Any better since EoF?

[Vici]

Are SK in any sort of better state since RoK has been released and settled into? I have a 70 SK I played in EoF and it was pretty [Removed for Content]. I was in a raiding guild but all I ever did was hit things with a 2h weapon, do mediocre dps, and hit deathmarch. It wasn't fun in the least bit. I was rarely invited to groups to tank, sometimes to dps, but only for the instances. I'd never get invites to cmm, or unrest, I was just unwanted. Have things changed since then? I started leveling a guardian, something I wish I did from the start, but if SK are any better at this point then I'd consider just leveling from 70, since starting fresh is a bit daunting.First off, have any of our issues been fixed or even looked at? What are the top issues right now in grouping and raiding?Do you get invited to tank all the content people are pugging in RoK? Or are we still an unwanted class in groups?What are the main differences right now between a Guardian and a Shadowknight?Thanks for reading.

[Tiberuis]

<cite>Vicios wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Are SK in any sort of better state since RoK has been released and settled into? </p><p><b><i>Nope. </i></b></p><p>I have a 70 SK I played in EoF and it was pretty [I cannot control my vocabulary]. I was in a raiding guild but all I ever did was hit things with a 2h weapon, do mediocre dps, and hit deathmarch. It wasn't fun in the least bit. I was rarely invited to groups to tank, sometimes to dps, but only for the instances. I'd never get invites to cmm, or unrest, I was just unwanted. Have things changed since then? </p><p><b><i>Yes.  They are worse now.</i></b> </p><p>I started leveling a guardian, something I wish I did from the start, but if SK are any better at this point then I'd consider just leveling from 70, since starting fresh is a bit daunting.</p><p><b><i>No, things are not better, they are worse.</i></b>First off, have any of our issues been fixed or even looked at? What are the top issues right now in grouping and raiding?</p><p><b><i>The top issue for grouping and raiding is class balance.  SK's are dead last amoungst plate tank classes in almost every relevant ability category.</i></b></p><p><b><i>Top issue in grouping?  DPS (= Aggro control).</i></b></p><p><b><i>Top issue in raiding?  DPS (= Aggro Control).  Survivability is also a serious issue.</i></b></p><p>Do you get invited to tank all the content people are pugging in RoK? Or are we still an unwanted class in groups?</p><p><b><i>You will probably still get invited to tank groups.  But you will not be as powerful as the other plate tank classes, and they may get invited ahead of you due to the obvious class imbalance.</i></b></p><p>What are the main differences right now between a Guardian and a Shadowknight?</p><p><b><i>Guardian has better survivability.</i></b></p><p><b><i>Guardian has higher hit points.</i></b></p><p><b><i>Guardian has higher mitigation.</i></b></p><p><b><i>Guardian has better aggro control tools.</i></b></p><p><b><i>Guardian has WAY higher DPS.  Like, it's not even close.</i></b>Thanks for reading.</p><p>Thanks for posting <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p></blockquote>

[Hugsnkissums]

I wouldn't say things have gotten worse, but more along the lines have stayed the same. Things haven't changed for us on the grouping front...we're still not sought after for anything. It's not totally hopeless as an SK, but you have to be responsible for a lot of your own fun. If you want to do instance runs, chances are you'll be making the groups. RoK mobs hit way harder then old world content, and though armor has "upgraded" to match...chances are your INT is going to suffer more then anything else. So the choice is to be a so-so tank that can take a hit or two as long as you've got the necessary support, or be a terrible tank that does some really great magic damage but no one will group with because SK's are "tanks" in group scenarios. My SK is on the back burner for the moment, hoping something changes, but for now...my Dirge is my main.

[SugarGirl]

LOL... seems like every dirge I meet is a former plate tank

[Tdail]

on another note i have noticed the loot is worse from i have seen hard to find gear upgrades over the quested stuff and maybe 1 or 2 of the collection rewards. Also atm on the server i am on the most wanted class are mezzers and healers mezzer being more wanted than healers but both in heavy need.