Thanks for adjusting tinker recipe drops

[Valdaglerion]

<p>Recently I have been fortunate enough to find both of the hover device recipes I was missing. When I found the Overclocked I thought my luck had really changed, I then checked the broker and found several to be listed now. This could only mean that Domino listened and adjusted the drop rate. So I piled on the time in killing and found the second one a few days later!</p><p>Thanks Domino, you rockers!</p>

[SilkenKidden]

<cite>Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Recently I have been fortunate enough to find both of the hover device recipes I was missing. When I found the Overclocked I thought my luck had really changed, I then checked the broker and found several to be listed now. This could only mean that Domino listened and adjusted the drop rate. So I piled on the time in killing and found the second one a few days later!</p><p>Thanks Domino, you rockers!</p></blockquote>Where did you find them?  Can a level 80 adventurer get the drops? Thanks.

[Daysy]

Don't think those who didn't know the drops would increase twenty-fold are so happy with the sudden change. From two copies in a year there are suddenly two pages of the recipe on the broker.

[Oh]

<cite>Daysy wrote:</cite><blockquote>Don't think those who didn't know the drops would increase twenty-fold are so happy with the sudden change. From two copies in a year there are suddenly two pages of the recipe on the broker.</blockquote>Ehh plat is ment to be spent. I paied like 6 plat for my reconstructor recipie, and about 10 plat for my call of the tinkerer recipie before the drop rate changes, now I see call of the tinkerer being closer to 1 plat for the recipie. Haven't looked for reconstructor to give a reference point. ANYWAYS my point of view i much prefer the drop rates to be higer on these things, I like a full recipie book just like I am sure there are alot of others that like a full book.

[Ahlana]

is there a good place to find the list of dropped recipes?

[Calthine]

Here's a list of *all* Tinker recipe books:  <a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/itemlist.html?name=&type=Knowledge&rarity=--+Not+Set+--&class=0&crafter=Tinkerer&skill=--+Not+Set+--&weapontype=--+Not+Set+--&levelmin=&levelmax=&mindmg=&maxdmg=&mindelay=&maxdelay=&mingldlvl=&maxgldlvl=&stat1_stat=--+Not+Set+--&stat1_value=&stat2_stat=--+Not+Set+--&stat2_value=&stat3_stat=--+Not+Set+--&stat3_value=&stat4_stat=--+Not+Set+--&stat4_value=&stat5_stat=--+Not+Set+--&stat5_value=&obsolete_ex=on&sort1_stat=--+Not+Set+--&sort1_wt=1&sort2_stat=--+Not+Set+--&sort2_wt=1&sort3_stat=--+Not+Set+--&sort3_wt=1&sort4_stat=--+Not+Set+--&sort4_wt=1&sort5_stat=--+Not+Set+--&sort5_wt=1&dosearch=1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/itemli...&dosearch=1</a>

[GrunEQ]

<span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: comic sans ms,sand;">Nice list Calthine, but it would help if you had a discription of what it actually makes, too.  I have no idea what several of these items are or do.  But it's a good start, and more info than I had before. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></span>

[Oh]

<cite>GrunEQ wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: comic sans ms,sand;">Nice list Calthine, but it would help if you had a discription of what it actually makes, too.  I have no idea what several of these items are or do.  But it's a good start, and more info than I had before. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></span></blockquote>Sticked at the top of this form is a post showing what every item is. Well I think it's every item, it's atleast the major ones... Anyways here is that link. <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=346347" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"><sticky linky></a>

[Elygron]

<p>A good place to try is ravasect island in tenebrous tangle. My Fae found the rep-bot-recipe while hunting down ravasects for legend and lore - a friend of mine found the hovering device-recipe there (lucky me  he had no tinkerer high enough so the recipe ended in the recipe-book of my tinkering gnome <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />&nbsp<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>The mobs were grey to both of us and the recipes dropped as body-loot.</p>

[Calthine]

<cite>GrunEQ wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="font-size: x-small;font-family: comic sans ms,sand;">Nice list Calthine, but it would help if you had a discription of what it actually makes, too.  I have no idea what several of these items are or do.  But it's a good start, and more info than I had before. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></span></blockquote>I completely agree!  What would help is if tinkerer-loving crafters everywhere would help us collect screenshots of all the blueprints, as the screenshots show the recipes just like recipe books do.  (like here:  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?eq2item=29546" target="_blank">http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/item.h...l?eq2item=29546</a>)  I swear, this is on my to-do list, somewhere in this pile of sticky notes....Folks can crop them and upload them right to the wikibase now (click the teeny yellow "Edit", then select the media tab),  or you can mail them to me at <a href="mailto:[email protected]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[email protected]</a>Another thing that helps is people running our log parser, <a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/wiki/Lucy2" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lucy2</a>, which collects drop info and will help us catalog exactly where the darn things come from!This has been a Public Service Announcement by EQII Allakhazam.  Please stay after for cookies and cocoa!

[LadyGalasya]

<p>forgot a few:</p><p>Gnort's Sparkling Hexamajig</p><p>Eznertob's Consecrated Contraption</p><p>At least these are 2 I have that were not on yer list <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Ahlana]

<cite>Elygron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The mobs were grey to both of us and the recipes dropped as body-loot.</p></blockquote>Is this accurate Blueprints can drop as body drops?

[Calthine]

<cite>LadyGalasya wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>forgot a few:</p><p>Gnort's Sparkling Hexamajig</p><p>Eznertob's Consecrated Contraption</p><p>At least these are 2 I have that were not on yer list <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /></p></blockquote>Gnort's was but Eznertob's Consecrated Contraption was new to me, thanks!

[Zehl_Ice-Fire]

Thanks from me also! It has been ridiculous that I had to go all this time with no mender recipe (there have been very few ever on Unrest's broker and they were 50 to 200p and just not worth it for me at the times, I had to have a friend make mine. I now have it for only 1p, and I got call of the tinkerer for 25g last night, cheapest it's been was 20p before. I have ALL the recipes now which is something I like to have on every TSer.

[Lilj]

<cite>Ahlana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Elygron wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The mobs were grey to both of us and the recipes dropped as body-loot.</p></blockquote>Is this accurate Blueprints can drop as body drops?</blockquote>I was wondering the same. I have always thought the rare Blueprints were chest-drop or that they used to be chest-drop only. Can more people confirm that rare blueprints are now body-drop? And thanks to Elygron for sharing that bit <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Wolphin]

I think they can be both now.. body or box.. I know I got the fishing pole the other day off a yah'lei in JW as a body drop.

[Wolphin]

I just got a Call of the Tinkerer off a Yha-lei patroller in Jarsath Wastes while doing a city writ as a body drop... so blueprints are dropping as body drops.. the next question would be, are the lower level ones dropping off mobs when they are grey or do we need to try and find someone willing to mentor for some of the ones that still seem rare or are still expensive on the broker...

[trovan2]

Both the sticky we have in our thread and the Allahkazam site dont have all the blueprints. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Skwor]

The drop rates are WAYYY to high now. Flooding a market is never a good thing. Blueprints are the big easy button now, feels like a "Staples" solution. .

[Valdaglerion]

<cite>Skwor wrote:</cite><blockquote>The drop rates are WAYYY to high now. Flooding a market is never a good thing. Blueprints are the big easy button now, feels like a "Staples" solution. . </blockquote><p>MOST of the tinker recipes are fluff and those that arent are so crippled they are "for emergency use only" items. The only one that is really useful on a consistent basis is the mender bot. The hovering device is pure fluff so having it mythical in drop rate where the only one on our broker in the last 18-20 months was listed at 500p, well that is probably a bit extreme dont you think?</p><p>After all, its a 45% mount with no stats and 10 use charges at a cost of around 7p to make. </p><p>On another note, I was not aware these were dropping as body loot now, I was mentored and found mine in a chest (treasured I believe). The body drops are more than likely the reason for the abundance on the brokers now.</p>

[Skwor]

<cite>Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Skwor wrote:</cite><blockquote>The drop rates are WAYYY to high now. Flooding a market is never a good thing. Blueprints are the big easy button now, feels like a "Staples" solution. . </blockquote><p>MOST of the tinker recipes are fluff and those that arent are so crippled they are "for emergency use only" items. The only one that is really useful on a consistent basis is the mender bot. The hovering device is pure fluff so having it mythical in drop rate where the only one on our broker in the last 18-20 months was listed at 500p, well that is probably a bit extreme dont you think?</p><p>After all, its a 45% mount with no stats and 10 use charges at a cost of around 7p to make. </p><p>On another note, I was not aware these were dropping as body loot now, I was mentored and found mine in a chest (treasured I believe). The body drops are more than likely the reason for the abundance on the brokers now.</p></blockquote><p>Overclocked ManastoneOverclocked LifestoneFD deviceGoggles to see both invis and stealthMendor BotEvac device (for those without evac)Ports to Commons and Antonica (for those without ports)</p><p>Just to name a few "Useful Items," I would strongly disagree with the statement that most tinkered items are useless. Considering just how rare masters still are in T8 I think the rarity of the higher level tinkering items were just fine. If the game keeps making all of this stuff common why bother with making it a skill and making recipes and blueprints. Just a waste of time. Just GIVE everyone all of those abilities and be done with it. What is the difference between paying 10 silver for the ability and just being giving it to start with? Just about no difference at all.<span style="color: #ff0000;"></span></p>

[Lilj]

<cite>Skwor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Skwor wrote:</cite><blockquote>The drop rates are WAYYY to high now. Flooding a market is never a good thing. Blueprints are the big easy button now, feels like a "Staples" solution. . </blockquote><p>MOST of the tinker recipes are fluff and those that arent are so crippled they are "for emergency use only" items. The only one that is really useful on a consistent basis is the mender bot. The hovering device is pure fluff so having it mythical in drop rate where the only one on our broker in the last 18-20 months was listed at 500p, well that is probably a bit extreme dont you think?</p><p>After all, its a 45% mount with no stats and 10 use charges at a cost of around 7p to make. </p><p>On another note, I was not aware these were dropping as body loot now, I was mentored and found mine in a chest (treasured I believe). The body drops are more than likely the reason for the abundance on the brokers now.</p></blockquote><p>Overclocked ManastoneOverclocked LifestoneFD deviceGoggles to see both invis and stealthMendor BotEvac device (for those without evac)Ports to Commons and Antonica (for those without ports)</p><p>Just to name a few "Useful Items," I would strongly disagree with the statement that most tinkered items are useless. Considering just how rare masters still are in T8 I think the rarity of the higher level tinkering items were just fine. If the game keeps making all of this stuff common why bother with making it a skill and making recipes and blueprints. Just a waste of time. Just GIVE everyone all of those abilities and be done with it. What is the difference between paying 10 silver for the ability and just being giving it to start with? Just about no difference at all.<span style="color: #ff0000;"></span></p></blockquote>Erm, perhaps I have misunderstood something, but this thread is about the rare tinker blueprints and not the common items, right? 4 of the 7 items you have mentioned in the above list are from the common books (manastone, lifestone, fd device and googles).Mender bot, evac device (?) and ports are among the rare items (what item gives the evac device, I assume it is rare, but I'm honestly not 100% sure if it is common or rare).I think Artemiz was thinking of the rare items, and lots of those are fluff items, Hovering device and luclin boots for instance. I don't think he meant tinker items in general.

[Skwor]

<cite>Liljna wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Skwor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Artemiz@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Skwor wrote:</cite><blockquote>The drop rates are WAYYY to high now. Flooding a market is never a good thing. Blueprints are the big easy button now, feels like a "Staples" solution. . </blockquote><p><span style="color: #99cc00;">MOST of the tinker recipes are fluff</span> and those that arent are so crippled they are "for emergency use only" items. The only one that is really useful on a consistent basis is the mender bot. The hovering device is pure fluff so having it mythical in drop rate where the only one on our broker in the last 18-20 months was listed at 500p, well that is probably a bit extreme dont you think?</p><p>After all, its a 45% mount with no stats and 10 use charges at a cost of around 7p to make. </p><p>On another note, I was not aware these were dropping as body loot now, I was mentored and found mine in a chest (treasured I believe). The body drops are more than likely the reason for the abundance on the brokers now.</p></blockquote><p>Overclocked ManastoneOverclocked LifestoneFD deviceGoggles to see both invis and stealthMendor BotEvac device (for those without evac)Ports to Commons and Antonica (for those without ports)</p><p>Just to name a few "Useful Items," I would strongly disagree with the statement that most tinkered items are useless. Considering just how rare masters still are in T8 I think the rarity of the higher level tinkering items were just fine. If the game keeps making all of this stuff common why bother with making it a skill and making recipes and blueprints. Just a waste of time. Just GIVE everyone all of those abilities and be done with it. What is the difference between paying 10 silver for the ability and just being giving it to start with? Just about no difference at all.<span style="color: #ff0000;"></span></p></blockquote><span style="color: #ff0000;">Erm, perhaps I have misunderstood something</span>, but this thread is about the rare tinker blueprints and not the common items, right? 4 of the 7 items you have mentioned in the above list are from the common books (manastone, lifestone, fd device and googles).Mender bot, evac device (?) and ports are among the rare items (what item gives the evac device, I assume it is rare, but I'm honestly not 100% sure if it is common or rare).I think Artemiz was thinking of the rare items, and lots of those are fluff items, Hovering device and luclin boots for instance. I don't think he meant tinker items in general.</blockquote>I would say yes you did. The OP of this post said in the opening post <p>"Recently I have been fortunate enough to find both of the hover device recipes I was missing. When I found the Overclocked I thought my luck had really changed, I then checked the broker and found several to be listed now. This could only mean that Domino listened and adjusted the drop rate. So I piled on the time in killing and found the second one a few days later!" </p><p>Note - nothing about rare, in fact these items are anything but rare now in fact I do not recall any of the blueprints being listed as anything more than common or uncommon, even at uncommon that is a far cry from rare.</p><p>Also the post heading only states "tinker recipes" again nothing about rare, Also note the light green where it is a general statement about tinker recipes being fluff, again nothing about rare.</p><p>I do not see how anyone could or would assume this conversation was about rare exclusivly and the post I responded to definatly does not make any such inferances. The Items I listed are hardly fluff and are indeed very useful and appropriate in response to anyone considering "most tinker recipes fluff.'</p>

[Ronin SpoilSpot]

<cite>Skwor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Liljna wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="color: #ff0000;">Erm, perhaps I have misunderstood something</span>, but this thread is about the rare tinker blueprints and not the common items, right? 4 of the 7 items you have mentioned in the above list are from the common books (manastone, lifestone, fd device and googles).Mender bot, evac device (?) and ports are among the rare items (what item gives the evac device, I assume it is rare, but I'm honestly not 100% sure if it is common or rare).I think Artemiz was thinking of the rare items, and lots of those are fluff items, Hovering device and luclin boots for instance. I don't think he meant tinker items in general.</blockquote>I would say yes you did. The OP of this post said in the opening post <p>"Recently I have been fortunate enough to find both of the hover device recipes I was missing. When I found the Overclocked I thought my luck had really changed, I then checked the broker and found several to be listed now. This could only mean that Domino listened and adjusted the drop rate. So I piled on the time in killing and found the second one a few days later!" </p><p>Note - nothing about rare, in fact these items are anything but rare now in fact I do not recall any of the blueprints being listed as anything more than common or uncommon, even at uncommon that is a far cry from rare.</p><p>Also the post heading only states "tinker recipes" again nothing about rare, Also note the light green where it is a general statement about tinker recipes being fluff, again nothing about rare.</p><p>I do not see how anyone could or would assume this conversation was about rare exclusivly and the post I responded to definatly does not make any such inferances. The Items I listed are hardly fluff and are indeed very useful and appropriate in response to anyone considering "most tinker recipes fluff.'</p></blockquote><p>Nope, I'm afraid it's not Liljna who as misunderstood anything here (or else, she's definitly not the only one).</p><p>This thread has, so far, been about dropped blueprint recipies - those that require rare ingredients and have also been called "rare" tinker recipes. Not just because they were a rare drop, but because they were for rare-based items. </p><p>The Overclocked Mana Stone is a common recipe, from a store bought recipe book. Nothing wrong with it, just not what this thread was about.</p><p>(And I too am happy with the new prices ... now I just need the rare ingredients to go down in price, esp. T8 loam, so that I can actually make the stuff I have bought blueprints for).</p><p>/RS</p>

[Skwor]

<cite>Ronin SpoilSpot wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Skwor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Liljna wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="color: #ff0000;">Erm, perhaps I have misunderstood something</span>, but this thread is about the rare tinker blueprints and not the common items, right? 4 of the 7 items you have mentioned in the above list are from the common books (manastone, lifestone, fd device and googles).Mender bot, evac device (?) and ports are among the rare items (what item gives the evac device, I assume it is rare, but I'm honestly not 100% sure if it is common or rare).I think Artemiz was thinking of the rare items, and lots of those are fluff items, Hovering device and luclin boots for instance. I don't think he meant tinker items in general.</blockquote>I would say yes you did. The OP of this post said in the opening post <p>"<span style="color: #ff00ff;">Recently I have been fortunate enough to find both of the hover device recipes I was missing</span>. When I found the Overclocked I thought my luck had really changed, I then checked the broker and found several to be listed now. This could only mean that Domino listened and adjusted the drop rate. So I piled on the time in killing and found the second one a few days later!" </p><p>Note - nothing about rare, in fact these items are anything but rare now in fact I do not recall any of the blueprints being listed as anything more than common or uncommon, even at uncommon that is a far cry from rare.</p><p>Also the post heading only states "tinker recipes" again nothing about rare, Also note the light green where it is a general statement about tinker recipes being fluff, again nothing about rare.</p><p>I do not see how anyone could or would assume this conversation was about rare exclusivly and the post I responded to definatly does not make any such inferances. The Items I listed are hardly fluff and are indeed very useful and appropriate in response to anyone considering "most tinker recipes fluff.'</p></blockquote><p>Nope, I'm afraid it's not Liljna who as misunderstood anything here (or else, she's definitly not the only one).</p><p>This thread has, so far, been about dropped blueprint recipies - those that require rare ingredients and have also been called "rare" tinker recipes. Not just because they were a rare drop, but because they were for rare-based items. </p><p>The Overclocked Mana Stone is a common recipe, from a store bought recipe book. Nothing wrong with it, just not what this thread was about.</p><p>(And I too am happy with the new prices ... now I just need the rare ingredients to go down in price, esp. T8 loam, so that I can actually make the stuff I have bought blueprints for).</p><p>/RS</p></blockquote><p>Just becuase a group develops a "group think" doesn't make the individual who sees something different wrong nor the group right. </p><p>Please note the part marked in pink. The OP who started this thread states in his opening he was fortunate enough to find BOTH hovering recipes becuase he was missing BOTH. Only one of those are rare yet the OP found it fortunate to find BOTH. Sure seems like this conversation was broader than just rares. The Gnomish Hovering Device requires no rare components, only the overclocked one does.</p><p>Also I would add that just like 4 of the 7 I mentioned are common, 3 of the 7 are rare. So 3 I mentioned easily shows that more than just the mender bot is useful which was my original point. I fail to see how listing the other 4 make that point invalid?</p>

[Spender]

<cite>Skwor wrote:</cite><blockquote>The drop rates are WAYYY to high now. Flooding a market is never a good thing. Blueprints are the big easy button now, feels like a "Staples" solution. . </blockquote>Sony is famous for this.  First the item is tagged as rare and is indeed hard to find.  Then people complain and the rare item is made common.  This is very frustrating and sad to see.  Why can there not be any scarcity in Everquest II?

[Valdaglerion]

<p>Well, let me clarify as the OP. I was talking about the drop rate of tinker recipes, hence the subject line. This was in no way a discussion of recipes that could be purchased from the merchants in BBM or Steamfont.</p><p>Both of the hover devices WERE extremely rare on our server at least as neither had been on the broker for 18 months (approximately). The evac device is called the "Gnomish Safety Recaller" and is/was one of the rarest dropped recipes in the game. The 4 rarest drops were the mender bot, the gnomish safety recaller and the 2 hover devices (normal and overclocked).</p><p>I never said the tinkered items were "useless", I said "most" were either Fluff or so crippled they were for emergency situations only.  And the listing of recipes given back as useful only served to highlight my comments if you look at the items which all have very long recast timers, charge limitations, etc. </p><p>For instance, the evac device has 20 charges total (can be recharged now), requires 3-5 vanadium to make and has a recast timer of 1 hour (7.5 times as long as other evacs. I feel, this qualifies as an emergency item only. And oh yes, it only evacs the caster, not your group.</p><p>The port devices (since those are dropped) - require 3-6 tynnonium clusters to make and have a 2 hour recast timer (druid portals to the Antonica and Commonland zones have what, a 1-3 minute recast, not 120 minutes), heck even the Call of [Insert city here] is 60 minutes, half the time. So again, I think this qualifies as a fluff or emergency situation only item.</p><p>Mender bot: I think this is a highly useful item, which is why I said "most" to begin with. Carry on.... </p>

[Mystfit]

Wow, not to be a fussy-butt, but there's surely a balance between what it was to what it is. I suppose I am somewhat begrudging of what I spent for recipes that are now a fraction ( tiny fraction!) of what I paid, but that's balanced off by the time I had them, so I don't mind it too much. But, wow.....I was really taken back at the price drop. Happened with the shards and chromatics....

[Frijoles]

<p>I want to chime in and report that dropped Blueprints now seem to be very plentiful on my server and, as a result, are much more reasonably priced on the broker these days. I also noticed that the 'Flickering Judicious Composite Gear' shows the correct level now - thank you for that also.</p><p>I still haven't seen the recipes 'Arctic <i>Flickering</i> Apparatus' and 'Arctic <i>Shimmering</i> Apparatus' though (and I've been searching for them for the better part of a year).</p>

[Skwor]

<cite>Drash wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I want to chime in and report that dropped Blueprints now seem to be very plentiful on my server and, as a result, are much more reasonably priced on the broker these days. I also noticed that the 'Flickering Judicious Composite Gear' shows the correct level now - thank you for that also.</p><p>I still haven't seen the recipes 'Arctic <i>Flickering</i> Apparatus' and 'Arctic <i>Shimmering</i> Apparatus' though (and I've been searching for them for the better part of a year).</p></blockquote>Reasonable being "garage sale prices?" call of the tinker now sales for less than 6 gold on my server. That is an incredibly useful 385 skilled blueprint going for less than 6 gold already. In another 2 weeks it will be selling for less than what the vendor will offer. So basically the tinker recipes will become vendor loot. That isn't a good place for drop rates on that level of crafting recipe. That isn't reasonable that is "no efort required at all" range.

[SilkenKidden]

<cite>Skwor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Drash wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I want to chime in and report that dropped Blueprints now seem to be very plentiful on my server and, as a result, are much more reasonably priced on the broker these days. I also noticed that the 'Flickering Judicious Composite Gear' shows the correct level now - thank you for that also.</p><p>I still haven't seen the recipes 'Arctic <i>Flickering</i> Apparatus' and 'Arctic <i>Shimmering</i> Apparatus' though (and I've been searching for them for the better part of a year).</p></blockquote>Reasonable being "garage sale prices?" call of the tinker now sales for less than 6 gold on my server. That is an incredibly useful 385 skilled blueprint going for less than 6 gold already. In another 2 weeks it will be selling for less than what the vendor will offer. So basically the tinker recipes will become vendor loot. That isn't a good place for drop rates on that level of crafting recipe. That isn't reasonable that is "no efort required at all" range.</blockquote><p>I don't see the problem here.  I'm glad the drop rates have increased.  I'm a max level tinker and it was very discouraging that I could not get the recipes to make good tinker items for myself.  I bought many of these recipes for very high prices and I thought it was unfair that the game made them so rare.  </p><p>I had done the work to become a tinker.  I expected it to be feasible that I could get the recipes as drops.  It wasn't feasible.  I would have had to mentor down and work Klakanon for months with almost no chance of ever getting one of the good recipes.  I did normal adventuring all the time I was leveling my tinker and have been a max adventurer since shortly after the max was raised each time in the past.  I have gone on many raids.  Yet, I never got a drop of one of these rare tinker recipes.   That was just plain bad game design and I'm glad it has been fixed. </p>