Handcrafted for Spells?

[Liyle]

Is there a reason that player crafted Apr IV spells are Treasured instead of Handcrafted? This has been such an irritant in broker searches for so long it's hard to understand why it hasn't been changed by now.

[CoLD MeTaL]

<cite>Liyle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is there a reason that player crafted Apr IV spells are Treasured instead of Handcrafted? This has been such an irritant in broker searches for so long it's hard to understand why it hasn't been changed by now.</blockquote>Never seen a reason, they should be handcrafted (or labeled worthless since no one buys them anyway), but for muting put -app in the search bar to remove all apprentice spells helps tons.

[Calthine]

There was a reason given once for not changing them all over, but darned if I can remember.Of course, if they were handcrafted then NPC's couldn't sell AppII's.

[sliderhouserules]

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>Of course, if they were handcrafted then NPC's couldn't sell AppII's.</blockquote>Umm... why?

[Razlath]

<cite>CoLD MeTaL wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Liyle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is there a reason that player crafted Apr IV spells are Treasured instead of Handcrafted? This has been such an irritant in broker searches for so long it's hard to understand why it hasn't been changed by now.</blockquote>Never seen a reason, they should be handcrafted (or labeled worthless since no one buys them anyway), but for muting put -app in the search bar to remove all apprentice spells helps tons.</blockquote><p>OMG if this works I can't tell you how happy this will make me!  I will try it just as soon as I resurrect my computer as it died on Wednesday!</p><p>Thanks!</p>

[Noaani]

<cite>Calthine wrote:</cite><blockquote>There was a reason given once for not changing them all over, but darned if I can remember.Of course, if they were handcrafted then NPC's couldn't sell AppII's.</blockquote><p>Yep, this was the original reason, but it may be less valid now than it was then.</p><p>When the game came out, all non rare crafted was treasured and players could make less than app4 on a failed combine.</p><p>They were unable to make apprentace spells handcrafted because this would mean making all apprentace spells handcrafted, which is not supposed to happen on vender sold items.</p><p>However, not that players can only make app 4 spells, they may be able to make just them handcrafted, though that would mean that the better app spell is handcrafted (technically a lower desigation than treasured).</p>

[Spyderbite]

Heh.. seriously? These are transmutable?? Wow.. I'm cleaning all the app IV's off the broker today and getting to work! Woot!

[SilkenKidden]

<cite>Liyle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is there a reason that player crafted Apr IV spells are Treasured instead of Handcrafted? This has been such an irritant in broker searches for so long it's hard to understand why it hasn't been changed by now.</blockquote>Hey, if they are treasured, can I transmute them?  Don't think so<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Meirril]

<cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>Heh.. seriously? These are transmutable?? Wow.. I'm cleaning all the app IV's off the broker today and getting to work! Woot!</blockquote><p>As it says in every guide on Transmuting, Apprentice IV spells can not be transmuted. It is the most noted exception to the rule of treasured items being transmutable.</p><p>What in this conversation gave you the idea they could be transmuted?</p>

[Zehl_Ice-Fire]

When searching for transmutables when I was leveling I used to just make my search for all attunable and swap treasured, legendary etc. That worked perfect. And I a seperate search for adepts which I raised as I leveled.

[Spyderbite]

<cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><p>What in this conversation gave you the idea they could be transmuted?</p></blockquote>Meh.. I just saw that they were labeled "Treasured" and completely forgot about the gear only rule. I haven't had the patience or gold to level past 20 yet so I make no excuses for my ignorance. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Razlath]

<cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><p>What in this conversation gave you the idea they could be transmuted?</p></blockquote>Meh.. I just saw that they were labeled "Treasured" and completely forgot about the gear only rule. I haven't had the patience or gold to level past 20 yet so I make no excuses for my ignorance. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>Its actually not gear only.  Adept I spells are transmuteable as well.