View Full Version : Petition for Shadow Knight revamp
Wraithcaller
04-25-2008, 09:42 AM
Shadowknight's need some major attention as a class we have posted our concerns till we are blue in the face with not so much as a peep from SoE other than stealth nerfs.Please sign this petition !FIX SKs IN 08/signed
kickmyd0g
04-25-2008, 09:44 AM
FIX SK's IN 08
Xanoth
04-25-2008, 10:10 AM
<span class="postbody">/signed(better content design that REQUIRES more than 1 tank would also be appreciated)</span>
Soefje
04-25-2008, 10:42 AM
FIX SK IN 08/signed
Bruener
04-25-2008, 11:14 AM
<p>FIX SK IN 08</p><p>/signed</p>
gyverxx
04-25-2008, 11:49 AM
Please fix us already. Give us at least something usefull on raids, give us at least the chance to compete with other tanks. My non raiding Bruiser alt can tank and manage agrro better than my t8 raiding SK
Trilarian-2
04-25-2008, 11:51 AM
I'll sign this despite being a WIZ main (SK alt is to young to be worth mentioning).I played a Dark Knight in FFXI for many years that ironicaly had many of the same issues (inability to tank, 2 hand damage subpar to 1 hand dual wielders, not enough gear designed for a hybrid class, etc.). I do plan to eventually level up my SK, but not in a rush since its all downhill once I reach RoK.One ability that was a very nice feature to the FFXI Dark Knight was a spell Dread Spikes. The spell put up a magical field around your character that for a set amount of damage(if the hit wasn't enough to kill you) absorbed all melee attacks back from the mob's hp.
Phank
04-25-2008, 12:01 PM
<p>signed.</p><p>Too bad most old school SKs have moved on to another class, another game or real life.</p>
Colcos
04-25-2008, 12:37 PM
There is a lot of 08 left.... I'm going to narrow that down FIX SK ~ SPRING 08 /signed
akell
04-25-2008, 12:52 PM
/signed
Fidus
04-25-2008, 01:21 PM
<p>/signed</p><p> Please fix our class as I am tired of being laughed at when asking to go on group instances in RoK or Raids.</p>
Vehnic
04-25-2008, 02:15 PM
/signWhile I don't think we need a drastic revamp, we could use a little loving in a couple of areas. I love the idea of how the EQ SK works, but please make it a tad more effective in a raid setting.Please see the "<b>What do Raiding SKs Need</b>" thread.Thank you.
HentaiB
04-25-2008, 02:28 PM
/Signed
Gehemnishthex
04-25-2008, 02:31 PM
/signedPlease just read the first page of posts on the forum, they'll tell you lots of stuff. or just ask. The tradeskill Dev posting about what kind of crafted weapons we liked was just the sort of simple Q&A that can yield results.
devil_hunter
04-25-2008, 02:37 PM
<span class="postbody">FIX SKs IN 08</span>
Ashdaren
04-25-2008, 02:42 PM
<p>/signed</p><p> I play since beta, and i hardly ever post anything.</p><p> Though this post rings a bell to me and as I don't think blind petition help at anything here is at least one thing I want to say about SK : their skill didn't scaled with rok, period</p>
Gehemnishthex
04-25-2008, 02:59 PM
Maybe we need to organize a protest. Get all 10-12 of us out there on a single server in protest
DMIstar
04-25-2008, 03:48 PM
FIX SK's 08/Sign I just hope this isnt going to end like think it will ...... For a clue check out "Dev Post"
Nimbrithil
04-25-2008, 04:24 PM
This problem has plagued ALL the classes that rely heavily on spell casting. My conji went from being number 1 on the parse regualrly to having tom struggle to MAKE the parse. Its partially becuase of changes made to melle skills, weapons and mitigation as well as changes made to the resistances without scaling our spells. It will cycle back eventually I am sure.
Hamervelder
04-25-2008, 04:29 PM
/signedWill it do any good? No. In former times (under the Blackguard regime), a petition thread like this would have shut down immediately. We can't even get the devs to pay enough attention to our class forums to even do that, much less fix our problems. Oh well.... I suppose this is what alts are for. I'll just play my swashbuckler until maybe someday Hell freezes, and a developer gets enough of a clue to fix shadowknights.
Darkc
04-25-2008, 05:04 PM
While I agree we need a fix... I think clearly and honestly identifying "what" needs fixing is even more important. Every fighter class except for guardians are calling for fixes in one way, shape, or form.
BlackPhoenix9
04-25-2008, 05:14 PM
<p>/signed</p><p>hell yeah!</p>
Razlath
04-25-2008, 05:19 PM
<p>/signed</p><p>My preference would be some form of raid focus. I wouldn't mind seeing some group buffage, but I think we are ok there. But please give us a reason to be invited to a raid other than mental illness or *ahem* favors for the raid leader.</p>
Colcos
04-25-2008, 06:36 PM
<cite>Darkc wrote:</cite><blockquote>While I agree we need a fix... I think clearly and honestly identifying "what" needs fixing is even more important. Every fighter class except for guardians are calling for fixes in one way, shape, or form. </blockquote>Copied from a post I made on another threat ~ <span class="postbody"> All I gotta say is; Sony, give us a role on raids. I don't wanna be kinda sorta maybe tanks that could potentially off tank, sit in the caster group to "DPS" or just [Removed for Content] not get invited to raids. Give us purpose, give raid leaders a reason to say, "Hey, where is that Crusader, we need our crusader." as opposed to, "Sorry Mr. Crusader, we have 22 classes that fulfill the necessary roles in this raid, and they do it twice as good as you do, why don't you sit tonight, we'll work you in sometime soon." Although that isn't a direct reflection on my personal experience, I see it happen quite often, I'm lucky, and I consider myself very good at my class. I do get the opportunity to raid, and I'm thankful for it.... but it makes me think, what do crusaders bring to the raid?Raid-leader: What do Crusader's bring to the raid?SK: We can tank! Raid-leader: You could, unfortunately the guardian over there in RoK quested Armor has more defensibility, and holds aggro with ease. Oh yeah and hes gonna outparse you too. SK: Oh... okay, Well then, We can Off tank right? Raid-Leader: Well you could, but that berserker over there with the buckler spec and half your fabled gear can more easily pick up a mob when needed. He's using a buckler with half the protection, yet amazingly he can take a hit better than you can too. Not to mention, he's gonna do more DPS than you too. SK: Well my Death march is sure to give the caster group a nice boost right? Relentless hunger for a couple spell procs, sweet right? Raid-Leader: You call those buffs? Not to mention, If we put a predator in that spot, they will tripple your DPS, haste from the troub and illy, feral from our fury, procs and procs galore for their poisons. While I doubt numbskull conversations like that take place, you see my point? Sony gave us a so called "Epic" AKA "my glorified paperweight" that tells us they want us to tank, sort of. SONY, if you want us to tank, change our Defensive stance to add some shield effectiveness or AGI instead of [Removed for Content] wisdom that barely does jack for our resists. Or if mitigation makes more sense for "Crusaders", let us mitigate a significant amount of damage that gives us ONE advantage over somebody.SONY, if you want us to fill a support/DPS role, Give us buffs that actually matter to raiders, give us something that that really makes people want a sk/pally. Give us Double attack on our AA tree, give us group melee/spell crit increase, give us a way to generate/feed mana in raids. AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, make our epic 2h clicky, and increase our effectiveness while using a 2handed weapon. I don't want to be an overpowered class that everyone starts to flame even more so because now they feel we've been rewarded for nothing.. and they didn't get squat. I just want to know what role SOE intends us to fill, and while you tell us.... excentuate it, improve it, make it obvious. </span>
Loxus
04-25-2008, 06:39 PM
<p>/Signed</p><p>SK's need love too</p><p>Loxus Maul</p><p>80 SK Everfrost.</p>
Loxus
04-25-2008, 06:40 PM
<p>/Signed</p><p>blah double post</p>
DarkSaven
04-25-2008, 07:11 PM
<p>/signed</p><p>Please Fix Shadowknights in spring of 2008 !</p><p>Don't post often, dont complain much, learned to live with it for goin on 4 years in this game. </p><p>easy fix suggestions : </p><p>make it mandatory for all devs to kill all thier characters in game and make them play shadowkinghts only, see, if SK's get attention.</p>
Echgar
04-25-2008, 07:53 PM
As is stated in the <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=411000" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">forum rules</a>, petitions are not permitted on the forums so I am afraid I need to close this thread.
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