LU45 - PVP BUG

[TheLastB]

<p>hostage and spell scourge do not work on a target that is not engaged.....</p>

[ShesSoSurreal]

I have found that it is difficult to get these reactives to trigger properly in pvp at all and when they do trigger it is for no where near the amount listed in the pvp version of the spell. It is very frustrating when 80% of my dmg is unreliable. It's bad enough that I had to respec just to get the melee ability from the Str line when I do not want that line at all. Sure, it triggers in group situations but I need to be able to set off my own reactives. Pvping with the new changes has been tough for a few reasons; for example, aside from unreliable reactives,  hostage now breaks mez (I don't remember this ever being discussed on the forums as a result from the changes to the spell) which has gotten me killed a few times.I am doing good damage in pve, but I think the pvp side of the revamp is a little off.

[Ibunubi]

<cite>Alura@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have found that it is difficult to get these reactives to trigger properly in pvp at all and when they do trigger it is for no where near the amount listed in the pvp version of the spell. It is very frustrating when 80% of my dmg is unreliable. It's bad enough that I had to respec just to get the melee ability from the Str line when I do not want that line at all. Sure, it triggers in group situations but I need to be able to set off my own reactives. Pvping with the new changes has been tough for a few reasons; for example, aside from unreliable reactives,  hostage now breaks mez (I don't remember this ever being discussed on the forums as a result from the changes to the spell) which has gotten me killed a few times.I am doing good damage in pve, but I think the pvp side of the revamp is a little off. </blockquote>Did you have Tyrannous Mind and/or Spell Curse up when you casted Hostage? I haven't had Hostage break mez.

[ShesSoSurreal]

Yes, I had Spell Curse up. But Hostage by itself should not be doing damage, no? So why would it break mez? I know part of my problem is getting used to a new casting order and such but... I don't see why Hostage would do that. Even if spell curse triggers off of non-hostile spells (Which I didn't even think of) It is supposed to trigger off of 3 spells, not one. Mez - Spell Curse- Hostage and then Mez would break. I honestly didn't go back to see if it was hostage or Spell curse breaking mez, I was too [Removed for Content] off that I was dying <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  [I'm probably the only coercer who wasn't complaining about the class 24/7 so I think I'm overall aggravated with the changes because I was comfortable with the class, but that doesn't change the fact that Pre-update I was fine in pvp and now I'm getting killed by greens constantly /endrant <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />]

[Illine]

<p>If you mezz then cast spell scourge then hostage ... spell scourge will proc on hostage (convulsion) since hostage is a hostile or maybe damage spell, I don't know how it is concidered.</p><p>Yeah in a way before you could mezz then cast all you procs and then attack ... now if hostage, spell scourge proc on each other ... it sucks <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />. Should it proc?</p>

[brentk77]

So far i am loving the changes of LU 45.  It just took a little time to get my pvp spell casts in order.  Just waiting for the cries of nerf coercers now from all the other classes =)

[Illine]

<p>Sure I've never killed mobs that fast.</p><p>we'll be solo gods :p ... I never realised how our procs were powerfull when they completely proc.</p><p>Down side is that now the recast is sooooo long and in solo, group or in raid, you just finish to cast the spell that it's already gone <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Roald]

<p>I've noticed this bug too. If they're gonna cut our reactive damage in half, at least make them actually proc.</p><p><cite>Earar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Sure I've never killed mobs that fast.</p><p>we'll be solo gods :p ... I never realised how our procs were powerfull when they completely proc.</p><p>Down side is that now the recast is sooooo long and in solo, group or in raid, you just finish to cast the spell that it's already gone <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote>I'm glad you're having fun killing NPCs, but this thread is about a PvP bug.

[Brook]

Do we get the summon servant on pvp?  I got the pet shrink but didn't see the other.

[Roald]

<cite>Brook wrote:</cite><blockquote>Do we get the summon servant on pvp?  I got the pet shrink but didn't see the other.</blockquote>We get both, I believe.

[Brook]

They changed Call Servant to lvl15 instead of 10, thats why I didnt see it. Notes said 10 but must have been last minute change.