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Vooz
06-25-2008, 02:57 AM
<p>Ok so at lvl 20(21?) i got my harm touch and it's cool and usefull but i have a question... Will that spell ever evolve? Will it ever do mo DMG? or i'm stuck with 400-800 dmg and goodbye.</p><p>In eq1 i got that spell at lvl 40+ but it did like 5000 dmg... i could drop a lvl 50 mob like it was already dead...</p><p>So now i'm hoping that later on that spell will become more powerfull causse it's about our only edge...</p>

Callim
06-25-2008, 04:52 AM
<p>No the spell won't level up with you, it is a normal spell type and you get a new version every 14 levels.</p><p>And back in eq1 Sk's got harm touch at level 1, not 40+ <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Course in eq1 harm touch didn't suck...</p>

Vooz
06-25-2008, 10:45 AM
<p>ya it didn't suck at all in eq1 but you still got it at a high lvl since it was/is a AA </p><p>you coudl actualyl use it like at lvl 40+</p><p>atleast that was my case... </p>

stahlej
06-25-2008, 12:49 PM
HT must have been there on lvl 1 since you got pretty much all class defining abilities from the get go.I distinctly remember showing off my cool HT in LOIO... taking away 80% or so of a mobs hp which was blue at level 20ish.You might be thinking of something which was called Unholy Aura which boosted the HT for a brief period in EQ.In EQ2 it is awesome if it move 5% of a heroic mobs hp.

Airien
06-26-2008, 04:05 AM
<cite>Voozoo@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ok so at lvl 20(21?) i got my harm touch and it's cool and usefull but i have a question... Will that spell ever evolve?</p></blockquote>I did notice that down the SK AA line there is an ability that adds a sort of life tap to HT.

Lord Hackenslash
06-26-2008, 12:58 PM
<cite>Airien wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Voozoo@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ok so at lvl 20(21?) i got my harm touch and it's cool and usefull but i have a question... Will that spell ever evolve?</p></blockquote>I did notice that down the SK AA line there is an ability that adds a sort of life tap to HT. </blockquote><p>I Don't think any SK focuses on this skill. it's placement is a "bridge" to get to other more useful AA. I personally have 0 points in it as i feel addint a 1k heal to an ability that has a 15 minute refresh is a bit pointless. I personlly do not use this spell often anyhow as its more of an emergency aggro tool than DPS. at 80 the master does less than 9k</p>

Oakleafe
06-26-2008, 01:21 PM
<cite>Melina@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Airien wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Voozoo@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Ok so at lvl 20(21?) i got my harm touch and it's cool and usefull but i have a question... Will that spell ever evolve?</p></blockquote>I did notice that down the SK AA line there is an ability that adds a sort of life tap to HT. </blockquote><p>I Don't think any SK focuses on this skill. it's placement is a "bridge" to get to other more useful AA. I personally have 0 points in it as i feel addint a 1k heal to an ability that has a 15 minute refresh is a bit pointless. I personlly do not use this spell often anyhow as its more of an emergency aggro tool than DPS. at 80 the master does less than 9k</p></blockquote>I've spent points in the AA for this, as it's a useful emergency tool when solo - big damage and big heal = survival (or at least a better chance).  Will respec later probably, but in the 30s it's very handy in an emergency.

Soefje
06-26-2008, 01:24 PM
I agree, I have added points to the AA also.  Even at 80, it can be an "oh, crap", save your butt spell.  Finish off the mob and get a heal.My problem with this spell is that, compared to other classes big hitters, this is nothing.  I like calling this spell "Harm Tickle".<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

devil_hunter
06-26-2008, 02:27 PM
Harm Touch? what is it? is it something that we can eat?seriously, this spell is a joke as it got no improvement. the heal is a good idea but the benefit of the heal is again a joke, 1.5k heal, give me a break really <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2e207fad049d4d292f60607f80f05768.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />i use very seldom to never Harm Touch in raids as it isn´t boosting our dps or anything else.SK really needs a very close look at because the class is in his state right now very broken and underpowered against all the other plate tanks.SK´s dps is generally build on spell cast and from T7 to T8 the spell improvement is/was a joke.i don´t understand why they didn´t upgraded Deathmarch, again a really useless spell in T8 times, in a raid a SK can hit Deathmarch as much as he wants he won´t get the aggro from another person back, sry but this can´t be definetly right, god damnit, even a paladin has better aggro control than SK but we SK players keep saying that in almost every post we write but nothing happens and that makes me sad <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

Expired-Account
06-26-2008, 02:37 PM
<p>I too played a Sk in eq1 (Vallon Zek) and harmtouch, or deathtouch was amazing, it did essentially 75% of ones life. So in pvp all I had to do was 26% of someones life and DT, [Removed for Content]? Yes. However in group pvp, HT was great. HT, bam, healer is down, then everyone else falls. </p><p> Anyways, I was wanting to roll a SK here on eq2 after I lose intrest in my warden, since it was my first love on eq1. So even in pvp HT sucks?</p><p> I have been wanting to ask this and havent started a topic yet, so I might as well start here. In 1v1 pvp what classes can a SK beat, cannot beat? There were only a few classes that I couldn't [Removed for Content] in eq1. Just a quick list would be great. Thank you so much!</p>

devil_hunter
06-26-2008, 02:45 PM
i don´t play 1on1 pvp but i guess the answer would be like this:u can beat urself up the [Removed for Content] and all the other 23 classes can beat u up the [Removed for Content] too <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />in T8 Harm Touch does something like 8k-9k dmg and if u think that the other 23 classes can get disease resis up to 6k-7k than u can guess urself how far u get with Harm Touch.but like i said i never played 1on1 pvp so i might be wrong, would like to know from real pvp players what they say how good/bad the SK work on pvp servers.

Callim
06-26-2008, 02:52 PM
<p>For pvp harm touch is very nice...if your level 20.  Otherwise by the time you hit 80 its mostly useless.  My last group on group fight I had it resisted 3 times in a row, then just gave up on it.  The vast majority of fights I never even bother, and if by some stroke of luck it does land the average damage is less than a regular autoattack from most classes.</p><p>If you want a real harm touch skill at least pve wise, just roll a bruiser or monk for dev fist.</p>