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orkim071
07-03-2008, 08:00 AM
reading these forums, it seems like everyone is only putting points into the rogue AA.  what about the brigand's AA?  i'm only level 29.  should i continue just putting points into rogue aa?

Dareena
07-03-2008, 11:48 AM
<p>To be honest, the Brigand specific AA trees aren't that impressive.  While they do have their moments, I've always felt that the Rogue AA trees had far more bang for their buck.  My advice would be to finish out two of your Rogue trees first.  Once that's done, move on to your Brigand trees.</p>

Anfauglith
07-03-2008, 11:51 AM
Brigand AAa aren't bad...but they can't be compared to how good rogue aas are...focus on your rogue tree first then go brigand...

Jida
07-03-2008, 11:55 AM
If your a pure soloer or just grinding up your way.. after sailwind and the + crit aa's in the str tree.. I'd suggest the leftmost brigand AA's that increase damage and healing on vitality poisons.

yzyh
07-03-2008, 04:46 PM
<p>If you solo a  lot max stam then agi, Then you could go in the brigand AA.</p><p>Personaly I am a fan of safehouse but you need 21AA to spec for it. So your bether going for something else then re-spec once you have 21spare AA to spend in the brigand line fi you do want it. Depend on your playstile.</p><p>but I will never tell to many time how much stam/ agi is superior to str/ agi for soloing. On grind str/agi kill a bit faster but on fight that count stam/agi is just bether. My test shown me a 10-15%dps loss for a 36% def gain + a bit of armor when I made the switch by lvl 38</p>

orkim071
07-03-2008, 06:31 PM
thanks everyone.  once again, eq2 community been helpful with no flames.  i decided to continue str/agi instead of respecing to stam because i have fun duel wielding.  i've maxed out the skill to increase crit %, but should i spend a point into the last str ability?  should i max anything in agi or just put enough points in each skill until i get sailwind?

duuf
07-03-2008, 07:42 PM
<cite>orkim071 wrote:</cite><blockquote>thanks everyone.  once again, eq2 community been helpful with no flames.  i decided to continue str/agi instead of respecing to stam because i have fun duel wielding.  i've maxed out the skill to increase crit %, but should i spend a point into the last str ability?  should i max anything in stam or just put enough points in each skill until i get sailwind?</blockquote>my 2 cp Str 4,4,4,8  don't need traumatic swipe until you start raidingAgi 4,8,4,8,2 maximum dps / maximum stun lock potentialInt 4,1 for boot daggerIf you are in need of defense/tanking Sta is definitely worth considering but for this brig stunlock is all the defense  normally needed.Duufus

Liffy
07-04-2008, 06:01 AM
I'll let you in on a little secret, the most underated rouge line for brigand is wisdom. Fencing spec, is very potent indeed, though most people dont see beyond the inability to dual wield. The DA is awesome, I found fencing line with agi tree 4 4 and the remaining points available into the strength tree made for a very good combo. I used this spec in defensive stance and it worked very well for me indeed.

Untruth
07-06-2008, 07:15 PM
<p>Has it actually been proven that wisdom single wield is worse than dual wield yet? Or do people just assume that now that RoK is out, everybody is raid geared out with 20-30% double attack base and always now runs with the ideal group set up with a bard and enchanter class?</p><p>Dual wield should mean you actually get less procs, because if both weapons swing 33% slower, that means they will always be 33% slower, even if you had 100% haste you are still not going to hit any kind of "attack speed cap" with 4.0 speed weapons. The offhand attack can't proc either, it will only proc on the mainhand swing.</p><p>I just have a difficult time believing strength is the "best" line after agility when theres only a single AA in there that actually does anything. Torporous and Blackguard's strike do similar, maybe even less damage than the scout [Quick Strike] line, the 10 second recast unconditional one that every scout has.</p>

Anfauglith
07-06-2008, 09:32 PM
The thing is right now, if you can't get over 100% DA then Wis line can be VERY good if you have 1 weapon way better than the other one.If you can easily get 2 weapons of roughly same quality or if you can get over 100%DA then wis will give you bearly any beneficts in term of dps.Actualy fencing has become pretty weak in term of dps since they nerfed it back in EoF.For the proc thingy you're 100% wrong...you'll get exactly the same number of proc with 1 sec delay or 5 sec delay...And the second hand CAN proc the effects that are on the second weapon...buff and such only proc from main hand...effects proc from the weapon they're on...Now torporous strike is useless unless you raid (or pvp) it's NOT a damaging spell...it's a very powerfull debuff.

Seiden
07-07-2008, 07:05 AM
<cite>Liffy wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'll let you in on a little secret, the most underated rouge line for brigand is wisdom. Fencing spec, is very potent indeed, though most people dont see beyond the inability to dual wield. The DA is awesome, I found fencing line with agi tree 4 4 and the remaining points available into the strength tree made for a very good combo. I used this spec in defensive stance and it worked very well for me indeed. </blockquote>The wis line was very popular during kos.my 2cp. Go str and agi, and then get whatever on the brigand tree, you can get 3 lines on the brig tree, it's silly

Lyasa
07-09-2008, 05:05 PM
wis line was tops in KoS, but fell out of favorable status once other ways of increasing double attack appeared. it's still viable for levelling, since you only need to find one good weapon, but once you're able to stack DA in increasing amounts, it loses effectiveness.