Hotbar icons disappering on purpose

[TheMightyTaco]

Please undo this recent change!Now, whenever you use up the last of a miracle or have an AA hotkey that is no longer available because you used your AA mirror or respec the UI is automatically removing the icon from the hotbar when you zone.This is NOT good!People are arranging their hotbars knowing that there are some items that are not going to be available. But those icons WILL be available again when AAs are changed or miracles are purchased. I believe this applies to summoned items too.Please, please revert this behavior. It is more trouble to reorganize hotbars than to skip over a few grayed icons.

[wullailhuit]

Hell yes , I second this.I have 2 hotbars with spells that I don't always have , God spells that I use when I need to, AP line spells that I switch between , Necro spells that I gain from a debuff.These spells are not always there , but I have them arranged so I know where they are...Now I have them popping up on unused icons on my other hotbars all over the place when I gain them back again after swapping AP setups etc....

[Trilarian-2]

/agreeMake this a toggle item in options if you want to please everyone.  It suprised me when it happened because I have my hotbars memorized and set their opacity to the point they are invisible.  I kept hitting the buttons while my guy stood there watching the mob whack away at me.  *sigh*

[KBern]

<p>I was wondering what the heck was going on.</p><p>Please revert this change or make it an option.</p>

[Snowdonia]

Yes please. I was wondering for the longest time why I was missing two hotkeys right after patch and thought that something really untoward was happening. When I figured out it was merely removing my old blessing/miracle icons I was relieved but didn't like finding those icons missing without notification.Even if the mechanic is intended and isn't going to be put back, at least put in a notification stating "suchandsuch has been removed from your hotbar." to flash at us letting us know it's gone.

[Rijacki]

I, too, got hit by this yesterday when I changed my achievements and I agree that it was bloody annoying.I know they're trying to make it "easier" so that you don't try to cast something you no longer have, but... it makes it hard to remember how you had your hot bar set up since I'm sure we have our set-ups for specific reasons. I forgot what was in one of my spots and it was auto-populated by something that got selected before the usual one.  It wasn't until I was in mid-battle that I realised what was missing from that spot and had to hunt for it. (Tashiana, as a point of reference.. something rather important at the start of battle)One possible work-around is to make the dependent ones into macros and have the macro on your hot bar, but that's a completely in-elegant solution since it doesn't show how many uses you have left for charged or stacked items.

[Trilarian-2]

Please press UNDO with this last update...This is maddening...  Not only skills but items dissappear when they run out instead of letting you pick up more and keep using them.  There is absolutely no reason this should of been implemented in the first place.  The old way, icons were shaded if the ability/item was not available.  Why break a working system?

[feldon30]

I wondered why tradeskill recipes kept disappearing from my hotbar. Please UNDO!

[Zoltaroth]

This isn't happening for me on either Development Servers or Test Server.  Is this still happening for you folks?  If so can you give me any additional details that might help?

[Anekuh]

<cite>Zoltaroth wrote:</cite><blockquote>This isn't happening for me on either Development Servers or Test Server.  Is this still happening for you folks?  If so can you give me any additional details that might help?</blockquote>It's happening. I've lost my miracle icon when I've used the miracle.

[Autenil]

<cite>Anekuh wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zoltaroth wrote:</cite><blockquote>This isn't happening for me on either Development Servers or Test Server.  Is this still happening for you folks?  If so can you give me any additional details that might help?</blockquote>It's happening. I've lost my miracle icon when I've used the miracle.</blockquote>Hi guys,We've managed to reproduce the problem with miracles/AAs and are working on a solution.  Thanks for pointing this out.  It was obviously unintended and I apologize.

[Draco the Grey]

<p>I think with the cure changes, someone added in a bit of "helpful" code to clear away the no longer available 'Cure X' spells when you logged in.  Unfortunately it had the side effect of also clearing out "unavailable" AA abilities, item links, miracles, etc. when you zone or log in.  I had to turn all my AA abilities into macros to keep half of them from disappearing every time I changed AA specs.  Perhaps the code has already been removed on the Test and Dev servers, but it is definitely active on live.</p><p> Edit:  Hehe, looks like they got it figured out while I was typing this...</p>

[Anekuh]

<cite>Autenil wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Anekuh wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zoltaroth wrote:</cite><blockquote>This isn't happening for me on either Development Servers or Test Server.  Is this still happening for you folks?  If so can you give me any additional details that might help?</blockquote>It's happening. I've lost my miracle icon when I've used the miracle.</blockquote>Hi guys,We've managed to reproduce the problem with miracles/AAs and are working on a solution.  Thanks for pointing this out.  It was obviously unintended and I apologize.</blockquote>Np. Glad I could help.

[BK613]

I don't know about anyone else but for the longest time TS recipe icons dragged to the hotbar during a previous session are "invisible"  upon loading a toon.  That is, they are there, just not drawn being there, and scrolling to another bar and back causes them to be drawn. Put another way:1. I camp with 4 hotbars full of recipe icons , organized to speed up rush orders. These are the ones that are scrolled to the front at logout.2. I log in to find the hotbars look empty, but mousing over a button will give a tooltip about that recipe.3. Switching to another hotbar using the scroll bar and back causes the icons to be drawn.(Note I also put my TS skills on two of the hotbars but those icons are not affected by this bug.)

[Rothgar]

We're aware of the issue with recipe icons disappearing on toolbars and should hopefully have a fix for it soon.

[Kesslaar]

<p>Think I might have a related problem.</p><p>When I logged into game (AB server - live) tonite all the AA ability buttons were missing from the hotbars of my 80 Trouby. </p><p> In addition all his AA points had been reset so he had 132 Unspent AA points. </p><p>Now clearly I did not respec all those points before I logged out 48 hours ago and in the past when I have used a respec the ability buttons have just gone dark and not been deleted. So I figure its another part of the bug you are running down.</p>

[Trilarian-2]

Thanks for the update, and it is good to know this was not intentional.  I was fearing that with the recent dumbing down of the cure system that our hotbars were being dumbed down too.  Some of us actually enjoy setting things up manually and customizing.  :)

[feldon30]

Instead of trying to add some complicated conditional code, I would just back out the whole idea of "cleaning up" hotbars for the user. Let us do it please! Sometimes the easiest solution is the best.