Gigglegibber Goblin Game Suggestions

[Amcaze]

Was searching through some of the forums and really couldnt find anything current about suggestions on this area of the game. I did feedbacks on this topic many many times in the past and wondering if any Dev's could give me some answers as to why this part of the game hasnt evolved. I understand its not that important, but I dont think it would take much time and effort to really give this area some spark. As it is now, on my server, the jack pot is bloated... very bloated. Im sure its the same on other servers as well.Would really like to hear from a Dev if there is any chance this area of the game could see some improvement.<hr />Gigglegibber Goblin Gamblin' Game - FeedbackAs it is now, only the Match 6 takes away from the Jack Pot. I think this is wrong. I have given /feedbacks in the past about this and I still feel strongly about this. As it stands now, on Kith server, the Jackpot is 3800 Platinum. Outragous. Something needs to change.My suggestion is this:Match 6 - %100 of Jack PotMatch 5 - %0.5 (half percent) of Jack PotMatch 4 - 10-20 Gold (from Jack Pot) This is the most important match... this will keep the JP from getting out of handMatch 3 - 1 goldMatch 2 - 10 silverIn general my suggestion doesnt have to be set in stone, but im trying to give you an idea on what to do to keep the JP from getting out of hand. As it is now, you just dont feel like your winning. You need to give the player a sense of hope. There is no hope in the feeling of the game now.Also, an idea to take away from the JP could be a daily pick 3,4,5 that could take away from the total JP and a weekly Lotto that would do the same but higher rewards.Such as: -The player would buy a 3,4,5 daily lotto (or weekely ticket) from the "Infoz" book beside the <Lottery Tickets> sales creature.-Only one entry per lotto per Player Char (can only play one Pick 3, Pick 4, ... Weekly, etc)-real time would be used. All entrys must be in by 12 EST or Central... what ever... Lotto numbers rolled shortly after.- Winners would be mailed their money and taken from the <Server Goblen Lottery Jack Pot> that everyone could access from the "Infoz" book.-the amount of winnings from a Pick 3,4,5,weekly,etc would take a % from the overall JP.I think this area of the game could be vastly improved with some time and effrort put in from your side.This is just a quick and rough run through on ideas that I think could improve this area of the game. Would like to know if anyone else feels the same.

[Spyderbite]

<cite>Amcaze wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think this area of the game could be vastly improved with some time and effrort put in from your side.</blockquote>I agree. However... I think there was some mention that due to issues with people selling plat outside of the game, from non-SE servers, there was a question about the legality as it might be perceived as online gambling. The reason being that although it is against the TOS to sell plat except on the SE servers, it can still be converted to RL cash. Same reason gambling was taken out of Second Life last year.So, until their legal rats figure out a way around that, I don't think they're going to be touching the gambler for now. Hopefully something is figured out though eventually.On a brighter note... I did win 2 gold today! Usually I just use the goblin to dump any change I have on me before I zone in to Zek or EL so I don't donate it to a Q.. (I'm on PvP) <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Amaran]

I won 2g once, when I was on a trial account and couldn't spend it on anything. XDI love gambling games, so I too would really like to see this improved. Or how about having some other sort of prizes? Not just money, like tickets to redeem at a Gigglegibber goblin merchant? 10 tickets for a Gigglegibber plush for your house! (Ah, I wish!) These prizes could even be no-trade if that would solve economy issues. Would just be fun to have a moneysink with a decent chance of some sort of reward, even if it is just fluff.

[Calris]

<cite>Amcaze wrote:</cite><blockquote>As it is now, on my server, the jack pot is bloated... very bloated. Im sure its the same on other servers as well.</blockquote>And why is this a problem. Encourages more people to sink money into it, which is what it's there for.

[Tainae]

<p>on mistmoore server, last I saw, the jackpot was over 2.3k plat - Last Big Winner: NONE</p><p> Noone has ever won it on MM server heh</p>

[Amcaze]

<cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>I agree. However... I think there was some mention that due to issues with people selling plat outside of the game, from non-SE servers, there was a question about the legality as it might be perceived as online gambling. The reason being that although it is against the TOS to sell plat except on the SE servers, it can still be converted to RL cash. Same reason gambling was taken out of Second Life last year.</blockquote>The Gigglegibber is up, so this shouldnt be an issue. If they are going to keep this aspect of the game up and running, then I feel they should improve the game play of the Gigglegibber lottery system. Our JP is nearing 4k platinum. That is an obscene amount of cash to be dropped at once on the economy. Our last big winner was 130ish plat about 2 years ago I believe. It just seems to methat the system isnt working well. I feel, if they are going to keep it up and running, that they should improve the game play of the Gigglegibber lottery.

[StormCinder]

Based on what the OP states, the GG seems to be working EXACTLY as intended. MMOs need money sinks in game in order to curb 'mudflation' (look it up on wikipedia), just like paying 'rent' on virtual housing. The purpose of the GG is to pull money out of the game economy, not give it back. If there IS a problem, it's that you haven't realized that yet. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> SC

[Daedalus Raistlin]

<cite>StormCinder wrote:</cite><blockquote>Based on what the OP states, the GG seems to be working EXACTLY as intended. MMOs need money sinks in game in order to curb 'mudflation' (look it up on wikipedia), just like paying 'rent' on virtual housing. The purpose of the GG is to pull money out of the game economy, not give it back. If there IS a problem, it's that you haven't realized that yet. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" /> SC</blockquote>What if someone finally won that? 3.8k plat is a lot of money, they might end up selling that for real life money, buying up just about everything on the broker and raising the prices sky high, etc.And if nobody ever wins, there is no point in using it so less money is actually coming out of the economy, which is the reason it's there in the first place.

[StormCinder]

<cite>Daedalus Raistlin wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>StormCinder wrote:</cite><blockquote>Based on what the OP states, the GG seems to be working EXACTLY as intended. MMOs need money sinks in game in order to curb 'mudflation' (look it up on wikipedia), just like paying 'rent' on virtual housing. The purpose of the GG is to pull money out of the game economy, not give it back. If there IS a problem, it's that you haven't realized that yet. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" />" /> SC</blockquote>What if someone finally won that? 3.8k plat is a lot of money, they might end up selling that for real life money, buying up just about everything on the broker and raising the prices sky high, etc.And if nobody ever wins, there is no point in using it so less money is actually coming out of the economy, which is the reason it's there in the first place.</blockquote>As has been pointed out, nobody has won in a VERY long time on Kithicor, and on some servers nobody has ever won.   And yet people keep playing.  Soooo...it IS taking money out of the economy.The 'risk' of someone selling it for in-game plat can be said for anything.  Heck, anyone with over 100plat in the bank can be suspected of the crime of 'potential RMT participation.'  If the accumulation of money is the root of all evil, then the system is better the way it is.  And I'm pretty sure if someone actually ever won, the GMs will keep a pretty close eye on the account.If you play the GG with thoughts of actually winning, you should probably stay away from cities like Las Vegas and any other casino.   Also, avoid liquor stores and convenience stores where lottery tickets are sold.  The lottery in my state has earned well over $1Billion in revenue for the state.   That's how a money sink works.  My guess is, if someone ever did win 4k plat it would work a lot like the real lottery.  They will go on a bit of a spending spree on the broker...all those rare shinies, etc.  Will allocate to each alt so that they can twink themselves.  Might share with guildies, if guilded.  Then, get bored with spending and start hanging out in different parts of Norrath, handing out 1pp to newbs.  Will likely have to stop playing the toon that actually wins, due to all of the calls for handouts.Again, I understand what you're aiming for, but it's kind of asking SOE to invest time changing a [working-as-intended] in-game mechanic to function counter to it's intended purpose.SC

[Nolrog]

<cite>Amcaze wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>I agree. However... I think there was some mention that due to issues with people selling plat outside of the game, from non-SE servers, there was a question about the legality as it might be perceived as online gambling. The reason being that although it is against the TOS to sell plat except on the SE servers, it can still be converted to RL cash. Same reason gambling was taken out of Second Life last year.</blockquote>The Gigglegibber is up, so this shouldnt be an issue. If they are going to keep this aspect of the game up and running, then I feel they should improve the game play of the Gigglegibber lottery system. Our JP is nearing 4k platinum. That is an obscene amount of cash to be dropped at once on the economy. Our last big winner was 130ish plat about 2 years ago I believe. It just seems to methat the system isnt working well. I feel, if they are going to keep it up and running, that they should improve the game play of the Gigglegibber lottery.</blockquote>Seems to me that it's working perfectly.  It's taking money out of the game, which is the intent.  Last big winner: None on several servers.  Only 130pp on yours? 

[Chips]

<p>Kill the Goblin !!!</p><p>thats rule no 1 </p><p>as the butcherblock jackpot grows real close to 500 platinum , i say we mug the green [skin] and take his cash.</p>

[Jai1]

<p>SoE should try to sell EQ IP for a Slot machine... try Bally's.  They'd have to help design the lore around those little slot mini-games but I'd drop some bucks on an EQ penny slot if I saw it in Vegas or down the street.  It would have to be a Wide Area Progressive game because it's an MMO of course. </p><p>I'd like to play a slots mini-game in EQ2 formed around Class III gambling slots. I hang out in the tavern's OTB/Cards section or bet on creature fighting matches but it would all be so much better than playing real money.  </p><p>As long as there's a dollar value on virtual money then I don't see anything this cool being hosted in the US at this time.</p>

[Daedalus Raistlin]

My reason for pointing it out is because it does get won eventually - a guildmate of mine won it not long ago, over 1000 plat.This in the AB server, it hasn't been won since and we're slowly climbing back up (it's around 300 - 400p now) so it seems it goes off relatively often.

[Killerbee3000]

The jackpot is not bloated until it exceeds ~100k plat...what can you do with 3k plat? buy your mythical, then you have 2,3k left, then you can buy some of the rarer masters (like priest single target heals for example) and you will be down to what you had before very fast again.once had the first 5 numbers right, almost had a heart attack lol.

[Stuge]

<span style="font-family: courier new,courier;">I'd rather see them switch up the actual game every few months, rather than the payout.  Have the li'l bugger deal a hand of cards or spin a wheel or something for a change of pace.</span>

[Kilmir]

I'm pretty sure the jackpot gets reset with each game update.On Lucan D'lere it was rather absurd, like 20k or so, a few weeks back. But it was only 1k a few days after the last GU and there still has never been a winner on this server as far as I know.

[Elcarp]

I think you're smoking something... I'm on Lucan as well, and the jackpot is just under 3k, as it has been since I've been in game back in january... though you are correct about no one ever winning it o0n this server

[Kleitos]

Yes, it's just under 3k plat on Lucan and I play every chance I get... just to have somewhere to put my 10s at a time. Noone has every won it on Lucan since the goblins appeared and it was borked for a while were it didn't show the jackpot.It is fine like it is, the best suggestion so far is have him spin a wheel, draw cards or something else. I bet the Gigglegibbers have earned quite some cash by now and if they are business-goblins should think about opening another kind of game to further their revenue. Atleast get some new clothes/trinkets/hat/whatever-goblins-wear.

[GrunEQ]

<span style="font-size: small;font-family: comic sans ms,sand;">Love the idea of them expanding their business and opening up other games in other locations.  Maybe in the tavern in Ant or the Crossroads in CL, or that little camp near the gate in Ferrott... you get the idea....would be fun and encourage more spending.  Altering prizes would be fun, too.</span>

[Freliant]

How about other types of gigglegibber games that award items for their highest prize. Like a Mythical. Can you imagine the amount of plat that would be dumped if you had a chance to get a mythical from the gigglegibber game?

[McMad]

<p>I honestly don't belive it's actually winnable anymore (it was at one time). I think the goblins are just scamming us now. Probability states it should have been won at least ONCE in 4 years. I mean, honestly!</p><p>Never trust a Gigglegibber. We should all know that.</p>