New Guard...need advice.

[Xrazor]

<p>Want to group and raid...also want to use sword and tower shield.</p><p>How should I spec WA and GA?</p>

[Rahatmattata]

Dunno what WA and GA means.... butstr, sta, intblock, double attack, crippling, remaining points in rescue & reinforcement

[Xrazor]

<cite>Rahatmattata wrote:</cite><blockquote>Dunno what WA and GA means.... butstr, sta, intblock, double attack, crippling, remaining points in rescue & reinforcement</blockquote><p>WA is Warrior Achievements</p><p>GA is Guardian Achievements</p><p>I read 3 posts in the main forum after searching that said Guadian Achievements is were you want to put your points...far greater benefit then the Warrior Achievements such as Str STA  etc...so is that true then what line should I follow.</p>

[yzyh]

<cite>Xrazor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Want to group and raid...also want to use sword and tower shield.</p><p>How should I spec WA and GA?</p></blockquote><p>1) spec for soloing isnt the same spec as for raid or grouping. Use mirror achievement to keep both spec.</p><p>2) spec stam. its justt he way to go solo/ group/ raiding. Once you got that line maxed. Come back here.</p>

[Oo]

<cite>Xrazor wrote:</cite> <blockquote><p>WA is Warrior Achievements</p><p>GA is Guardian Achievements</p><p><u>I read 3 posts in the main forum after searching that said Guadian Achievements is were you want to put your points</u>...far greater benefit then the Warrior Achievements such as Str STA  etc...so is that true then what line should I follow.</p></blockquote>It's just the opposite.  More bang for your buck out of Warrior Tree. 

[Rahatmattata]

<cite>Xrazor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>I read 3 posts in the main forum after searching that said Guadian Achievements is were you want to put your points...far greater benefit then the Warrior Achievements such as Str STA  etc...so is that true then what line should I follow.</blockquote>KoS tree first<span class="postbody">str 4,4,8 to max melee critssta 4,4,8,8 to max double attack and riposteint 4,6,4,8,2 (or something similar) to max parry and give self haste and reduced reuse time across the board.or agi 4,4,8,6,2 to max frontal aoe attack and get reflexesThen you will still have 5 points or so to put wherever you want.EoF tree nextblock, double attack, crippling, remaining points in rescue & reinforcementNote that you can only put 50AA into each tree until level 70. Really doesn't matter much if you raid group or solo. Also, even if you take the stamina tree, you can still swap shields in combat, so bust out the tower shield if you feel the need.</span> <div align="right"> </div>

[Vlahkmaak]

<p>Are you playing on PVP or Blue server? If PVP STA line is a must have for solo survivability.  Tower shield +tower of stone can be macro'd for those intense damage spikes.  On blue servers you can get by just fine without the STA line UNTIL tier 8.  At that point the damage of scouts and casters is going to out pace you so fast that your going to ahve aggro issues even if you have reinforcement and rescue AA maxed: You will need the DPS boost of the STA double attk.  I run at 90-100% double attk and 45-56% crit (depending on resist gear actually worn at any given time) to help with DPS output.  Otherwise suggestions given above are good.  Warror tree is a must though. GA is nice but the actual damage you get outta STA line  is superior to anything on the GA tree to offset going GA befre WA.  </p><p>Other classes are different - on my assassin I wnet poison and life bleed first for the massive damage boost then down pred trees.  Bruisers could take drag line first too but guards will need WA line boosts like the INT haste early in the game especially if solo IMO.</p>

[Solkarr]

<p>This is the spec I tell any guardian who takes the time to chat with me, and they all tell me they love it after they test it...</p><p>The Warrior tree...</p><p>Str 4/4/8/5</p><p>Agi 4/4/8/6/2</p><p>Int 4/4/6/8/2</p><p>Then in Guardian tree its more complicated:</p><p>Intercede (3), Sentry (3), moderate (4), Rescue (5), Reinforcement (5), Infraction (5), mar (5), Trespass (3), Sever (5), Compression (5), Exact Strike (5), Double Attack (1), Decimate (5), Buffet (3), Plant (3), Stone Sphere (2), Unyielding Will (2), Tower of Stone (5)</p><p>... 1 more point somewhere, I will pick a spot when I get it (I only have 139 aa so far)</p><p>Then when the mobs are not particularly nasty you dual wield... YES, dual wield as a guardian... with the agi and int lines you have fine avoidance, close to that of a buckler, without burning 24AA for max buckler skills.  Just hotkey some tower shields near your ToS button.  Use the shields when you need ToS AND when you just need a shield.  Dual wielding is 100% DA... AND more, because you can get DA with your primary weapon also... so it is way more dps than buckler spec, so far better agro than buckler spec.... and lets you get both dragoons and slayer lines maxed... the 12% reuse speed rules, and dragoons is awsome for when the healers get behind the curve, or if you are soloing etc etc.</p><p>Before I got my mythical I used this set up for a very very long time, I was dual wield tanking RE2 (except slamhammer and epic, where I used a shield)...</p><p>try it out, and thank me later =)</p><p>Solkarr</p>

[Marez]

<p><cite>Solkarr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This is the spec I tell any guardian who takes the time to chat with me, and they all tell me they love it after they test it...</p><p>The Warrior tree...</p><p>Str 4/4/8/5</p><p>Agi 4/4/8/6/2</p><p>Int 4/4/6/8/2</p><p>Then in Guardian tree its more complicated:</p><p>Intercede (3), Sentry (3), moderate (4), Rescue (5), Reinforcement (5), Infraction (5), mar (5), Trespass (3), Sever (5), Compression (5), Exact Strike (5), Double Attack (1), Decimate (5), Buffet (3), Plant (3), Stone Sphere (2), Unyielding Will (2), Tower of Stone (5)</p><p>... 1 more point somewhere, I will pick a spot when I get it (I only have 139 aa so far)</p><p>Then when the mobs are not particularly nasty you dual wield... YES, dual wield as a guardian... with the agi and int lines you have fine avoidance, close to that of a buckler, without burning 24AA for max buckler skills.  Just hotkey some tower shields near your ToS button.  Use the shields when you need ToS AND when you just need a shield.  Dual wielding is 100% DA... AND more, because you can get DA with your primary weapon also... so it is way more dps than buckler spec, so far better agro than buckler spec.... and lets you get both dragoons and slayer lines maxed... the 12% reuse speed rules, and dragoons is awsome for when the healers get behind the curve, or if you are soloing etc etc.</p><p>Before I got my mythical I used this set up for a very very long time, I was dual wield tanking RE2 (except slamhammer and epic, where I used a shield)...</p><p>try it out, and thank me later =)</p><p>Solkarr</p></blockquote><p>I am trying to follow your advice, but it seems the names have changed since you (first) posted the guardian tree.</p><p>I can't find moderate, but think it might be whats now called Assuage . Others that seems not to be there anymore is Infraction, Mar, trespass and so on. Is it possible to post your advice again with the updated names in the tree, since I find it hard to see what is what there.</p><p>ThanksMarez</p>

[TheSpin]

<p><cite>Marez wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Solkarr wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This is the spec I tell any guardian who takes the time to chat with me, and they all tell me they love it after they test it...</p><p>The Warrior tree...</p><p>Str 4/4/8/5</p><p>Agi 4/4/8/6/2</p><p>Int 4/4/6/8/2</p><p>Then in Guardian tree its more complicated:</p><p>Intercede (3), Sentry (3), moderate (4), Rescue (5), Reinforcement (5), Infraction (5), mar (5), Trespass (3), Sever (5), Compression (5), Exact Strike (5), Double Attack (1), Decimate (5), Buffet (3), Plant (3), Stone Sphere (2), Unyielding Will (2), Tower of Stone (5)</p><p>... 1 more point somewhere, I will pick a spot when I get it (I only have 139 aa so far)</p><p>Then when the mobs are not particularly nasty you dual wield... YES, dual wield as a guardian... with the agi and int lines you have fine avoidance, close to that of a buckler, without burning 24AA for max buckler skills.  Just hotkey some tower shields near your ToS button.  Use the shields when you need ToS AND when you just need a shield.  Dual wielding is 100% DA... AND more, because you can get DA with your primary weapon also... so it is way more dps than buckler spec, so far better agro than buckler spec.... and lets you get both dragoons and slayer lines maxed... the 12% reuse speed rules, and dragoons is awsome for when the healers get behind the curve, or if you are soloing etc etc.</p><p>Before I got my mythical I used this set up for a very very long time, I was dual wield tanking RE2 (except slamhammer and epic, where I used a shield)...</p><p>try it out, and thank me later =)</p><p>Solkarr</p></blockquote><p>I am trying to follow your advice, but it seems the names have changed since you (first) posted the guardian tree.</p><p>I can't find moderate, but think it might be whats now called Assuage . Others that seems not to be there anymore is Infraction, Mar, trespass and so on. Is it possible to post your advice again with the updated names in the tree, since I find it hard to see what is what there.</p><p>ThanksMarez</p></blockquote><p>It's not that the names have changed, but moderate is the ability that you'll use at level 80, but as you level up you'll use lower level versions with other names.  check out <a href="http://www.eq2i.com">www.eq2i.com</a> and there will be a list of combat arts as well as the lower level and higher level version of each.</p>

[Marez]

<p>How stupid of me, didn't event think about those changes.</p><p>Thanks <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>