) along with better shield use, double attack, and faster cures.  </p><p>You can play with AA profiles online at the Brasse... just google it.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p>

[Rekluse]

Thank you for telling me about Brasse...very helpful!

[Greggthegrmreapr]

I never played defiler at the lower levels.  Was mystic and betrayed at 70, but if you are wanting to DPS for PvP, get scourge and dog lines, along with 100% melee crits.  with the amount of interupts that are around with procs and gear, its hard to get spells off, having dog to proc wards and do damage is nice.

[Arielle Nightshade]

<p>I have a 70 defiler on venekor that I leveled to 70 pre-AA.  I'm leveling another one on AB WITH AA (is 64 now).   INT line is really helpful for DPS.  I'm finding with that spec'd i'm killing things about the same as on my Warden pre-AA as well...so it's not quite as painful as it could be.</p><p>spec'ing this way means you haven't chosen the best heal/ward spec's you can - but if you are out soloing or just doing instance content, you should be fine.  If you are a raider, it's the wrong spec to have lol.</p>

[Norrsken]

<cite>Arielle Nightshade wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><b>I have a 70 defiler on venekor that I leveled to 70 pre-AA.</b>  I'm leveling another one on AB WITH AA (is 64 now).   INT line is really helpful for DPS.  I'm finding with that spec'd i'm killing things about the same as on my Warden pre-AA as well...so it's not quite as painful as it could be.</p><p>spec'ing this way means you haven't chosen the best heal/ward spec's you can - but if you are out soloing or just doing instance content, you should be fine.  If you are a raider, it's the wrong spec to have lol.</p></blockquote>considering venekor came online AFTER the advent of AAs, that aint possible.

[Arielle Nightshade]

<p>No, Venekor was online before the advent of AA's.     But upon reflection, I suppose I didn't level <b>TO 70</b> without any AA.    I apologize for the inadvertent misstatement.  </p><p>The point of my remark, however, was that with INT spec'd its easier than a Warden with no AA.</p>

[flowercivicsi]

<p>Pls correct me if I am wrong, but thinking with a PvP mindset I would be reluctant to utilize the STR line due to the fact if you are fighting with your dog, and the person kills your dog you are sitting there with a fully wasted AA line since you will not have the time needed before you are dead to recast the dog to get the overall benefits of it?  Good thing is even if the dog is dead as a doornail you can still use rabies from the int line... However; you can't use leg bite unless the dog is alive and chomping.  So you would lose the haste, mini wards, ae prevention, and leg bite.</p><p>This was the whole purpose of thinking that STA or AGI would be a more beneficial line for a PvP driven defiler. </p><p>The dog may also get you into trouble when you are traveling with an invis/stealth effect since it does not affect the dog; so you may get some unwanted attention.  Personally I think I would avoid the dog for PvP.</p>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<cite>Alaocia@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Pls correct me if I am wrong, but thinking with a PvP mindset I would be reluctant to utilize the STR line due to the fact if you are fighting with your dog, and the person kills your dog you are sitting there with a fully wasted AA line since you will not have the time needed before you are dead to recast the dog to get the overall benefits of it?  Good thing is even if the dog is dead as a doornail you can still use rabies from the int line... However; you can't use leg bite unless the dog is alive and chomping.  So you would lose the haste, mini wards, ae prevention, and leg bite.</p><p>This was the whole purpose of thinking that STA or AGI would be a more beneficial line for a PvP driven defiler. </p><p>The dog may also get you into trouble when you are traveling with an invis/stealth effect since it does not affect the dog; so you may get some unwanted attention.  Personally I think I would avoid the dog for PvP.</p></blockquote><p>Agree completely, and wouldn't go down the STR line on my PvP defiler for these exact reasons.  All of them are spot on. (Pardon the pun).   </p><p>The only one you didn't mention is:  when you see an enemy player group, you have to do a quick scan to see what buffs, etc they have to see what class they are (with appearance slots it doesn't make it all that easy to tell at a glance).   Except if you have "BadDog, Ari's spirit Companion" sitting there wagging his tail - the enemy group didn't even have to work that hard to find and therefore target the healer (you)...to kill you first.</p><p>But otherwise exactly why I wouldnt' beef up the dog for PvP.   On my PvE defiler, I'm finding INT is a nice line to have gone down for a little bit of DPS, and WIS for Alacrity..which might make the difference in some pvp fights.  (My PvP Defiler is a 70 Dreadnaught, my PvE one is only level 66)</p>

[Greggthegrmreapr]

99% of the fights I was ever in as the shaman in a PvP group, Dog was completely ignored.  I just set him on guard me, and he runs around biting people that hit me with something.  Thats why I say STR line.  As Defiler AGI loses a bit of luster as its only auto attack getting the crits, and we generally don't hit that hard to begin with, STA really isn't worth it in my opinion as they nerffed the shield bash to a daze instead of stun/KB, and coagulate won't do much in PvP, as once you get that close to death everyone in the opposing group will focus to bring you down.