Crashes at Loading Entity Resources

[Ares The Dark]

<p>As of last night, I have been unable to play EQ2. I have never had any problems in the past. I came home from work last night, only to find that the game crashes on "Loading Entity Resources"</p><p>Sometimes I am able to make it has far into the game as seeing my character on the screen, but it immediately crashes again. I logged into my account from another computer, and it work fine. This means that there is something wrong with my computer.</p><p>After trying several troubleshooting ideas, I went ahead and wiped my hard drive and loaded EQ2 from scratch.</p><p>1) Completely wiped hard drive and loaded the computer with Windows XP SP22) Loaded all of my drivers and verified that they are working correctly.3) Downloaded and install the EQ2 basic program from the website.4) Allowed the patcher to run over night and downloaded all of the EQ2 files again5) Tried to log in this morning only to crash at Loading Entity Resources, no matter what charcter I tried to play.</p><p>When I get home tonight after work, I plan to put my computer in the DMZ, reboot my router, remove and reseat my graphics card and RAM. If this does not work, I am convinced that there was something pushed out that is the cause of this problem.</p><p>Computer Specs:AMD Athlon^TM 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+, 2 gigs of ramNvidia 7900GS</p><p>Last but not least, just wanted to add that when the game starts to load, it crashes on "Loading Entity Resources" 9 times out of 10. I get no error message, nor is there any event created in my event logs. I have nothing loading on my system but the Windows XP SP2 and drivers. I have no custom UI loaded, no map programs nor anything else but the basic EQ2 files downloaded through the patcher.</p><p>Any help would be greatly appreciated.</p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p>Greetings,</p><p>I'd like to make sure that this isn't an account based issue.  If you could PM me your station name I can investigate that for you before we start changing your computer settings.</p>

[Ares The Dark]

<p>Thanks for the quick response Daniel.</p><p>Please note: I was able to login to my account on a friend's computer and it seemed to work fine.</p>

[Hordicant]

<p>What router and modem are you using at home?</p>

[Ares The Dark]

<p>Linksys cable modem and router.</p><p>I do not think this has anything to do with it. The game has been running fine for 2 years+, then all of the sudden it stops working. I understand the concept of opening up ports on the firewall quite well, however even when I placed my computer in the DMZ, I have the same issue.</p>

[Sokolov]

Ruhl, what area do you live in and what ISP do you use?  I have a similar issue and I am thinking it may be ISP/geographic.Does your friend use a different ISP?I live in California and use AT&T DSL.

[Ares The Dark]

In DC and use Comcast.

[Ares The Dark]

<p>Reseated my graphics card, and RAM. Restarted my cable modem and router.Here is what happened.</p><p> 1. The game booted up fine, loaded all of the entity resources, I actually got logged in and saw my character. 2 seconds later the screen froze and I was booted to windows desktop - no error message.</p><p>2. Tried to log in again, the game frooze at 36% on loading entity resources and booted me to the windows desktop - again, no error message.</p><p>Any suggestions?</p>

[Ares The Dark]

<p>Reloaded Video DriversReloaded DirectXDid a full file scan for EQ2</p><p>SAME PROBLEM!! </p><p>My guildmates see me log in for a second, then I get kicked.</p><p>The game is still freezing at "LOADING ENTIY RESOURCES"</p><p>Here is my IP: <b>68.34.23.210</b></p>

[scarletbegonias]

<p>im having the same issues here.. im in dc.. but use verizon fios... i exited my firewall entirely.. deleted my UI folder and reverted back to default.. i do use a an nvidia7900gs also.... my wifes computer is nearly identical to mine except shes using sp2 for xp and im using sp3.  i updated our video drivers... </p><p>i got to loading entity resource 46%. </p><p> my system has not changed at all and it worked fine monday morning but when i got home from work monday night i could not log in to eq2 through either computer on both my wife's and my own account.  something's fishy here.</p>

[Ares The Dark]

<p>After much research and trouble shooting, I am convinced that this issue is not related to to my computer, router, modem, dog, house, mouse, etc.</p><p>This problem is on Sony's side.</p><p>I loaded up BOOTCAMP on my apple, loaded Windows XP, and loaded EQ2 from scratch. Guess what? Crashes at same place.</p><p>There seems to be a bug on SOE's side and has nothing to do with your computer.</p><p>I will be on the phone with SOE bright and early in the morning.</p>

[scarletbegonias]

im just wondering how many more days they are going to push back on accepting that there is really a problem ...

[ganjookie]

<cite>Daavy@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote>im just wondering how many more days they are going to push back on accepting that there is really a problem ...</blockquote>When would they do this?  I and thousands of others can log in fine. There is probably some minor issue blocking you from connecting properly.  Like the guy that uninstalled his NFroceware stuff and poof it worked.  There isn't a way for SOE to know this intuitively.I wish ya the best in getting back in though and finding that one thing on your end.

[Ares The Dark]

<p>Check this Epic Thread out!</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=420015" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=420015</a></p><p>There are many people having the same problem.</p><p>It has NOTHING to do with my computer.</p><p>I have wiped hard drives, reloaded EQ2, tried different computers, and I even loaded EQ2 on my roommates laptop just to try it out.Everytime I crash while "Loading Entity Resources"</p>

[Ares The Dark]

<cite>Daavy@Befallen wrote:</cite> <blockquote><p>my system has not changed at all and it worked fine monday morning but when i got home from work monday night i could not log in to eq2 through either computer on both my wife's and my own account.  something's fishy here.</p></blockquote>This problem occured for me at exactly the same time. I raided Sunday night and everything was fine. I got home from work about 9:30 Monday night, was getting ready to log in to raid, when BAM!!, this bug shows up.

[scarletbegonias]

<p>well out of curiosity... i re installed SWG... and i cant get beyond the character select screen there either</p><p> edit:  i loaded up Vanguard and Pirates which do work....</p>

[Ares The Dark]

I think you might be on to something there.

[scarletbegonias]

<p>guess i gotta ask what all of us that suddenly have this problem have in common...</p><p> video cards?  NVIDIA 7900GS</p>

[Ares The Dark]

<p>If there was some problem with the 7900GS, it must cause problems on SOE side that lingers around.</p><p>As I have said, I have tried several different computers now, and the same problem still occurs.</p>

[Sokolov]

I have the same problem on 3 different machines, 2 run a 7800 GTX, and one is a Dell XPS laptop with a GeForce Go card.Incidentally, Vanguard works just fine.

[Pious]

Same problem here, but after a move to a different continent.  Never had a problem before. Now game crashes in the same spot every time. I have rechecked all the hardware after the move just to be sure.

[Sokolov]

Problem started here after moving too... I wonder...

[BigDawg]

Exact same problem .. ATI card .. I didn't move... I was actually logged in fine.. when the application closed with no error... now i have the same symptoms as the OP. Sony is doing work on their LON and Commerce servers today ..hmmmmm

[Eveningsong]

Yeah well ironically I can login and play LoN  fine, just not EQ2 on either Live or Test :/.

[Megrim27]

<p>Hey all,</p><p>I also had this exact same problem and couldn't figure out what the heck was causing it.  Finally found that it was a bad default gateway (I use Comcast), so I forced Comcast to give me a new gateway and voila, the problem was gone.  I don't know why a specific address would cause this issue, but it seems to be so.</p><p>Draelyn</p>

[TSR-TrevorG]

 I have been mailing this issue to my supervisor who takes it into meetings with developers on current issues for all games.  So this issue is being pushed forward, and I would love to have this issue resolved for you all.  On a side note I have also been forwarding the information on the stickied posts for DirectX errors and out of memory.  I wish I could duplicate the issue on my side bot hehre and home, but I have not been able too.has anybody else had success with removing the nForce network software or by using the following commands?<hr /><span class="name">hit start,then run and then type cmdat the dos prompt type "regsur32 softpub.dll" (no quotes)</span><hr /><span class="name"></span>

[BigDawg]

<p>Trevor,Today a few times... I logged in and when it went to load the zone, at the entities loading message. i got the error: Invalid Username or Password (QUIT).Keep in mind this is after I had logged in, selected my char and the zone was loading...Some kind of authentication problem with the zone servers ?</p><p>Edit - I got in once about 10 minutes ago, but when i logged out I have the same problem again....  I do have an open TT with SoE.</p>

[Hordicant]

<p>Every day someone else posts with the issue of having this problem. Either this, or boot to character select immediately after logging in, Crash to desktop with no error message after loading.</p><p>It seems that ip switches, and gateway changes eliviate the problem for alot of folks, but there's alot who still have the issue.</p><p>I would imagine Trevor, Daniel and the rest of the TSR team is probably getting super frustrated with it, because it cannot be duplicated at their end. If anything its proven to me over the past two weeks how inadequate Charter communications is at doing ANYTHING for their customers.</p><p>I hope they can fix it soon, cause at the end of July when my free time is up, I hope to actually be able to truly play and start paying, as it stands I'm not going to pay for a game I cannot fully play.</p><p>P.S. @ Trevor, get the tech team to run some tests using the Netgear CG814wg v2. This little bugger seems to be causing alot of issues for gamers. It would be good to know you guys could post a warning about it.</p>

[BigDawg]

I live in Canada, my traffic comes to Sony via TELUS then ATT. I can get to all the servers, including login and patch with no issues... I can't hit any zone servers... If this is a simple IP routing issue at my end I will be suprised... DLINK router btw..

[TSR-TrevorG]

Hordicant, have you updated that routers bios to the newest released version?  Maybe downgraded to an older version even?

[Hordicant]

<p>I have 5 of 7 possible characters stuck in this similar bug, all of mine were logged out or DCed while in a town. 1 in Qeynos, 3 in Gorowyn, 1 in Freeport and now he's stuck in neriak cause I connected long enough to cast gate and then DCed once again.</p><p> Playing this game without the use of cities is possible, but extremely unpleasant a concept in my mind.</p><p>I would vonlunteer to get on a long distance call with tech support and work with them if there was any possible way for them to watch the exchange bewteen my pc and their servers when I try to log these characters in. That's pretty much the only thing we haven't done. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Pious]

I'm getting the login rejected error sporadically now as well. This is only while loading entity resources in-game. Character select screen works fine.

[Sokolov]

<cite>TSR-TrevorG wrote:</cite><blockquote>has anybody else had success with removing the nForce network software or by using the following commands?<span class="name"></span></blockquote>One of the first things I do with a machine that has nForce network stuff installed is to get rid of it completely.  Thing is a piece of a crap as far as I am concerned, I've had nothing but problems associated with it.I mentioned earlier that Vanguard works for me, I just tried LoN and it also connects fine for me too (though I have a bug of a different nature there that doesn't prevent me from using the game).

[Undacova]

<p>Exact same problem as OP.</p><p>First problem that occured, like another poster, I received a message that said Invalid Username/Password. Giving me one option to [QUIT].  After this I tried to login several more times where the eq2 client would close while entering the world.  During one attempt I actually was able to type something in guild chat and see my toon before the client closed.</p><p>I have tried logging in on two different PCs.  One using XP the other on Vista.  I have also tried multiple accounts with no success.</p><p>I can get to the character select fine.</p><p>If anyone having these issues resolves it please be sure to post how.</p><p>Cheers,</p>

[TSR-TrevorG]

<cite>PiousII wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm getting the login rejected error sporadically now as well. This is only while loading entity resources in-game. Character select screen works fine. </blockquote>If your login is being rejected after updating and patching, please PM me your station name. It is too late for me to do anything tonight, but I will have it looked at tomorrow.

[Ares The Dark]

<p>It appears that I have fixed my problem.</p><p>I plugged my desktop directly into my Cable Modem and now it works fine.</p><p>However here are a few things I did to make sure it was my Linksys WRT54G Router causing the problems.</p><p>1. I gave my main desktop a static IP and forwarded every port that SOE reccomends in this guide - <a rel="nofollow" href="http://help.station.sony.com/cgi-bin/soe.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=19010&p_created=1209007412&p_sid=BQ6SOc7j&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=11851&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX 3Jvd19jbnQ9Niw2JnBfcHJvZHM9MCZwX2NhdHM9MCZwX3B2PSZ wX2N2PSZwX3NlYXJjaF90eXBlPWFuc3dlcnMuc2VhcmNoX25sJ nBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9d3J0NTRn&p_li=&p_topview=1" target="_blank">WRT54G</a>, game still crashes2. I placed my computer in the DMZ - game still crashes3. I tried every firmware version that Linksys has on thier website - game still crashes4. I forwared the ENTIRE range of ports to my desktop - game still crashes</p><p>I have no idea why my Linksys Wireless WRT54G router all of the sudden stopped working. No matter what I try now, I cannot use it and play EQ2 at the same time. At least I figured it out and by plugging directly into the cable modem I can play. I will be going to Best Buy tomorrow and picking up one of the wireless routers on this <a rel="nofollow" href="http://help.station.sony.com/cgi-bin/soe.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=11851" target="_blank">list</a>.</p><p>LINKSYS WRT54G DOES NOT LIKE EQ2 NOW!Strange, it worked fine for the last 3 years. However, this pass Monday it gave up.</p>

[Sokolov]

Glad your problem was resolved, Ruhl.  I wish that had fixed my problem =/Like everything, routers can die, and to be honest, they aren't made to be very sturdy from what I've found.

[Undacova]

Tried Connecting to the internet without my router.Problem still occurs for me <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Zeebia]

<p>I too am suffering the same problem, on all three of the computers, and the laptop, while trying to connect at home.  The strange thing, is that the laptop connects from my work IP, but will not get past the "loading entity" while connecting at home, which makes me think it's a router/modem issue.  Now, my wife and I haven't played EQ2 since before the latest release of additional content, but othr than the patching process, nothing at all has changed in any of our rigs.  I'll wait it out until Sony can catch up, and patch the patch <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Eveningsong]

Well, I'm not using a router at all, just connecting directly through a hub and my DSL modem.  However, I am also connecting from Canada through Telus... hopefully that isn't the common denominator heh.  Oddly enough, I started testing all my toons and was actually able to login to 2 of them... one lasted long enough for me to zone from NQ to Willow Wood before the game "poofed", the other just loaded into game in NQ long enough for me to see her and then the game froze/poofed.  Sigh.  Gonna wait until tomorrow to try again, as the TSRs were going to try to do something to my account to see if it fixes it.

[Hordicant]

My only problem with this being a router/connection issue on our ends is that TOO many people are having the issue from TOO many different connection/router/modem/ everything else we are using to connect.

[BigDawg]

Lets hope !!! This is a notification that US worlds will be updated at 7:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time on 06/26/2008. The estimated downtime will be 1 hour. - SOE Operations team

[BigDawg]

Downtime did not resolve the crashing... still happening... Dammit...

[Hordicant]

yeah, no change since small patch today. All characters still inside a city zone are bugged and I cannot get them to log in.

[BigDawg]

Anyone ... at the suggestion of the TSR's I ran drivercleaner and clean installed the video drivers etc.. Now they are blaming my power supply / video card... Apparently video cards can cause login problems now.... Frustrated after being down 2 days...

[BigDawg]

Update:Went out got a whole new computer.Installed from DVD and patched.No AV, only Windows Firewall - Everquest2 excluded... directly attached to the internetSame problem - either crashes at entity.. or lets me into zone for about 3 seconds .Now I am getting an error log though...ui.log says "error loading .xml"I am using the default UI.. freshly patched...Anyone got any ideas ?

[BigDawg]

<p>Running Everquest 2.exe June 25 Build 4949L - June 25 is about when my problems started...</p><p>What is everyone else running ?</p>

[BigDawg]

I have 2 computers with the same problems.. the only things common between them are..Radeon CardsSony EQ2 ClientLogitech G15 DriversThe InternetOne is XP, the other VistaAnyone got any ideas ?  I have been down since the 25th.. and tech support just keeps saying "we are busy, wait" ...

[BigDawg]

Got an odd C++ error today from the client on the vista box... Anyone know if there is a way to turn an more advanced logging on for the everquest2.ext ? i.e. flags or arguments ? I am still seeing no error logs other than ui.log and the "cannot load .xml"

[Pious]

I've noticed that I can log in to the game fine, and to the message boards. Logging in to the support site I get an invalid password message and have to sort of go around it. Not sure if it's related to the login rejected while zoning but seems an odd coincidence.

[TSR-TrevorG]

The game and station.com do use the same password, but the issues affecting game accounts do not affect station.com logins.  I have double checked your account and the front end is still open.It can be resolved by deleting cache and temp internet files, and the closing and reopening the browser.  Sometimes it asks for an email and password, which can be resolved the same way as well.

[Hammerdra]

<p align="left">Same issue on and off for some time now I thought I was the only one.</p><p align="left"><b>Only difference is I am locking up and crashing at" loading UI screen"consistantly.</b></p><p align="left"><b>And to top it all off  it actually <span style="color: #cc0000;">kills my connection to my network at home on both PC's</span></b></p><p align="left">I have to power cycle my modem and router to get a connection back to the internet. </p><p align="left">AT&T reads a script and cannot help me or will not.</p><p align="left">My UI log also only ever has one line for  Could not load.xml</p><p align="left">And I was scouring these forums for weeks looking for something similar.</p><p align="left">I kept getting delete custom UI's or it is my hardware. Lets cut the crap it is something in eq2.</p><p align="left">I have tried everything I know how to do without getting twitchy. I run VG just fine(crazy huh?), I run AoC just fine.</p><p align="left"> I got rid of all custom UI's,deleted all my toons .ini files  and even the default.ini.</p><p align="left">Reloaded the game. it asked me which defaults I wanted.</p><p align="left"> I choseeq2 default, loaded updates just fine. Went to loading screens, <b><span style="font-size: x-small;color: #ffff00;">BANG</span></b> ,same crash , same internet disconnect.</p><p align="left">Now 7-1-08- thru 7- 5- 08 same problem.</p><p align="left">I have been here since beta. Just recently started having this problem over the last 3 months.</p><p align="left">Windows Vista 64, EVGA 780i, Q6600@ 2.4, 2x 8800 gt sc, 8 gigs ocz ddr2 800, 3 WD 320 hd RAID0, Antec TPQ 850 PS.</p><p align="left">AT&T/ sbc yahoo DSL service, Linksys BEFSR41  ver 4.1 Router firmware updated. All EQ2 ports open.</p><p align="left">I have to go thru alot of stuff on two PC's to run the tracert in DOS.  If I try it with router disconeected I cannot get  the PC with eq2 installed to connect.</p><p align="left">If I run the dos program with the router connected I cannot get it to work if I use the entire command with >>eq2info.txt added to the line. "access denied"</p><p align="left">If I run it without the eq2info.txt  I can get it but that would be alot to write down.</p><p align="left">Why the hell are we doing all the troubleshooting??</p><p align="left">Kinda fels like beta testing Vanguard all over again and paying for it too.</p><p align="left">Last but not least I sent you Trev a PM with my  station name.</p><p align="left">form another post but same description.</p>

[ultraspaz2004]

Same problem here.I'm using: Windows XP Prof. SP2nVidia 7950GT2GB RAM200GB HDD (partitioned as well)All drivers etc are up to date.I connect to the internet thru a wireless adapter to my modem which is downstairs and a few metres from my PC.Only started happening a couple days ago. It used to randomly decide when I could get past 'Loading Resources' or 'Creating Entities', but now it has been stuck for 2 days on both of my characters, who are both on the Antonia Bayle server.Come on SOE, we want to play ^^

[Allora]

<p>I had this problem recently and the cause was a windows update.</p><p>I'd been playing with no problems at all and one morning decided to check my windows updates. I installed an optional update to my wireless connection. then logged into the game. I played for a few minutes then tried to zone and the computer froze. Every time I tried to log into the game after that it froze at the 'loading ui resources' screen. It froze the whole computer, not just the game. Luckily I had a restore point from before the update, restored the computer and no more problems.</p><p> This is the update I installed (and then removed):</p><p>Realtek - Network - Realtek RTL8168B/8111B Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.0)</p><p>Update type: Optional</p><p>Realtek Network software update released in May, 2008</p><p>The date on the update is May 25. I purchased my computer at the end of May so I'm not sure if that's the date microsoft released the update or the date windows was installed on my computer by the store. I'm using Vista 64, hope this helps at least some people.</p>

[Charism II]

<p>I have encountered the same problem........ and I have found 2 more threads with players having the same issue too, here are the other threads,</p><p> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?&topic_id=423101" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=423101</a></p><p> <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=420015" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=420015</a></p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=422102" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=422102</a></p><p>I am having the same problem when I finally have time to play after 2 weeks of no-life work, thinking myself that I can have some fun but NO, instead it's nightmare !!!!!  <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2e207fad049d4d292f60607f80f05768.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>I found out the crashing problem after the 1st patching, I tried 4-5 times more, same issue, then I updated my EQMap & ProfitUI auto updator, then reloaded but same  crashes.  I searched for forums on this topic (similar ones b4 finding this one), they all suggested to remove or remove/re-install the EQMap/custom UI and I did, same results.  I found this thread and followed the suggestions and deleted all the folder & files and ran the patch as instructed hoping that will work finally but I was let down AGAIN .......</p><p>FYI, I have patched my other pc and same crashes happened, I have already spent the whole Saturday trying.............</p><p>Please help me !!!!!</p><p>For those who HAD the same problem and got it fixed, please please share the solution with us here, we are hopelessly TRAPED !!!!!  <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[dlooshnl]

<p>was there ever a fix for this.. my cpu seems to be doing it now....id play for a day or so then it would start doing this....i deleted the ui folder a couple of times and it worked and i could get back in then it wouldnt let me back in at all.. i did a complete new install in a new folder...and it worked fine..until i tried to login again then... same problem crashing at loading entitiy resources...what gives?</p>

[Humblekatz]

<p>Hello  Everyone, I am new to forums so please be gentle with me.</p><p>Looking at the dates on these posts I see that this was a major issue a few years ago and that it never got solved for some people. So I will post this in the hope that there is/was a fix that  I dont know about.</p><p>I am playing in UK connected via BT home hub using a DFI lan party based system with a 1 gig cpu oc/ 1.4Ghz and 2 gb physical ram. Radeon HD 1024 mb Graphics Win 7 RC1</p><p>I have been playing EQ2 for about three months and the zone issue is an ongoing one for me also. I note from other people who have posted here  that I have done the same things to try try to fix the issues and I am inclined to agree that this is not an issue with my pc/os or the amount of memory I have.</p><p>This crash takes alsmost the exact form as other people have posted: game gets as far as ""waiting for entities"" at the load screen  and will not go any further-although it is now getting beyond that point to "" loading UI resources.""  If I delete cache and log files and do a full scan I can SOMETIMES rescue a toon from limbo but this issue has severe implcations for actually plyaing the game. Due to its sheer intermittent nature, one is never sure when it will happen again. I lost three toons in about an hour a week ago.</p><p>Getting into guild halls is also a nighmare at times which prevents buying and selling equipment on the guild broker very difficult so getting enough cion to keep upgrading gear is becmming a big problem now.</p><p>One answer I have had is that my PC does not have enough memory to load all the stuff there but then if that was to case, would this not stop me getting in there EVERY time i tried?</p><p> It almost always happens when I agree to mentor or group with someone as well. It would also appear that other folks here are getting stuck at Thundering Steppes as well. I have been able to actually re-produce this crash twice in one day on the same toon but TS has always been a "Crashzone" for me since I started playing. Maj Dul is another no-no in terms of no zone areas for my toons and the Peat Bog in Netttleville almost always crashes in one way or another so I dont go there any more. Troughout all these crashes the client is still running. I can alt enter out of full screen, browse and use other applications with no problems at all. Having looked at the memory usage in task manager, physical ram usage for EQ2 cleint os oly at 60 ish per cent. I am not receiving any error messages from windows or EQ2 client when it happens. The game just sits there at the load screen and used to kick me back to toon select but this does not happpen any more-it just stoops loading until I shut down the client and re-log.</p><p>I too had an issue at log in-the logging in scroll would just go around endlessly until i click stop and then tried again. When I did that, I would get  in in aseconds. After a NIGHMARE [Removed for Content] SL that issue at least seems to befixed the only way to do it was re download and install station launcher</p><p>If there are any SOE tech reps still viewing this forum I would be very interested to hear your opinions on this one. I know I have tried EVERYTHING from my side including using a different router that I borrowed from a friend to see if that would fix the issue with no success.</p><p>Thanks folks, hope we can find the answer to this one.</p>