Everquest 2 and Graphic Artifacts

[Zakane]

I stopped playing due to the game just being unplayable with my new computer.I decided to come back since they were giving two months of free play.Newest graphic driver's and all, yet with in an hour of play I get massive graphic Artifacts and my system freezes.Every other game I own works fine, Age of Conan works on max settings flawlessly.So whats the deal SoE why haven't you fixed the issues with nvidia 8800 series??-sigh-If anyone has any idea how to fix this give me a tell thanks!

[wullailhuit]

<cite>Zakane wrote:</cite><blockquote>I stopped playing due to the game just being unplayable with my new computer.I decided to come back since they were giving two months of free play.Newest graphic driver's and all, yet with in an hour of play I get massive graphic Artifacts and my system freezes.Every other game I own works fine, Age of Conan works on max settings flawlessly.So whats the deal SoE why haven't you fixed the issues with nvidia 8800 series??-sigh-If anyone has any idea how to fix this give me a tell thanks!</blockquote>Theres  an  Reuse vertix buffers option under graphics options that I understand helps with 8800's

[Zakane]

Helps with artifacting?The game runs smooth, If I could see my fps probably in 100's with out missing a beat.

[Miladi]

Some system specs might be helpful. I'd guess though that your video card is overheating. If it's an Nvidia card, run the NV Monitor program and open the bottom window that shows the scrolling graph. Play the game and see what your temps are when the problems start. If you're overclocking the card and not manually setting the speed of the cooling fan on the card, then it's going to overheat.

[Zakane]

8800 GT 512 Evga780li Evga Motherboard32 Bit Vista Home Premium 4 Gigs of Corasir ram Xm23.0ghz Intel Duo Core processor.Its not over-heating I've run rivtuner and it never goes abotu 50c full load, 40c idle. It runs Age of Conan  on Max-settings and Crysis on Very High for hours with no issues.Its not the card since I thought it was I RMA it a few months ago. Its not the drivers since I've used and update every driver known to man.Its EQ2 I know it xD they just need to fix there stuff.

[Wingrider01]

<cite>Zakane wrote:</cite><blockquote>I stopped playing due to the game just being unplayable with my new computer.I decided to come back since they were giving two months of free play.Newest graphic driver's and all, yet with in an hour of play I get massive graphic Artifacts and my system freezes.Every other game I own works fine, Age of Conan works on max settings flawlessly.So whats the deal SoE why haven't you fixed the issues with nvidia 8800 series??-sigh-If anyone has any idea how to fix this give me a tell thanks!</blockquote><p>1. F11 to see FPS - if you are running default UI, or you have a custom UI that has been updated to the current patch level</p><p>2. Newest graphic driver  not always equal to the best driver for the application, check the knowledge brase, properly remove the old driver according to the manufacturers specifications (or use a decent driver removal) and install the recommended driver</p><p>3. 99.9 percent of the time graphic artifacts forllowed by a complete system freeze in the current operating systems indicate something wrong at the hardware level or the kernel level of the OS. Applications do not run at the kernel level, so start looking at all your drivers, and your hardware - you mention the GPU temperature, 50C/122F to me is to hot for that small of an area, what is the temperature of the processor, memory and the PSU - these will contribute to system lockups</p><p>4. these issues can also be cause by some off-timed memory, have you run diagnostics on the memory? Use something like memtest86 on a iso boot disk</p><p>5. do you have the settings for Vista 32 for  > 3 gb memory?</p><p>6. what bios are you running on 780i motherboard, there have been reported issues on UUNET of system freezes with older bios</p><p>7. there is a stickied post here on the forum that shows what diagnostics reports to supply and the exact method of how to post them, this would be a good thing to start in the process to diagnose the problem</p>

[Zakane]

Trust me I went down this road before, the system memory works fine.Again it works fine on every other game - AoC,Crysis,Portal,TF2,CoD4 ect ect ect other then EQ2. Again I've tried ever driver people have stated to work well, still no go.I am really loosing faith.Another thing I found was.EQ2 was constantly running at 25-35 FPS sometime getting into the high 40's but mainly stayign around 20-30 range.While AoC,CoD runs from 40-60FPS easly

[Wingrider01]

<cite>Zakane wrote:</cite><blockquote>Trust me I went down this road before, the system memory works fine.Again it works fine on every other game - AoC,Crysis,Portal,TF2,CoD4 ect ect ect other then EQ2. Again I've tried ever driver people have stated to work well, still no go.I am really loosing faith.Another thing I found was.EQ2 was constantly running at 25-35 FPS sometime getting into the high 40's but mainly stayign around 20-30 range.While AoC,CoD runs from 40-60FPS easly</blockquote>Different graphics engines, you are comparing apples to oranges. Game runs fine here on every configuration I have.  Applications are NOT the root cause of a hard system lock up in them selves. This was true back in the days of Windows 3.1, 95 and 98. It is not true in the NT kernal era. A full system lockup is caused at the kernal level which indicates other issues with drivers or basic installation, or at the hardware level. Any application can uncover the fault in the configuration.

[Zakane]

Well I am out of ideas then I've uninstalled reinstalled, update, downgrade, RMA, re-seeded, tested, stretch, twisted anything and everything possable. Only game I have issues with is EQ2 which is not as graphically intents as other games. and 50-55c is cool if you look at what other 8800gt are running. So if its not my drivers thats how I came up with it having to be something EQ2 is doing.Memory is fine - done test with windows diagnostics CPU - is fine ran test with 3Dmarks and runs no hotter then 30-35c fullloadGPU - is fine 3Dmarks other games run fine no hotter then 56cDriver - update to latest no issuesA few months ago I RMA my graphics card and still get the issues with eq2 onlyChecked maker sure I have the right voltage going to gpu and system memory, all is finemade sure everything was seeded right it isWhat else can I do? I just don't know nothing I can do seems to work. So thats why I think EQ2 doesn't like something on my system.

[Wingrider01]

<cite>Zakane wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well I am out of ideas then I've uninstalled reinstalled, update, downgrade, RMA, re-seeded, tested, stretch, twisted anything and everything possable. Only game I have issues with is EQ2 which is not as graphically intents as other games. and 50-55c is cool if you look at what other 8800gt are running. So if its not my drivers thats how I came up with it having to be something EQ2 is doing.Memory is fine - done test with windows diagnostics CPU - is fine ran test with 3Dmarks and runs no hotter then 30-35c fullloadGPU - is fine 3Dmarks other games run fine no hotter then 56cDriver - update to latest no issuesA few months ago I RMA my graphics card and still get the issues with eq2 onlyChecked maker sure I have the right voltage going to gpu and system memory, all is finemade sure everything was seeded right it isWhat else can I do? I just don't know nothing I can do seems to work. So thats why I think EQ2 doesn't like something on my system.</blockquote><p>1. bios</p><p>2. chipset drivers</p><p>3. how did you check votages on what is being output by the psu? What PSU are you running?</p><p>Sorry 56c is to hot for my taste, get concerned when it exceeds 25c for everything in general in the case</p>

[Zakane]

I did my research, 60-75 is consider fairly normal for the 8800 series cards. So I am not concern either since my older card was easly doing 60c it was a 6800 GTI have not messed with motherboard bios since I hate having to do that.I can check my voltage through the BiosI am running a 800 watt psu, like I said 12v rail ect ect it runs fine on everything else. SO I am always worried about messing with certain thing afraid it may cause other things to go crazy.- EditThere is a recent bio update for my motherboard going give it a try and see if that solves the issues...

[Miladi]

<cite>Wingrider01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zakane wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well I am out of ideas then I've uninstalled reinstalled, update, downgrade, RMA, re-seeded, tested, stretch, twisted anything and everything possable. Only game I have issues with is EQ2 which is not as graphically intents as other games. and 50-55c is cool if you look at what other 8800gt are running. So if its not my drivers thats how I came up with it having to be something EQ2 is doing.Memory is fine - done test with windows diagnostics CPU - is fine ran test with 3Dmarks and runs no hotter then 30-35c fullloadGPU - is fine 3Dmarks other games run fine no hotter then 56cDriver - update to latest no issuesA few months ago I RMA my graphics card and still get the issues with eq2 onlyChecked maker sure I have the right voltage going to gpu and system memory, all is finemade sure everything was seeded right it isWhat else can I do? I just don't know nothing I can do seems to work. So thats why I think EQ2 doesn't like something on my system.</blockquote><p>1. bios</p><p>2. chipset drivers</p><p>3. how did you check votages on what is being output by the psu? What PSU are you running?</p><p>Sorry 56c is to hot for my taste, get concerned when it exceeds 25c for everything in general in the case</p></blockquote><p>56C is NOT too hot for an 8800 video card, mine normally runs around 50C at idle in Vista with the default GPU cooler fan speed. I can get it down to around 45c if I crank the fan to max (but who wants to listen to that noise all the time). At full load in 3DMark06 it gets to around 55-60c after running that for a while. I wouldn't be too concerned with his GPU temps if he's only running at 56c at full load.</p><p>That being said, the game doesn't lock up for me or give me artifacts when I'm playing, so its either hardware on your computer causing the issue, or a problem with something on your computer and the game not playing well together. Contrary to previous statements, Windows has issues with bsod and locking up, its not only due to kernal issues.</p>

[Zakane]

Sadly I've heard me Evga 780i motherboard doesn't like some games, EI WoW and Eq2 they released a bio patch but there some issues so yeah.I dunno if its that at all or if something eq2 just doesn't like in ym system.