SK Mythical Epic still not discovered on 4 servers

[Lord Hackenslash]

<p>So I was looking to see on my server Splitpaw if anyone has discovered our Epic. Not surprisingly 4 servers have not yet had our Mythical discovered. there are 4 guilds on my server doing VP and none of them Want an SK. My raid force no longer lets me bring my SK they keep asking me not to quit the game cause we are friends but frankly they can not justify my place in a raid. I have nothing to offer the other 23 people. We use a Guardian as MT. Paladin as OT. Sometimes a berzerker as OT. I have nothing to offer a raid that those 3 classes cannot do better than me with less equipment. They want me around cause we have been friends but they just cant find a reason to give me a spot in the raid force.</p><p>I wouldn't if I were them either.</p><p>Thank you.</p>

[kickmyd0g]

<p>UK is doing VP, we're currently stuck on Nexona but hopefully dead tomorrow so I'm hoping to get my mythical before AoC is released.</p><p>The only reason why I'll be able to get it is because the guild leader is a RL friend of mine</p>

[Ocello]

I find this quite hilarious actually, in a pitiful sort of way. I think the SK class is the worst class in the game, period. And that is BULLCRAP.There should not be a "worst class" in a game that has so many classes and balancing issues.Everyone knows this, what the heck are the Devs waiting for?  They fixed coercers, fair enough.  But cmon, SOE, SK is almost a dead class, and it is one of the most loved classes in the game, dating all the way back to original EQ.I've seen precious few SK's who I even care to group with in all my 3+ years of EQ2.  I even had an SK for awhile, and hated it enough to sell it.The problem is the same as the Monk had awhile ago.  Then they had their DPS increased (with Dev Fist) and given the raidwide Haste.  Give the SK's the same thing (Make HT the same as Dev Fist as well as a better raidwide buff), they deserve it too.And for that matter, make ALL tank classes have better DPS.  Tanking is easily the hardest thing to do in EQ2, and it is thankless.  Don't give me this balancing and OP bs, a warrior hitting you with a sword is going to hurt just as much as a scout hitting you with one.  And if you are PvP and you dont like that idea, Get Teh Fudge Out we hate you.

[Phank]

<p>Developers need to wake the heck up and read in between the lines here!  It's obvious that everyone knows HOW to complete the Mythical version of Bloodmoon.  Problem is, there are a handful of Raiding SKs per server.  I know there are only 3 on my server.  Obviously NONE on the servers without disco yet.  It's unacceptable.  </p><p>It's ignorance at its worst.</p><p>Devs should be embarassed by the state of the Shadowknight class.</p>

[Pimmy]

<p>Makes my heart bleed to read this. I will still play my SK whatever happens. But still I will come here once in a while to take a stab at the stupid devs and idiots at SOE. Thank you for f.u-c-k*i,n.g my favorite class from EQ1.</p>

[nirate]

<cite>Melina@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>4 servers have not yet had our Mythical discovered.</p><p>There are 4 guilds on my server doing VP and none of them Want an SK. </p><p>My raid force no longer lets me bring my SK, I wouldn't if I were them either.</p><p>I have nothing to offer the other 23 people. </p></blockquote>QFE

[nirate]

<p>Just for fun I decided to take a look at the two top guilds on the two servers I play on, unrest and permafrost. Not suprisingly, none of them use a SK</p><p>Confirmed - Unrest ( <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/guilds/guild_profile.vm?guildId=2098105" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...guildId=2098105</a> )Shadow Knight: 0 </p><p>Ascendant - Unrest ( <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/guilds/guild_profile.vm?guildId=1604105" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...guildId=1604105</a> )Shadow Knight: 0 </p><p>Defiance - Permafrost ( <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/guilds/guild_profile.vm?guildId=1028202" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...guildId=1028202</a> )Shadow Knight: 0  </p><p>Cataclysm - Permafrost ( <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/guilds/guild_profile.vm?guildId=1464202" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...guildId=1464202</a> )Shadow Knight: 0  </p><p>Numbers don't lie SOE, SKs are the least desired class now, fix it.</p>

[Nor]

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[Mr. Dawki]

<p>As of 5/16/08 Lvl 80 population</p><p>Guard - 2699 (<--op much?)</p><p>Zerk - 1904</p><p>Pally - 1834</p><p>SK - 1691</p><p>17% bellow average</p><p>Anyone else not supprised?</p><p>I heard a funny joke the other day "You can't spell suck without SK"</p>

[Razlath]

<cite>Melina@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So I was looking to see on my server Splitpaw if anyone has discovered our Epic. Not surprisingly 4 servers have not yet had our Mythical discovered. </p></blockquote>I am going to feel like a newbie for this question, but how do you check this?  Just curiousity more than anything else.

[Soefje]

<cite>Mr. Dawkins wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>As of 5/16/08 Lvl 80 population</p><p>Guard - 2699 (<--op much?)</p><p>Zerk - 1904</p><p>Pally - 1834</p><p>SK - 1691</p><p>17% bellow average</p><p>Anyone else not supprised?</p><p>I heard a funny joke the other day "You can't spell suck without SK"</p></blockquote>I wonder how many of these 1691 SK don't play?

[Mr. Dawki]

At least 1 does not, my 80 SK has not been touched since he hit 80 other than helping some other alts pwr lvl.

[Mogzilla]

<p>Bruisers are even fewer then sk's at 80.</p><p>Bruiser 1681</p><p>Sk         1691</p><p>Bruiser/SK's are the most raid gimped classes in the game.</p>

[Shoutatchickens]

For clarification: I tihnk we all understand that with 24 classes there will be a 24th ranked on the most played. I think the problem is not being at the bottom, rather it is the reason SK is at the bottom. I think it's hard to say that SK shouldn't be at the bottom, it should be class [x]. But, on the other hand, and what I think is being argued, is that every class should at least have some sort of place in a Raid. There should be at least some benefiet of having a certain class in a Raid, and apparently people are saying that there is no benefit of having a SK at all.

[Shirodan]

<p>This sucks to read. I have a 71 SK I haven't touched in probably 6 months. I love the premise of the SK class, the concept of the evil knight, but when put into practice he is horrible in comparison to just about any other class in their respective fields. Its a shame that after nearly a decade of making MMORPGs SOE hasn't learned that "Jack of nearly all trades, and master of none" isn't a fair approach to any class. Every class needs a specialty, or a perk that only they have and that no other can do better. The SK does not have such a thing.</p><p>Several other classes can tank better than SKs.</p><p>Several other classes can dps better than SKs.</p><p>Several other classes tank AND dps better than SKs.</p><p>And thats about the only two things we can conceivably do.</p>

[Tiberuis]

<cite>Shirodan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This sucks to read. I have a 71 SK I haven't touched in probably 6 months. I love the premise of the SK class, the concept of the evil knight, but when put into practice he is horrible in comparison to just about any other class in their respective fields. Its a shame that after nearly a decade of making MMORPGs SOE hasn't learned that "Jack of nearly all trades, and master of none" isn't a fair approach to any class. Every class needs a specialty, or a perk that only they have and that no other can do better. The SK does not have such a thing.</p><p>Several other classes can tank better than SKs.</p><p>Several other classes can dps better than SKs.</p><p>Several other classes tank AND dps better than SKs.</p><p>And thats about the only two things we can conceivably do.</p></blockquote><p>SK's are not currently balanced with the other Plate Tank classes.   It is not even close.</p><p>We can't Tank, or DPS, as well as the other Plate Tank classes, especially in a raid environment.  This much is transparent.  If anyone requires any clarification of that point, please read the hundreds of posts in these SK forums with all of the requisite evidence to support.</p><p>Having pointed out the obvious problem of class balance here (sorry about that), what else can SK's offer to a raid?  Absolutely <u>nothing</u> that other classes can't do much better than an SK.  Period.</p><p>SOE needs to seriously fix the SK class, to achieve balance with the other Plate Tank classes.  ROK has been out for 6 months now, come on folks.  Let's get this obvious problem fixed, please.</p><p>I'll bet over 1000 of those global SK's are Alts...</p>

[Shirodan]

<cite>Tiberuis wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Shirodan wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This sucks to read. I have a 71 SK I haven't touched in probably 6 months. I love the premise of the SK class, the concept of the evil knight, but when put into practice he is horrible in comparison to just about any other class in their respective fields. Its a shame that after nearly a decade of making MMORPGs SOE hasn't learned that "Jack of nearly all trades, and master of none" isn't a fair approach to any class. Every class needs a specialty, or a perk that only they have and that no other can do better. The SK does not have such a thing.</p><p>Several other classes can tank better than SKs.</p><p>Several other classes can dps better than SKs.</p><p>Several other classes tank AND dps better than SKs.</p><p>And thats about the only two things we can conceivably do.</p></blockquote><p>SK's are not currently balanced with the other Plate Tank classes.   It is not even close.</p><p>We can't Tank, or DPS, as well as the other Plate Tank classes, especially in a raid environment.  This much is transparent.  If anyone requires any clarification of that point, please read the hundreds of posts in these SK forums with all of the requisite evidence to support.</p><p>Having pointed out the obvious problem of class balance here (sorry about that), what else can SK's offer to a raid?  Absolutely <u>nothing</u> that other classes can't do much better than an SK.  Period.</p><p>SOE needs to seriously fix the SK class, to achieve balance with the other Plate Tank classes.  ROK has been out for 6 months now, come on folks.  Let's get this obvious problem fixed, please.</p><p><b>I'll bet over 1000 of those global SK's are Alts...</b></p></blockquote>Or retired.

[Skeleton]

<p>I guess SOE just considers SKs "an alt class". I mean, if you look at the number of total SKs any level (im too lazy to do it myself), I'm shure it  compares to the rest of the classes.  Everyone and their mother has a low lvl SK to "kick around" when they are bored. So, why would SOE want to change an alt class to improve their raiding usefullness? I'm just trying to think what SOE is thinking. </p>

[Shirodan]

<cite>Skeleton@Everfrost wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I guess SOE just considers SKs "an alt class". I mean, if you look at the number of total SKs any level (im too lazy to do it myself), I'm shure it  compares to the rest of the classes.  Everyone and their mother has a low lvl SK to "kick around" when they are bored. So, why would SOE want to change an alt class to improve their raiding usefullness? I'm just trying to think what SOE is thinking. </p></blockquote>I know exactly what they're thinking..... "Working as intended."

[Levatino]

upped a thread about it, was considered being a necro and now it's closed cause old threads must die out.. wow they do hate sk's*shakes head in disbelieve*but yeah bardspeed is more important then giving us sk's a bit of love..