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skycruise
05-29-2008, 02:34 PM
Last night I was raiding in Shard of Hate.I had 112 haste most of the time, (death march and swift attack)I had 1632 attackMy primary attack was 250-1001My int was at 812, str at 640I was in offensive stance with epic and no shield, but 2 symbols.My spell dmg was at +650 and CA was at +350.dps mod was 4 from items.dble atck was 10 from items.The priceless stat was my average dps was only 708.shouldn't the above numbers equate a better dps?TYPE DAMAGE EXT DPS AVERAGE MIN HIT MAX HIT RESIST HITS CRITHITS SWINGS TO HIT % All 8415399 702.75 721.24 0 12846 All 11668 3908 12630 92.38 slash 2084746 174.09 975.55 163 2855 slashing 2137 148 2674 79.92 Grim Strike 586156 48.95 937.85 0 1593 disease 625 449 625 100.00 Pain Wrath 528773 44.16 3074.26 2033 5253 disease 172 128 191 90.05 Lucan's Boot 472741 39.48 841.18 0 1493 piercing 562 40 588 95.58 Shadow Coil 447704 37.39 505.31 0 1697 disease 886 613 899 98.55 Siphon Vitae 433214 36.18 1341.22 0 2136 disease 323 217 350 92.29 Tap 422993 35.32 2532.89 0 3839 disease 167 119 167 100.00 Swift Attack 392055 32.74 1260.63 0 2411 slashing 311 19 331 93.96 Pariah's Strike 366018 30.57 197.10 0 962 slashing 1857 117 1873 99.15 Legionnaire's Smite 333131 27.82 1641.04 980 2573 magic 203 149 214 94.86 Malice 297444 24.84 1565.50 948 2593 disease 190 130 201 94.53 grave sacrament 264080 22.05 481.90 285 797 slashing 548 4 548 100.00 Anguish 256971 21.46 941.29 0 1650 disease 273 17 277 98.56 Doom Rays 186071 15.54 1707.07 0 2627 slashing 109 4 114 95.61 Claw 162520 13.57 1128.61 0 1915 slashing 144 8 166 86.75 Painful Aura 161706 13.50 445.47 290 827 disease 363 252 370 98.11 Death Touch 159720 13.34 8406.32 0 12846 disease 19 13 19 100.00 Unholy Strike 143028 11.94 467.41 257 738 disease 306 228 306 100.00 Crimson Circle 127603 10.66 325.52 146 899 disease 392 12 393 99.75 Insinuate 89904 7.51 184.61 79 339 mental 487 343 498 97.79 Seed of Fire 84597 7.06 156.95 106 238 heat 539 416 539 100.00 Fierce Combat 77413 6.46 437.36 0 674 slashing 177 133 177 100.00 Siphon Strike 68222 5.70 360.96 0 654 disease 189 8 197 95.94 Hateful Slam 61453 5.13 476.38 323 743 disease 129 8 133 96.99 Strike of Faith 36184 3.02 593.18 0 782 divine 61 46 61 100.00 Crypt's Revenge 30796 2.57 540.28 326 777 disease 57 43 57 100.00 Blooming Flames 22870 1.91 714.69 491 958 heat 32 22 32 100.00 Master's Strike 19888 1.66 864.70 473 1292 slashing 23 13 25 92.00 Blade Chime 17992 1.50 206.80 127 275 disease 87 60 87 100.00 crush 17798 1.49 809.00 450 1434 crushing 22 3 25 88.00 Pestilence Damage 15786 1.32 335.87 220 667 disease 47 27 48 97.92 Corpse Fire 14286 1.19 348.44 0 509 divine 41 31 41 100.00 Ykesha's Stike 10548 0.88 958.91 947 981 magic 11 11 12 91.67 Caress Feedback 6502 0.54 84.44 63 113 disease 77 58 130 59.23 Divine Light 6419 0.54 1283.80 1149 1483 divine 5 5 8 62.50 Divine Strike 4201 0.35 466.78 321 560 divine 9 7 9 100.00 Sanguine Feedback 2345 0.20 390.83 383 393 heat 6 6 6 100.00 Sky Cleave 657 0.05 657.00 657 657 slashing 1 1 1 100.00 Septic Feedback 493 0.04 493.00 493 493 disease 1 0 1 100.00 Dawnfire 371 0.03 371.00 371 371 heat 1 0 1 100.00 What am I doing wrong to have had only a 702 dps?
Darkc
05-29-2008, 03:18 PM
<p>Well, you're trying way to hard to be a "caster" it seems. Instead of using 2 symbols, you'd be MUCH better off using a Bow like the Di'Zok bow with +25 str and +50 Int. Slap a +10 or +12 DPS Adornment on there. Next your neck... +12 DPS adornments are cheap. For Haste it seems that you had an Illusionist that was hasting you? Death March doesn't give haste, only +DPS (for 10 seconds) and Swift Attack is 30 if maxxed. Do you have a Haste item? Like the blue shiney collection belt or the Mastercrafted cloak?</p><p> What I personally do is I put the +20 haste adornment on my 2h weapon (Bonecrusher, but Maidnes quest reward 2h'er is good too) and use that if I'm DPS on raids (or tanking trash in Instances) and use the Rallos Zek Cloak for the proc and +DPS mod. If I'm tanking, then I use my epic and my Mastercrafted Cloak for Haste. </p><p>Your Melee Damage is MUCH more important than spell damage on single targets. With a decent 2h'er, some DPS mod buffage (or items), and Haste you're hitting for 6 - 8k every couple seconds. Try your best to get your DPS + Haste as high as possible. </p><p>Good DPS Items:</p><p>Neck / Bow Adorns a MUST</p><p>Rallos Cloak</p><p>PR Belt</p><p>Death Bringer BP from Seb</p><p>Mastercrafted Str Ring a MUST</p><p>Good Haste items:</p><p>2h weapon adornment</p><p>MC Cloak (26 Haste)</p><p>Mistmoore Cloak</p><p>Blue Shiney Belt</p><p>Double Attack items:</p><p>Impaler Legs from Maidens</p><p>Quest Helm from JW</p><p>Quest Boots from JW</p><p>Trampler's Boots from PR</p><p> 2h Weapons:</p><p>Maidens Reward 2h'er</p><p>2h Slash from Invincible encounter in Kor-Sha</p><p>2h Crush (awesome weapon!) from Pawbuster</p><p>Get some of this stuff and you can't go wrong. I usually parse 2k - 3.2k depending on fight in DPS gear. I'm sure there's room for improvement especially with the ring that drops SoH. </p>
therodge
05-29-2008, 03:34 PM
<p>trust me get your double attack up and get your strength up. and get a nice 5 second + delay two hander, and melee crit melee crit melee crit and you will be set</p>
skycruise
05-29-2008, 05:52 PM
Awesome! Thanks for the advice guys! Yes, I have a caster complex.. I'm glad you are here to help fellow SK's <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" />I got the haste up by having the cloak of flames, max AA on str line for swift axe and passive speed. Also had some other items that had like 1 and 2 haste on them.25 from cloak2 from Yha-Lei tracker's belt3 from shuddering earring30 from swift axe17.6 from Avenger's relentlessness (3rd down on str)77.6 there, i guess the rest was from group buffs.the rest was from a group buff.Speaking of AA's what do you all recommend for them to max out dps and maintaining group buffs on wis line. I was thinking Max Mellee Crits and str line for the hastes and wis line AA's that help you hit more often.
CHIMPNOODLE.
05-29-2008, 11:50 PM
<p>What was your group makeup? That's a biggie.</p>
skycruise
05-30-2008, 09:32 PM
I was in a group with an illusionist and a swash and 3 others i cannot remember.I took your guy's advice and was doing 1421 in crypt of agony, although i was just asked to help out on the Fallen Emporer Vekin. I was in offensive stance and did topped out the parse at 1665 on that. I can';t thank you enough as I was able to hold aggro and the fight was really fast. can't thank you enough.The changes I made were to get the DPS adornmnets for neck and bow. Str ring and agi ring.my dps was as high as 128 and attack speed got up to 102 depending on when rings proc'd.
<cite>skycruise wrote:</cite><blockquote>Last night I was raiding in Shard of Hate.I had 112 haste most of the time, (death march and swift attack)I had 1632 attackMy primary attack was 250-1001My int was at 812, str at 640I was in offensive stance with epic and no shield, but 2 symbols.My spell dmg was at +650 and CA was at +350.dps mod was 4 from items.dble atck was 10 from items.The priceless stat was my average dps was only 708.shouldn't the above numbers equate a better dps?TYPE DAMAGE EXT DPS AVERAGE MIN HIT MAX HIT RESIST HITS CRITHITS SWINGS TO HIT % All 8415399 702.75 721.24 0 12846 All 11668 3908 12630 92.38 slash 2084746 174.09 975.55 163 2855 slashing 2137 148 2674 79.92 Grim Strike 586156 48.95 937.85 0 1593 disease 625 449 625 100.00 Pain Wrath 528773 44.16 3074.26 2033 5253 disease 172 128 191 90.05 Lucan's Boot 472741 39.48 841.18 0 1493 piercing 562 40 588 95.58 Shadow Coil 447704 37.39 505.31 0 1697 disease 886 613 899 98.55 Siphon Vitae 433214 36.18 1341.22 0 2136 disease 323 217 350 92.29 Tap 422993 35.32 2532.89 0 3839 disease 167 119 167 100.00 Swift Attack 392055 32.74 1260.63 0 2411 slashing 311 19 331 93.96 Pariah's Strike 366018 30.57 197.10 0 962 slashing 1857 117 1873 99.15 Legionnaire's Smite 333131 27.82 1641.04 980 2573 magic 203 149 214 94.86 Malice 297444 24.84 1565.50 948 2593 disease 190 130 201 94.53 grave sacrament 264080 22.05 481.90 285 797 slashing 548 4 548 100.00 Anguish 256971 21.46 941.29 0 1650 disease 273 17 277 98.56 Doom Rays 186071 15.54 1707.07 0 2627 slashing 109 4 114 95.61 Claw 162520 13.57 1128.61 0 1915 slashing 144 8 166 86.75 Painful Aura 161706 13.50 445.47 290 827 disease 363 252 370 98.11 Death Touch 159720 13.34 8406.32 0 12846 disease 19 13 19 100.00 Unholy Strike 143028 11.94 467.41 257 738 disease 306 228 306 100.00 Crimson Circle 127603 10.66 325.52 146 899 disease 392 12 393 99.75 Insinuate 89904 7.51 184.61 79 339 mental 487 343 498 97.79 Seed of Fire 84597 7.06 156.95 106 238 heat 539 416 539 100.00 Fierce Combat 77413 6.46 437.36 0 674 slashing 177 133 177 100.00 Siphon Strike 68222 5.70 360.96 0 654 disease 189 8 197 95.94 Hateful Slam 61453 5.13 476.38 323 743 disease 129 8 133 96.99 Strike of Faith 36184 3.02 593.18 0 782 divine 61 46 61 100.00 Crypt's Revenge 30796 2.57 540.28 326 777 disease 57 43 57 100.00 Blooming Flames 22870 1.91 714.69 491 958 heat 32 22 32 100.00 Master's Strike 19888 1.66 864.70 473 1292 slashing 23 13 25 92.00 Blade Chime 17992 1.50 206.80 127 275 disease 87 60 87 100.00 crush 17798 1.49 809.00 450 1434 crushing 22 3 25 88.00 Pestilence Damage 15786 1.32 335.87 220 667 disease 47 27 48 97.92 Corpse Fire 14286 1.19 348.44 0 509 divine 41 31 41 100.00 Ykesha's Stike 10548 0.88 958.91 947 981 magic 11 11 12 91.67 Caress Feedback 6502 0.54 84.44 63 113 disease 77 58 130 59.23 Divine Light 6419 0.54 1283.80 1149 1483 divine 5 5 8 62.50 Divine Strike 4201 0.35 466.78 321 560 divine 9 7 9 100.00 Sanguine Feedback 2345 0.20 390.83 383 393 heat 6 6 6 100.00 Sky Cleave 657 0.05 657.00 657 657 slashing 1 1 1 100.00 Septic Feedback 493 0.04 493.00 493 493 disease 1 0 1 100.00 Dawnfire 371 0.03 371.00 371 371 heat 1 0 1 100.00 What am I doing wrong to have had only a 702 dps? </blockquote><p>Honestly, I haven't raided much myself but I managed 696 DPS zonewide in Lyceum at 67 (3 level under the intended level for the instance) in mostly mastercrafted gear with adornments (symbol with +disease in ranged slot). I wish I still had the log to compare breakdown by ability so I could see what's going on there.</p><p>I'm not at all convinced that going the melee route is a good idea (at least not before 70 and being able to have 70 AAs, maybe I'll change my mind in Kunark), though you might be over cap with that much +spell damage. If that's the case you should swap some of that for other stats. I suspect the caster route is more effective when you have multiple mobs to AoE down. Highest I've managed to get my parser to go for an encounter was like 1600 with death march and AoE goodness. (Well... not counting using harm touch on a grey mob and having it tell me my DPS is infinite lol.)</p>
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