View Full Version : Warlock must Big improve.
navernewqueen
07-04-2008, 07:44 AM
<p>Warlock must big improve. </p><p>About all mage.Why warlock DPS is low?!other class wizzy is so high.</p><p>But warlock is so low than chanter.Chanter have mez,mana regen, good buff and etcWarlock can ONLY DPS. Other spell is not good(have not good debuff, regen, etc)</p><p>Warlock is sorcerer.Sorcerer is big nuker. but warlock is not.</p><p>*Single target ranking. (almost ROK mob is single)Wizzy, Conj, Nec, Coercer and Illy > WarlockalsoAssa, Swash, Ranger and Brig > Warlock so SAD. </p><p>As a result warlock is lowest DPS class.After 47LU. We need BIG improve. </p><p>[Sorry English isn't my no.1 ranguage.]p/s warlock mythical weapon need big improve.</p>
Araxes
07-10-2008, 09:01 PM
Yes, but, amazingly. I totally understood every word. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
Eveningdress
07-23-2008, 12:24 AM
<p>1 more...</p><p> About Acid storm.</p><p>Acid Storm burning cell...</p><p>not taken any damage?</p><p>but I saw Acid storm burning cell is killed by a blow</p><p> p.s more increase damage pls <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
Efrath
07-25-2008, 03:59 AM
Well, I kinda agree. I mean... All us warlocks CAN do is DPS... While wizzies has two evacs, can stifle, slow, root, mess and etc.Us warlocks can daze (USELESS ;_; ) and teleport targets away (This rocks tho in PVP but not as much in PVE).
Mudfur
07-25-2008, 12:12 PM
<cite>Efrath@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well, I kinda agree. I mean... All us warlocks CAN do is DPS... While wizzies has two evacs, can stifle, slow, root, mess and etc.Us warlocks can daze (USELESS ;_; ) and teleport targets away (This rocks tho in PVP but not as much in PVE).</blockquote>Go to the Wizard forums. Wizards are broken just like you. I know how you feel having leveled to 80 and spending some time as a warlock before betraying to wizard and it sucks.Correction on what wizzies have though:Wizzies have group evac and self-evac on same time ( 1 evac)Wizzies can't stifle, you might be referring to our detaunt/interupt spell which last 3secs and does not affect epic targetsWarlocks and Wizzies have rootWizard "mezz" mezzes us too so only really useful for emergenciesThere isn't any "etc" after that really....Warlocks have:INT/STR debufferHealth/Power debufferUtility is essentially the same on both Wizard/Warlocks = it sucksDPS on single targets is actually about the same between Wizard and Warlocks at this point (with warlock slightly lower). Sorcerer DPS in general sucks right now.Read up on wizard posts, our problems are largely shared.If you want to compare, compare yourself to scouts....assassin/ranger/swashbuckler/brigand have hate transfer/reducer, more health, more dps, and many more debuffs than sorcerers. Doesn't make much sense huh?May be if the devs actually played sorcerer more....
Darkdaedulus
07-26-2008, 03:59 AM
<p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Hello</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">I would just like to put my 2c into this thread. Yes, I agree with all the above posts. Sorcerers have gotten the short end of the stick with the past couple of LU's. The last update messed with our resist rates, actually not sure which (too lazy to check). Im also too lazy to post any parses. I can once I get home if needed, but Im pretty sure that others agree that say 3 out of 6 attempts to land any debuff or hostile spell (including Master Strikes) will result in a Resist. The lack of utility isnt that great at all. Yah so we can port to 4 spires, out of 7 active spires. Not complaining about it but druids can port to more places than we can and their ports are more useful than ours. But that is a Lore thing I guess. Propagation was a great AA for us and we were seeing a lot of love for it .. but it was nerfed and now raids could care less. </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">My warlock has been on the back burner since KOS days when they messed around with the stuns/stifles so that Epic mobs could be effected by them. They took the stun effect from Apoc and that was it for me. I havent deleted him and still level him to cap because I have this silly notion that things will change, but I think SK's have a better chance at getting more love than us soon.. Ooops I take that back. I Keeed I keeed </span></p><p><span style="color: #ff6600;">Im just saying that the class forums have been used to report current issues with classes for as long as I've been playing and Im not seeing any change for the better for this class in particular. Others say that the Warlock is not broken and that others should be quiet that way they dont make any attempt to fix us cuz what they will do is break us even more. I say it cant get any worse, or can it?</span></p>
TBH, i'm not sure what your complaining about guys. I know we ain't doing the solid 12ks and 10ks that asasians and swashis are doing but hell, i've hit 9k in tok. And 12k in PR, we are an ae dps class. Try avatar adds on flames the asasian can't touch me. Unfortunally we got the short end of the stick on group encounters, and the resist rates suck. But i'm still kicking butt and making wizards work for it. This happens every expansion, warlocks were godly in eof now not so much, the change in gu47 to our mythical should help us catch up. Hell if it works right i think i'll be beating the wizards on the regular. Were not broken though.Anilineps i know i spelled asasian wrong but it said i'm butting a bad word in
DerFunkBlaster
07-28-2008, 09:44 AM
I'm sorry to say this, but if you are a warlock and parsing as high as a chanter then either you suck or the chanter is really good. The warlock in my guild is able to put up very good numbers. You warlocks need to be grateful that they took a look at your mythical. The change coming up to it will be a 10% increase across the board if you have near 100% crit.
XFnarX
07-28-2008, 12:44 PM
<p>(o.O) I understood everything he said... but don't see "why" he's parsing so low. The main warlock (guild leader) of my guild parses in the top 5 zone wide (normally top 3) and is neck and neck with the wizard 99% of the time.</p><p>our Warlock parses 4,500 ~ 6,000 (ish) on singles and, if he doesn't explode, parse well over 9,000 on group encounters of 3 or more. Yes wizards can "spike" for much higher DPS on singles, but you have to compare zone wides... not single parses. As a warlock if you aren't breaking at least 3,500 almost constantly YOU are doing something wrong. It's not the class.</p>
Xedex
07-28-2008, 01:48 PM
if you are doing 8-10% of your guilds DPS then you are doing something right. You can't just measure numbers as each guild has different parse numbers.
kling3r
07-28-2008, 04:58 PM
<p>with parsing in the top 5 comes a price...</p><p>i also parse rather high, in an average dps raid guild... but my power drains to fast... gear or no gear, it costs way to much for me to keep up with the autoattack from scouts... i plead for an increase in our single DoT's damage to compensate for autoattack, and the many many resists...</p><p>calling the power buff utility is a ha ha funny...</p>
Uzzaden
07-28-2008, 07:04 PM
<p>You know I have kept quiet for a long time and I dont post alot .. I read I learn I absorb .. I even chnage thigns up and continuously try differnt things. I have been a warlock now for since the begining of the game.. I love the class and I think they are loads of fun.. BU I am frustrated like everyone else... I think you got two sectors of the warlock </p><p>1) Raiding warlock with Mythical (maybe what 5%) if we are lucky.. SOE says only 5% of the players woudl achieve this Weapon.. THis class parses very well and they are the top 3 of the parse list.</p><p>2.) Raiding Warlocks without mythical but have their epic. Much larger scale of people. This class does not parse nearly as well as everyone else.</p><p>Let me tell you were I am .. I am on the second type of warlock. I havemy Epic weapon. I am in a good raiding guild who is now flagged for VP but let me tell you I struggle so hard to parse well .. Yes our new mythicals will be nice and the additional 10% base damage </p><p>... OKOK yes there are so many factors spell ordeer, gear , group makeup even player compentancy... But Pre ROK I was always top 2 on my guild raids.. now I struggle... they need to fix us... it is crazy that we can do nothing but NUKE.. hell DEBUFFS WHAT DEBUFFS we get three debuffs and they pretty much worthless... Why cant SOE just come here and talk to their people and reassure us something is being done. just a little love would be nice...</p>
<cite>DerFunkBlaster wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm sorry to say this, but if you are a warlock and parsing as high as a chanter then either you suck or the chanter is really good. The warlock in my guild is able to put up very good numbers. You warlocks need to be grateful that they took a look at your mythical. The change coming up to it will be a 10% increase across the board if you have near 100% crit.</blockquote>Ok first off i want to adress this...THE WARLOCK IN YOUR GUILD IS THE BEST IN THE GAME, HE HAS THE BEST GEAR HE IS THE MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE AND FOR GOD SAKES HE IS THE ONE THAT HELPS ALL OF US OTHER WARLOCKS WHEN WE HAVE QUESTIONS *xede, pyrotess, i know you guys help too....but that said your a tool for posting this lol.Ok so what do we need to look at, well i did some messing around without my mythical and did some INSTANCE runs not raid runs, and i did PU not with guildies with mythicals. (i also put on around t2 quality or below gear) VOES topped it, duh huge groups, Maidens got pwned by an assasian and a monk, Chelsith, pwned again but this time by a wizard and a coercer *coercer did have his mythical though so who knows here. RE2 well that zone is designed for warlocks lol warlocks and swashbucklers *side note any swashi complaining that o my mythical sucks o i can't parse well go talk to koldsteel the guy who on the regular beats me on the PR group of 5 mob...and ran around doing some bs solo quests that i had in the bag. In this regard we are kinda broke. My parses in the more single target zones sucked o wait i forgot WE ARE AN AOE DPS CLASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To be honest the only thing they need to fix about us is our 1 group epic power hp drain curse horridness...i have never casted that spell since they got rid of nil crystals. Fixing propigations would be nice espically since the higher end gear has procs on it, but alas your talking about the 5% again so that don't need fixing....maybe our vp set armor, nope i'm actually happy with 3 pieces the hat, legs, and feet are actually amazing, i think i wore 1 piece of eof warlock stuff so we are fixed there, mage loot in general, ok there is something this expansion has sucked for mage loot tbh, i do love what they put in shard of hate but the drop rate on that stuff is terrible. In summary we are not broke, hell i was 4th the other day in TOK over the wizard and brigand, i got beat by ranger, swashi, and assasian, not in that order....Its all about masters, every piece of gear that will improve you and group set up..because if i get an illui with tc and a troub, its overo btw just want to put this out tooSHADOWKNIGHT, TEMPLAR, WARLOCK, ILLUI, TROUB, WIZARD (THAT DOES NOT CAST OR GIVES YOU A FAIR WARNING ON RAYS) IS THE BEST RAID GROUPok thanks for playingAniline
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