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skycruise
05-29-2008, 02:34 PM
Last night I was raiding in Shard of Hate.I had 112 haste most of the time, (death march and swift attack)I had 1632 attackMy primary attack was 250-1001My int was at 812, str at 640I was in offensive stance with epic and no shield, but 2 symbols.My spell dmg was at +650 and CA was at +350.dps mod was 4 from items.dble atck was 10 from items.The priceless stat was my average dps was only 708.shouldn't the above numbers equate a better dps?TYPE                         DAMAGE   EXT DPS  AVERAGE  MIN HIT  MAX HIT  RESIST    HITS    CRITHITS  SWINGS  TO HIT %  All                          8415399  702.75   721.24   0        12846    All       11668   3908      12630   92.38     slash                        2084746  174.09   975.55   163      2855     slashing  2137    148       2674    79.92     Grim Strike                  586156   48.95    937.85   0        1593     disease   625     449       625     100.00    Pain Wrath                   528773   44.16    3074.26  2033     5253     disease   172     128       191     90.05     Lucan's Boot                 472741   39.48    841.18   0        1493     piercing  562     40        588     95.58     Shadow Coil                  447704   37.39    505.31   0        1697     disease   886     613       899     98.55     Siphon Vitae                 433214   36.18    1341.22  0        2136     disease   323     217       350     92.29     Tap                          422993   35.32    2532.89  0        3839     disease   167     119       167     100.00    Swift Attack                 392055   32.74    1260.63  0        2411     slashing  311     19        331     93.96     Pariah's Strike              366018   30.57    197.10   0        962      slashing  1857    117       1873    99.15     Legionnaire's Smite          333131   27.82    1641.04  980      2573     magic     203     149       214     94.86     Malice                       297444   24.84    1565.50  948      2593     disease   190     130       201     94.53     grave sacrament              264080   22.05    481.90   285      797      slashing  548     4         548     100.00    Anguish                      256971   21.46    941.29   0        1650     disease   273     17        277     98.56     Doom Rays                    186071   15.54    1707.07  0        2627     slashing  109     4         114     95.61     Claw                         162520   13.57    1128.61  0        1915     slashing  144     8         166     86.75     Painful Aura                 161706   13.50    445.47   290      827      disease   363     252       370     98.11     Death Touch                  159720   13.34    8406.32  0        12846    disease   19      13        19      100.00    Unholy Strike                143028   11.94    467.41   257      738      disease   306     228       306     100.00    Crimson Circle               127603   10.66    325.52   146      899      disease   392     12        393     99.75     Insinuate                    89904    7.51     184.61   79       339      mental    487     343       498     97.79     Seed of Fire                 84597    7.06     156.95   106      238      heat      539     416       539     100.00    Fierce Combat                77413    6.46     437.36   0        674      slashing  177     133       177     100.00    Siphon Strike                68222    5.70     360.96   0        654      disease   189     8         197     95.94     Hateful Slam                 61453    5.13     476.38   323      743      disease   129     8         133     96.99     Strike of Faith              36184    3.02     593.18   0        782      divine    61      46        61      100.00    Crypt's Revenge              30796    2.57     540.28   326      777      disease   57      43        57      100.00    Blooming Flames              22870    1.91     714.69   491      958      heat      32      22        32      100.00    Master's Strike              19888    1.66     864.70   473      1292     slashing  23      13        25      92.00     Blade Chime                  17992    1.50     206.80   127      275      disease   87      60        87      100.00    crush                        17798    1.49     809.00   450      1434     crushing  22      3         25      88.00     Pestilence Damage            15786    1.32     335.87   220      667      disease   47      27        48      97.92     Corpse Fire                  14286    1.19     348.44   0        509      divine    41      31        41      100.00    Ykesha's Stike               10548    0.88     958.91   947      981      magic     11      11        12      91.67     Caress Feedback              6502     0.54     84.44    63       113      disease   77      58        130     59.23     Divine Light                 6419     0.54     1283.80  1149     1483     divine    5       5         8       62.50     Divine Strike                4201     0.35     466.78   321      560      divine    9       7         9       100.00    Sanguine Feedback            2345     0.20     390.83   383      393      heat      6       6         6       100.00    Sky Cleave                   657      0.05     657.00   657      657      slashing  1       1         1       100.00    Septic Feedback              493      0.04     493.00   493      493      disease   1       0         1       100.00    Dawnfire                     371      0.03     371.00   371      371      heat      1       0         1       100.00      What am I doing wrong to have had only a 702 dps? 

Darkc
05-29-2008, 03:18 PM
<p>Well, you're trying way to hard to be a "caster" it seems.  Instead of using 2 symbols, you'd be MUCH better off using a Bow like the Di'Zok bow with +25 str and +50 Int.  Slap a +10 or +12 DPS Adornment on there.  Next your neck... +12 DPS adornments are cheap.  For Haste it seems that you had an Illusionist that was hasting you?  Death March doesn't give haste, only +DPS (for 10 seconds) and Swift Attack is 30 if maxxed.  Do you have a Haste item?  Like the blue shiney collection belt or the Mastercrafted cloak?</p><p> What I personally do is I put the +20 haste adornment on my 2h weapon (Bonecrusher, but Maidnes quest reward 2h'er is good too) and use that if I'm DPS on raids (or tanking trash in Instances) and use the Rallos Zek Cloak for the proc and +DPS mod.  If I'm tanking, then I use my epic and my Mastercrafted Cloak for Haste.  </p><p>Your Melee Damage is MUCH more important than spell damage on single targets.  With a decent 2h'er, some DPS mod buffage (or items), and Haste you're hitting for 6 - 8k every couple seconds.  Try your best to get your DPS + Haste as high as possible.  </p><p>Good DPS Items:</p><p>Neck / Bow Adorns a MUST</p><p>Rallos Cloak</p><p>PR Belt</p><p>Death Bringer BP from Seb</p><p>Mastercrafted Str Ring a MUST</p><p>Good Haste items:</p><p>2h weapon adornment</p><p>MC Cloak (26 Haste)</p><p>Mistmoore Cloak</p><p>Blue Shiney Belt</p><p>Double Attack items:</p><p>Impaler Legs from Maidens</p><p>Quest Helm from JW</p><p>Quest Boots from JW</p><p>Trampler's Boots from PR</p><p> 2h Weapons:</p><p>Maidens Reward 2h'er</p><p>2h Slash from Invincible encounter in Kor-Sha</p><p>2h Crush (awesome weapon!) from Pawbuster</p><p>Get some of this stuff and you can't go wrong.  I usually parse 2k - 3.2k depending on fight in DPS gear.  I'm sure there's room for improvement especially with the ring that drops SoH.  </p>

therodge
05-29-2008, 03:34 PM
<p>trust me get your double attack up and get your strength up. and get a nice 5 second + delay two hander, and melee crit melee crit melee crit and you will be set</p>

skycruise
05-29-2008, 05:52 PM
Awesome! Thanks for the advice guys! Yes, I have a caster complex..  I'm glad you are here to help fellow SK's <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" />I got the haste up by having the cloak of flames, max AA on str line for swift axe and passive speed.  Also had some other items that had like 1 and 2 haste on them.25 from cloak2 from Yha-Lei tracker's belt3 from shuddering earring30 from swift axe17.6 from Avenger's relentlessness (3rd down on str)77.6 there, i guess the rest was from group buffs.the rest was from a group buff.Speaking of AA's what do you all recommend for them to max out dps and maintaining group buffs on wis line.  I was thinking Max Mellee Crits and str line for the hastes and wis line AA's that help you hit more often.

CHIMPNOODLE.
05-29-2008, 11:50 PM
<p>What was your group makeup? That's a biggie.</p>

skycruise
05-30-2008, 09:32 PM
I was in a group with an illusionist and a swash and 3 others i cannot remember.I took your guy's advice and was doing 1421 in crypt of agony, although i was just asked to help out on the Fallen Emporer Vekin.  I was in offensive stance and did topped out the parse at 1665 on that.  I can';t thank you enough as I was able to hold aggro and the fight was really fast.  can't thank you enough.The changes I made were to get the DPS adornmnets for neck and bow.  Str ring and agi ring.my dps was as high as 128 and attack speed got up to 102 depending on when rings proc'd.

Nole
06-01-2008, 03:38 PM
<cite>skycruise wrote:</cite><blockquote>Last night I was raiding in Shard of Hate.I had 112 haste most of the time, (death march and swift attack)I had 1632 attackMy primary attack was 250-1001My int was at 812, str at 640I was in offensive stance with epic and no shield, but 2 symbols.My spell dmg was at +650 and CA was at +350.dps mod was 4 from items.dble atck was 10 from items.The priceless stat was my average dps was only 708.shouldn't the above numbers equate a better dps?TYPE                         DAMAGE   EXT DPS  AVERAGE  MIN HIT  MAX HIT  RESIST    HITS    CRITHITS  SWINGS  TO HIT %  All                          8415399  702.75   721.24   0        12846    All       11668   3908      12630   92.38     slash                        2084746  174.09   975.55   163      2855     slashing  2137    148       2674    79.92     Grim Strike                  586156   48.95    937.85   0        1593     disease   625     449       625     100.00    Pain Wrath                   528773   44.16    3074.26  2033     5253     disease   172     128       191     90.05     Lucan's Boot                 472741   39.48    841.18   0        1493     piercing  562     40        588     95.58     Shadow Coil                  447704   37.39    505.31   0        1697     disease   886     613       899     98.55     Siphon Vitae                 433214   36.18    1341.22  0        2136     disease   323     217       350     92.29     Tap                          422993   35.32    2532.89  0        3839     disease   167     119       167     100.00    Swift Attack                 392055   32.74    1260.63  0        2411     slashing  311     19        331     93.96     Pariah's Strike              366018   30.57    197.10   0        962      slashing  1857    117       1873    99.15     Legionnaire's Smite          333131   27.82    1641.04  980      2573     magic     203     149       214     94.86     Malice                       297444   24.84    1565.50  948      2593     disease   190     130       201     94.53     grave sacrament              264080   22.05    481.90   285      797      slashing  548     4         548     100.00    Anguish                      256971   21.46    941.29   0        1650     disease   273     17        277     98.56     Doom Rays                    186071   15.54    1707.07  0        2627     slashing  109     4         114     95.61     Claw                         162520   13.57    1128.61  0        1915     slashing  144     8         166     86.75     Painful Aura                 161706   13.50    445.47   290      827      disease   363     252       370     98.11     Death Touch                  159720   13.34    8406.32  0        12846    disease   19      13        19      100.00    Unholy Strike                143028   11.94    467.41   257      738      disease   306     228       306     100.00    Crimson Circle               127603   10.66    325.52   146      899      disease   392     12        393     99.75     Insinuate                    89904    7.51     184.61   79       339      mental    487     343       498     97.79     Seed of Fire                 84597    7.06     156.95   106      238      heat      539     416       539     100.00    Fierce Combat                77413    6.46     437.36   0        674      slashing  177     133       177     100.00    Siphon Strike                68222    5.70     360.96   0        654      disease   189     8         197     95.94     Hateful Slam                 61453    5.13     476.38   323      743      disease   129     8         133     96.99     Strike of Faith              36184    3.02     593.18   0        782      divine    61      46        61      100.00    Crypt's Revenge              30796    2.57     540.28   326      777      disease   57      43        57      100.00    Blooming Flames              22870    1.91     714.69   491      958      heat      32      22        32      100.00    Master's Strike              19888    1.66     864.70   473      1292     slashing  23      13        25      92.00     Blade Chime                  17992    1.50     206.80   127      275      disease   87      60        87      100.00    crush                        17798    1.49     809.00   450      1434     crushing  22      3         25      88.00     Pestilence Damage            15786    1.32     335.87   220      667      disease   47      27        48      97.92     Corpse Fire                  14286    1.19     348.44   0        509      divine    41      31        41      100.00    Ykesha's Stike               10548    0.88     958.91   947      981      magic     11      11        12      91.67     Caress Feedback              6502     0.54     84.44    63       113      disease   77      58        130     59.23     Divine Light                 6419     0.54     1283.80  1149     1483     divine    5       5         8       62.50     Divine Strike                4201     0.35     466.78   321      560      divine    9       7         9       100.00    Sanguine Feedback            2345     0.20     390.83   383      393      heat      6       6         6       100.00    Sky Cleave                   657      0.05     657.00   657      657      slashing  1       1         1       100.00    Septic Feedback              493      0.04     493.00   493      493      disease   1       0         1       100.00    Dawnfire                     371      0.03     371.00   371      371      heat      1       0         1       100.00      What am I doing wrong to have had only a 702 dps? </blockquote><p>Honestly, I haven't raided much myself but I managed 696 DPS zonewide in Lyceum at 67 (3 level under the intended level for the instance) in mostly mastercrafted gear with adornments (symbol with +disease in ranged slot). I wish I still had the log to compare breakdown by ability so I could see what's going on there.</p><p>I'm not at all convinced that going the melee route is a good idea (at least not before 70 and being able to have 70 AAs, maybe I'll change my mind in Kunark), though you might be over cap with that much +spell damage. If that's the case you should swap some of that for other stats. I suspect the caster route is more effective when you have multiple mobs to AoE down. Highest I've managed to get my parser to go for an encounter was like 1600 with death march and AoE goodness. (Well... not counting using harm touch on a grey mob and having it tell me my DPS is infinite lol.)</p>