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Hukklebuk
06-01-2008, 11:01 AM
Does anyone even hotbar this pile of junk?I keep looking around and nobody ever asks about it, so I figured I'd throw it out since I don't hotbar it, it's <b>completely</b> useless to me.  A Rooted and Stifled Defiler... sweet... wonder who came up with this crap back when it was what,  the level 50 spell?  And it just keeps getting dragged forward~  just dump this pile of garbage from our spell list imo.fwiw I raid and do some solo healing of dungeons - again zero benefit from this thing.If anyone has found a use for it, I'd be interested in knowing what it is (seriously)and yes I'm well aware of the Mythical epic garbage.  this isn't about that.  Just the spell itself.

Greggthegrmreapr
06-01-2008, 11:52 AM
It has occsional uses.  If an encounter has lots of mobs in it, and have another healer, I'll pop corruption, epic, defile and Pandemonium and watch things die.  Somewhat useful in PvP too, but thats about it.

Sedenten
06-02-2008, 01:57 PM
<p>I use it in a few token situations, but only when the situation is generally under control.  I like to toss it out on an encounter--ward the group, toss out apothic, defile, and finish with Pandemonium and let everything cook while putting out my oh-so-awesome melee DPS.  If health starts going down too fast, I can just toggle the ability off and go back to healing.  If it wasn't toggleable, it would be completely useless.  As it stands, it's only mostly useless.</p><p>I also sometimes will use it (if I remember to, anyway) when the majority of the group is running low on power and just before the mob we're on is about to die.  I usually have no power issues, but in groups without much power regen I'll force myself to find a time to throw Pandemonium out there to help out.</p><p>If only it didn't stifle, I'd find myself using it a lot more.  I don't really understand what would be grossly overpowering about having the stifle removed, even if we had to take a slight hit in the amount of regen it provides while it's up or a longer recast.</p>

Cragger
06-02-2008, 05:22 PM
I use it to get fun parses on mutli mob encounters stacking all our AEs, but no it has no real 'heal' usage and is definately not a raid ability.

Cheydak
06-02-2008, 07:16 PM
To me, the problem with this spell, aside from the stifle, is that it tries to be too many things at one time and fails miserably at all of them.  The 'heal' is laughable, the power increase is useless and the damage it does is minimal.  IMO if groups have power issues there are way better power proc items out there to toss on that won't stifle you.  Like its predecessors Maelstrom of Dismay and then Maelstrom, I don't waste a hotbar slot on this trash.  It's kind of a kick in the behind we got both this little gem and Deathward at level 80.  

Sokolov
06-07-2008, 10:09 PM
I haven't played in awhile, but even back in the "old days," the special heals were never really any good for any of the Priests in general due to the Stifling portion.However, problem raid planning can allow certain ones to be utilized to overcome encounters your raid group cannot beat.For example, I took a beginning raid tank as MT through that one dragon raid that you needed for some quest... in Bonemire, I think it was.  Anyway, basically, there was no way he should've been able to tank that encounter, but using 2 Furies and a Defiler in the MT group, we were able to back-to-back stack the Fury's special heal which increases his mitigation, so he was "uberfied" enough for the rest of the raid to burn the dragon down.Unfortunately, the Defiler one is pretty useless except to get a high DMG parse once in awhile.

Cragger
06-08-2008, 09:45 AM
Mystic's Oberon was pretty darn useful back in the day.