New Procs firing off any spells.... SoW for example.

[Lasai]

<p>This is just a guess, as my combat log is showing nothing,  however, this is happening when I'm not in combat and not targeting anything.</p><p>This is what happens fairly regularly.  Something is proccing off spells like self buffs, run speed buffs, even off calling my mount, in other words, ANY spell.   It hits at the end of a cast always.  </p><p>I get the graphic effect of the lighting bolt hitting my character.  Again, checking combat spam nothing is indicated, just the graphic firing off.</p><p>I'm guessing that the new mechanic of imbues proccing off spells is being a bit liberal in its interpretation of a spell.</p><p>This started on Test, and as I have equipped the new imbue weapons on Live chars it is now happening there also.  Both kinds of weapons imbues can cause this.</p><p>It is very obvious when it procs in non combat situations, non combat spells, with nothing targeted. </p><p>It may be nothing... but possibly should be checked, as a damage and threat proc firing off a Dethreat spell could be sort of nasty.</p>

[Llach]

<p>Found this on live servers too.  Anytime I cast buffs on myself or summon my carpet I have a good chance to get smacked with a lightning bolt.</p><p> Strangely enough I rarely if ever see the same effect when I am casting at a mob!</p>

[Troubor]

<cite>Lasai wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This is just a guess, as my combat log is showing nothing,  however, this is happening when I'm not in combat and not targeting anything.</p><p>This is what happens fairly regularly.  Something is proccing off spells like self buffs, run speed buffs, even off calling my mount, in other words, ANY spell.   It hits at the end of a cast always.  </p><p>I get the graphic effect of the lighting bolt hitting my character.  Again, checking combat spam nothing is indicated, just the graphic firing off.</p><p>I'm guessing that the new mechanic of imbues proccing off spells is being a bit liberal in its interpretation of a spell.</p><p>This started on Test, and as I have equipped the new imbue weapons on Live chars it is now happening there also.  Both kinds of weapons imbues can cause this.</p><p>It is very obvious when it procs in non combat situations, non combat spells, with nothing targeted. </p><p>It may be nothing... but possibly should be checked, as a damage and threat proc firing off a Dethreat spell could be sort of nasty.</p></blockquote>Although I also think of it as a "bug" or at least as "not working as intended", the new blessing imbue on mastercrafted weapons isn't the only thing that does that.  My paladin fabled epic sword, it's proc will go off when I'm just rebuffing.  There's a fabled hammer, Love's Lament that does that too (or did the last time I had it, I looted it since I liked the look, ended up transmuting it since it was too dangerous to use)..and is kind of dangerous, since it's proc is AoE if I recall right..and thus one can aggro things if you cast any spell, including things most wouldn't consider a spell like calling for a mount or some such.  There's a lot of other items that proc off of spells that do that.  They need to look at things like self buffs, calling for a mount, SoW and other things not normally cast in battle and flag them to not go off on such IMO.

[Shinreu]

<p>First time this happened the other the night, it freaked me out lol.  I thought I was attacked so I was looking every where for a mob and when I didn't see one I checked my logs and nada.. </p>

[denmom]

Yep, same here, the new blessing procs like mad on my L80 Warden and my L53 Paladin.  Any spell or heal, buff or not.When I ran thru VoES with friends the other night, I had the new incarnadine shamshir on my Warden to test drive it.  I wasn't sure I wanted to trade between it and the old mc'd scepter...I lost 19 pts of wisdom with that but a VoES run would put to the test whether or not that'd be an issue.I saw it proc off heals and spells.  At one point I saw it proc five times in rapid succession when I wasn't healing or casting.  My guess it was proccing off spores which had just triggered on the tank on the pull and the single target heal stacked on the group heal I cast when the tank parked at the group.I kinda find it amusing...but I understand why those who have the hate/dehate imbue wouldn't like it as much.  It's rather benign for those with the blessing imbue but the hate imbue would just be a Bad Thing(tm) in a high aggro, thick mob situation.

[Troubor]

<cite>Pheep@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yep, same here, the new blessing procs like mad on my L80 Warden and my L53 Paladin.  Any spell or heal, buff or not.When I ran thru VoES with friends the other night, I had the new incarnadine shamshir on my Warden to test drive it.  I wasn't sure I wanted to trade between it and the old mc'd scepter...I lost 19 pts of wisdom with that but a VoES run would put to the test whether or not that'd be an issue.I saw it proc off heals and spells.  At one point I saw it proc five times in rapid succession when I wasn't healing or casting.  My guess it was proccing off spores which had just triggered on the tank on the pull and the single target heal stacked on the group heal I cast when the tank parked at the group.I kinda find it amusing...but I understand why those who have the hate/dehate imbue wouldn't like it as much.  It's rather benign for those with the blessing imbue but the hate imbue would just be a Bad Thing(tm) in a high aggro, thick mob situation.</blockquote><p>The hate imbue wouldn't do that.  It's really just the old gleaming strike with a taunt/detaunt proc depending on facing added to it.  It goes off of attacks, not spells cast.</p>

[Lasai]

<cite>Troubor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Pheep@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yep, same here, the new blessing procs like mad on my L80 Warden and my L53 Paladin.  Any spell or heal, buff or not.When I ran thru VoES with friends the other night, I had the new incarnadine shamshir on my Warden to test drive it.  I wasn't sure I wanted to trade between it and the old mc'd scepter...I lost 19 pts of wisdom with that but a VoES run would put to the test whether or not that'd be an issue.I saw it proc off heals and spells.  At one point I saw it proc five times in rapid succession when I wasn't healing or casting.  My guess it was proccing off spores which had just triggered on the tank on the pull and the single target heal stacked on the group heal I cast when the tank parked at the group.I kinda find it amusing...but I understand why those who have the hate/dehate imbue wouldn't like it as much.  It's rather benign for those with the blessing imbue but the hate imbue would just be a Bad Thing(tm) in a high aggro, thick mob situation.</blockquote><p>The hate imbue wouldn't do that.  It's really just the old gleaming strike with a taunt/detaunt proc depending on facing added to it.  It goes off of attacks, not spells cast.</p></blockquote><p>Actually the old text was "on a successful attack", the new text is "on any successful attack"</p><p>And I first noticed it on my test SK equipped with a gleaming strike weapon, and on live with both my assassin and SK, both equipped with the new gleaming strike.</p>

[Troubor]

<cite>Lasai wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Troubor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Pheep@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yep, same here, the new blessing procs like mad on my L80 Warden and my L53 Paladin.  Any spell or heal, buff or not.When I ran thru VoES with friends the other night, I had the new incarnadine shamshir on my Warden to test drive it.  I wasn't sure I wanted to trade between it and the old mc'd scepter...I lost 19 pts of wisdom with that but a VoES run would put to the test whether or not that'd be an issue.I saw it proc off heals and spells.  At one point I saw it proc five times in rapid succession when I wasn't healing or casting.  My guess it was proccing off spores which had just triggered on the tank on the pull and the single target heal stacked on the group heal I cast when the tank parked at the group.I kinda find it amusing...but I understand why those who have the hate/dehate imbue wouldn't like it as much.  It's rather benign for those with the blessing imbue but the hate imbue would just be a Bad Thing(tm) in a high aggro, thick mob situation.</blockquote><p>The hate imbue wouldn't do that.  It's really just the old gleaming strike with a taunt/detaunt proc depending on facing added to it.  It goes off of attacks, not spells cast.</p></blockquote><p>Actually the old text was "on a successful attack", the new text is "on any successful attack"</p><p>And I first noticed it on my test SK equipped with a gleaming strike weapon, and on live with both my assassin and SK, both equipped with the new gleaming strike.</p></blockquote><p>Guess I'll have to try my alts new weapons (my main has his epic, but most of my alts are using post GU45 MC weapons with the imbue), but regardless of "on a..." or "on any...", I always did take "attack" to mean a melee attack, not a spell.  But maybe "attack" might mean a combat art?  I may make an imbued weapon as opposed to blessed on purpose for my templar, since everything he'd have is spells, not do an auto attack, just nuke and go solo things..right now he's my one character other then my main using something other then a mastercrafted weapon right now.  Then go to one of my alts who use combat arts since the rest have standard imbued also.  </p>

[Domino]

The blessing is set to have a chance to go off on any spell cast, which would explain why you might see it while buffing, etc.  Although it looks somewhat alarming as a lightning bolt strikes you, I did decide to leave the same graphic on the blessing as the old imbue always had, just because it's quite noticeable and when you're in combat you might find it useful to know when your blessing has triggered.  The gleaming strike imbue should only be triggered on a successful hit (melee or spell) however so I'm a little puzzled why that one is behaving the same way.  It doesn't sound as if it's doing any harm, but we can take a look into what exactly is happening there.  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Incidentally you can probably get the same lightning bolt effect by wearing bronze armor and standing on top of Deathfist Lookout in Zek shouting insults about the parentage of Karana.  Though it might not be quite as beneficial.  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Tamar]

Not that it matters much, but in case anyone is listening and jotting down peoples' opinions. I really do not like the new "blessing" proc visual.It is rather annoying to see my little Halfling shocked repeatedly just for buffing.  If it was maybe just the lightning bolt it ~might~ be ok, but to watch a little Stout cringe repeatedly as she gets toasted ~by her own spells!~ is a little non-pleasing.Please, if you ever get some spare time Domino, consider changing the proc graphic to something that doesn't look so painful or distracting...

[Wazeau]

<p>Every time I open a portal my groupmates all point and laugh at me... "Wazeau nuked herself again..."</p><p>Never fails.</p>

[Rijacki]

<cite>Wazeau wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Every time I open a portal my groupmates all point and laugh at me... "Wazeau nuked herself again..."</p><p>Never fails.</p></blockquote>Just tell them you have a "shocking personality". <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[denmom]

I gotta admit, I love the graphic of the blessing...and I can understand why some won't.  It is rather alarming to have it go off in an aggro-thick area and then wonder just what's trying to eat your liver <i><b>this</b></i> time!  The way I see it, tho, my Wardens and Paladin are under Karana, so figure it's just a side effect...like how some people have problems with static on dry days.  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Me, I've taken to counting how many times it goes off in a fight.   So far 5 times in row is the highest I've seen back to back, but it seems to proc on average 3-4 times in a fight for me.

[sliderhouserules]

I was actually running some (not so robust) tests with my 76 wizard the other night in Jarsath Wastes to see how the two versions of the incarnadine ritual dagger stacked up against the Grizzfazzle wand, and the Gleaming Strike on the imbued version didn't proc once in about 20 kills. Aye, not a single proc. The blessed imbue went off several times.I was going to run some more thorough tests, and also manually scan my log file to see if ACT is just not registering the proc hit correctly or something, but I haven't had time, and I saw this thread and thought I'd throw this out there to see if anyone has had similar experience.

[sliderhouserules]

<cite>Troubor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><p>The hate imbue wouldn't do that.  It's really just the old gleaming strike with a taunt/detaunt proc depending on facing added to it.  It goes off of attacks, not spells cast.</p></blockquote>Wow, did you not read the threads we were all talking in when she was deciding how to change the weapons? <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=345&topic_id=409681&post_id=#4635891" target="_blank">This was fully explained</a> in your thread, even.Edit: I'm honestly baffled cause you quote Archonix later in the thread. I must be missing something.

[Prrasha]

<cite>Wazeau wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Every time I open a portal my groupmates all point and laugh at me... "Wazeau nuked herself again..."</p><p>Never fails.</p></blockquote>Shouldn't you be used to that as a healer?  The "Inspiring Piety" heroic opportunity has played a "nuke the mob while nuking yourself" graphic since the dawn of time, I think...

[Lasai]

<cite>DominoDev wrote:</cite><blockquote>The blessing is set to have a chance to go off on any spell cast, which would explain why you might see it while buffing, etc.  Although it looks somewhat alarming as a lightning bolt strikes you, I did decide to leave the same graphic on the blessing as the old imbue always had, just because it's quite noticeable and when you're in combat you might find it useful to know when your blessing has triggered.  The gleaming strike imbue should only be triggered on a successful hit (melee or spell) however so I'm a little puzzled why that one is behaving the same way.  It doesn't sound as if it's doing any harm, but we can take a look into what exactly is happening there.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" />Incidentally you can probably get the same lightning bolt effect by wearing bronze armor and standing on top of Deathfist Lookout in Zek shouting insults about the parentage of Karana.  Though it might not be quite as beneficial.  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p>Well actually the graphic effect is the old "boulders and lightning" hitting you, same as the Priest Heroic Opportunity or Unholy Weapon for SK.</p><p>The old purplish sizzling electrical bolt hitting the target is gone.. the old Gleaming strike graphic.</p><p>What is really odd is that on my chars with Imbued weapons the effect only hits when casting a non-combat spell,  when actually IN combat there is no effect at all.  I was testing my Assassin on the wall in Kunzar and had not a single imbue effect happen in combat in 168 gleaming strike procs.</p><p>Its just odd.  Certainly not game breaking at all, just odd.</p>

[Brook]

I dont like it going off on buffs or when trying to invis. on pvp you use both sight and sound to play and I was standing in a tower working on the betrayal quest and heard the sound of a scout going stealth outside the tower (not that invis would have really done much good at that range, but I cast it anyway). That lightning bolt went off and I burst out of the tower thinking I was under attack and ran into the scout that was heading away from me. Its kinda funny now, but really I was not a happy camper when it was all going down. Also I have never seen it go off in a fight at all, only while buffing or going invis. It may have and I missed it.

[greenmantle]

I get the same thing seems i have done some thing to [Removed for Content] of my horse , it nukes me every time i summon it but i have yet to see it go off in combat.

[KERSTYNN]

I have had this happening anytime my assassin, ranger and swashy go into stealth. Kinda blows the whole "I am being sneaky" vibe to get hit by a bolt whenever I stealth out, hehe. Posting just to show the powers-that-be another odd place that this occuring. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Lasai]

This is becoming hilarious, I got zapped yesterday throwing my Wood Elf illusion up on my Brigand.