SK Mythical vs Berserker Mythical - obvious imbalance

[Phank]

<p>I feel this is comparing apples with apples here.  Both Effects come from Plate Fighter Mythicals.  Both Effects end result is hate gained.</p><p>Berserker with Dragon's Temper equipped will regen health without effort, without using Power, without relying on a proc to gain hate.</p><p><img src="http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/740/temperiq5.jpg" alt="" width="272" height="48" border="0" /></p><p>Shadowknights using Bloodmoon, on the other hand, have to reply on Seething Hatred to proc, then once on have to use Power casting Lifetaps (or CAs for Grim Strike, Reaver.)  Hate is only gained with the SK if not at full health.  For a good majority of SKs raiding Kunark, they are not in a tanking role most of the time.  Therefore, the Effect is useless.  In a crunch, spike damage does not for Seething Hatred unless the SK is purposefully taking damage via various gear procs that will drain life from SK only to regain life and hatred via lifetaps/Seething Hatred.  This is a very complex set of variables in order for the Shadowknight to gain hate.</p><p><img src="http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/4308/bloodmoonwo9.jpg" alt="" width="272" height="136" border="0" /></p><p>Suggestion for fix: Have Seething Hatred be a permanent effect -OR- have the DAMAGE from lifetaps be applied as hate to targets.</p>

[Tiberuis]

<p>Why would you want your Mythical Class Weapon Ability to work all the time like the other plate tank classes?</p><p>Why are you not happy with your Mythical Class Weapon Ability only working off a percentage proc chance?</p><p>j/k</p><p>/sigh</p><p>Just further evidence of how gimped we are on itemization, just another catagory to rate us dead last place, amoungst plate tanks, in.</p>

[seamus]

<cite>Phank wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I feel this is comparing apples with apples here.  Both Effects come from Plate Fighter Mythicals.  Both Effects end result is hate gained.</p><p>Berserker with Dragon's Temper equipped will regen health without effort, without using Power, without relying on a proc to gain hate.</p><p><img src="http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/740/temperiq5.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="272" height="48" /></p><p>Shadowknights using Bloodmoon, on the other hand, have to reply on Seething Hatred to proc, then once on have to use Power casting Lifetaps (or CAs for Grim Strike, Reaver.)  Hate is only gained with the SK if not at full health.  For a good majority of SKs raiding Kunark, they are not in a tanking role most of the time.  Therefore, the Effect is useless.  In a crunch, spike damage does not for Seething Hatred unless the SK is purposefully taking damage via various gear procs that will drain life from SK only to regain life and hatred via lifetaps/Seething Hatred.  This is a very complex set of variables in order for the Shadowknight to gain hate.</p><p><img src="http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/4308/bloodmoonwo9.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="272" height="136" /></p><p>Suggestion for fix: Have Seething Hatred be a permanent effect -OR- have the DAMAGE from lifetaps be applied as hate to targets.</p></blockquote><p>[Removed for Content] was I thinking?</p><p>I'd suggest comparing the SK mythical with the Guardian mythical. The Guardian mythical is ... perfect. It makes the best plate tank in the game mucho grande.</p>

[Phank]

I guess nobody else cared to voice their disgust, again, with this comparison.

[Jurmoon]

<cite>Phank wrote:</cite><blockquote>I guess nobody else cared to voice their disgust, again, with this comparison.</blockquote><p>A)  We can complain all we want.  Nobody cares.</p><p>B) An overwhelming majority of Shadowknights will never see their mythical weapon   because we aren't welcome on raids.</p>

[Bowser]

Why would they not just make this a passive ability?

[Phank]

<p>Passive ability would help with the problem, but changing it from health returned from lifetap to damage from lifetap would make it much more in line with Berserker.  As I said, unless the SK is using other means (Bloodthirsty Choker, etc.) to lose health on raid they aren't going to work up the hate list on raid with this worthless Effect.</p><p>The effect does ZERO for a raiding SK, and isn't that right in line with all of our other abilities...  total rubbish.</p>

[Pimmy]

<p><span style="font-size: small;font-family: Times New Roman;">Its unbelievable how crappy they made our Mythical epic. :/</span></p>

[Tiberuis]

<p>The latest from EQ2 Stratics Interview :</p><p><b>Venom -</b> <blizzil> When are the mythicals being revamped? <b>Ilucide -</b> We're looking at making some tweaks to the mythical epics in 47. I'm not able to give you specifics regarding what exactly will change at this time, but that's our current plan. So stay tuned! <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p><p>Interesting... </p>