Loot Table from Iztapa Vyx and Ludmilla in Protector Realm buggy

[Faelgalad]

<p>With 10 weeks raiding Protectors twice a week, we have found that the loot is buggy. </p><p>Iztapa has only four drops! As 10+ is the norm in Protectors, seem's that some loot is not connected to the databank and missing. </p><p>Iztapa, 4 Drops only, verified with 20+ Raids. </p><p>Iztapa's Devotion, Resolute Vambraces, Mirrored Armguards, Sorcerous Gloves. </p><p>Missing Loot for Plate Tank, Brawler, Shaman, Druide. </p><p>Ludmilla Fight, 5 drops only, verified on 20+ Raids. </p><p>Envy's Cowl, Light's Hope Breastplate, Snakecharmer's Bamble, Manipulator's Hood, Treasureseekers Band. </p><p>Missing, Brawler Loot, Non-Cleric Healer Loot, Plate Tank Loot. </p><p>Generally spoken, with only an Buckler shield dropping in Protectors, we assume, a Kite/Tower shield is broken, lots of Brawler Stuff also. </p><p>Our Monk and Bruiser are close to quite, as they get nearly nothing from raiding. </p><p>And could you pls. put Subclass Set Breastplate to Ludmilla Fight? Leviathan is not a nice option for Breastplate. Esspecially Crusaders are hampered. Warrior have their Subclass set parts with Block (Helmet) and Parry (Shoulder) in Protectors, and Crusaders have to wait for Leviathan. Btw. our Crusader (SK) asks, why Spell + Combat Art Damage is seperated, so he misses out one ability in comparision to Warrior set.</p><p>Warrior, Block, Parry, Combat Art, Hate Gain</p><p>Crusader, Block, Melee Crit, Combat Art, Spell Bonus. </p>

[Druid03]

what are you talking about? lolneither Iztapa or Ludmilla's loot tables are bugged, they just have 4 and 5 items in itand the items they drop are fine for a t1 raid zone (well ok, both cleric items are lame....but the rest is fine)they already add the chestpiece to VS and OK's loot table, so they are easier to get nowif you look back to EoF, the chestpiece and legs were the last 2 set pieces you were supposed to get (Mayong = Chest, Wuoshi = Pants) and i dont see them changing it.....its their way to add progression to armorit works the same for this expansion, T2 Boss = Pants, T2/T3 Boss = Chest......and for the T4 sets, Phara Dar = Pants, Trakanon = Chest

[Faelgalad]

<p>9x T1 Raidmobs. </p><p>Seven of them have 10+ Items in their Loot table. And two are the exception?</p><p>If Toyota sells seven of nine middle class cars with four seats and two with only one Seat, don't you call this </p><p>an product problem? </p><p>If something is 75% and 25% works different, I call this an bug, design mishappen, engineering error... whatever. </p><p>Both mobs are not easier, in case of Ludmilla harder than others. So why should they have less loot? A hard mob should have more an nicer stuff, as an reward. </p><p>From my point of view, it looks that the design were 10+ Items per mob and two don't have it. </p><p>Also, Itemisation missing hints to this. Missing Kite/Tower Shield and missing Brawler stuff. If something is missing, you can't argue that it isn't there, you take up the hints. </p><p>And Set itemisation is not comparable, as this is crappy subclass set, not the real class set. So, Warrior get their Block-Item on Imzog and Crusader on T2 Endboss, that's what I call genius development. Anyone seen an Van with five wheels lately? Not? So logic rules the world. </p>

[Armironhead]

<cite>Faelgalad wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>With 10 weeks raiding Protectors twice a week, we have found that the loot is buggy. </p><p>Iztapa has only four drops! As 10+ is the norm in Protectors, seem's that some loot is not connected to the databank and missing. </p><p>Iztapa, 4 Drops only, verified with 20+ Raids. </p><p>Iztapa's Devotion, Resolute Vambraces, Mirrored Armguards, Sorcerous Gloves. </p><p>Missing Loot for Plate Tank, Brawler, Shaman, Druide. </p><p>Ludmilla Fight, 5 drops only, verified on 20+ Raids. </p><p>Envy's Cowl, Light's Hope Breastplate, Snakecharmer's Bamble, Manipulator's Hood, Treasureseekers Band. </p><p>Missing, Brawler Loot, Non-Cleric Healer Loot, Plate Tank Loot. </p><p>Generally spoken, with only an Buckler shield dropping in Protectors, we assume, a Kite/Tower shield is broken, lots of Brawler Stuff also. </p><p>Our Monk and Bruiser are close to quite, as they get nearly nothing from raiding. </p><p>And could you pls. put Subclass Set Breastplate to Ludmilla Fight? Leviathan is not a nice option for Breastplate. Esspecially Crusaders are hampered. Warrior have their Subclass set parts with Block (Helmet) and Parry (Shoulder) in Protectors, and Crusaders have to wait for Leviathan. Btw. our Crusader (SK) asks, why Spell + Combat Art Damage is seperated, so he misses out one ability in comparision to Warrior set.</p><p>Warrior, Block, Parry, Combat Art, Hate Gain</p><p>Crusader, Block, Melee Crit, Combat Art, Spell Bonus. </p></blockquote>Man, your lucky! After many many pr fights I am convinced that on that one guy only the snakecharmer's babble drops.  The curse of the RNG?  Makes me believe in seeding numbers, and changing the starting time of raids to assist in drp selection. lol.

[Frigid2000]

<p>The first skeleton in Protector's is the only skeleton without an AoE, and is thus easier. The rest of the skeletons appear to have a massive loot table, because they can also drop set pieces - but also have AoE's, which would make them more difficult.</p><p>Same thing could be said for Ludmilla. She doesn't have a chance to drop set pieces, and thus her loot table looks small. </p><p>If you dont' believe me, go look on lootdb.com.</p><p>Otherwise, ALL mobs in the zone only have 4-6 pieces that are NOT set pieces.</p>

[Killerbee3000]

<p>sure, there are a select few items in pr that are nice, shammy forearms (not the set rubbish, the ones from imzok) or healer neck come to mind for example, but in general much the t1 loot gets muted anyway since progression is all wrong, in my opinion itemiation as a whole needs a complete revamp form ground up.</p><p>anyway to get back to topic, what the op experienced is working as intended even if its wrong.</p>

[Biscuet]

<p>I think their loot tables are jacked, not because of them not dropping something for every class but because we almost get the same loot every time we go.  We've cleared the zone 20 times and have yet to see a Treasureseekers Band.  We get NOTHING but Manipulators hood and Light Hope BP.  Tell me that's normal?  I think not.  This is the same thing with Imzok, we got Protectors Shackle about 95% of the time.</p><p>Biscuet</p>