sailwind or reach

[Sluggo]

In a 1v1 duel with all pve survivability aside. Which one would you choose first?sailwind or reachI have about 40aa, can only get 1 for now and put the rest into something else.

[Errolflynn]

Reach, without a doubt.

[Pyzjyn]

Sailwind would increase your DPS though

[Errolflynn]

<cite>Pyzjyn@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Sailwind would increase your DPS though</blockquote>Not by a lot and with reach you can hit him from a distance and he can't hit you.

[Meinen]

<p>sailwind, you get more from the agi line then you would from reach. I love reach, but it can wait if you don't have a lot of AA's.  </p>

[Bloodfa]

I went Sailwind then Reach.  You get a ton of CA's as a Swash, this lets you reuse them so much faster. 

[OutcastBlade]

<p>You cannot rely on reach, although it is very very nice to have in duels. The reason is is because the layout of the duel area is out of your control, especially when fighting against guys with high resists who cannot be snared by you. So with this uncertainty its best to go Sailwind to get the extra dps.</p><p>But consider this... A guardian roots you in place in front of him so he can beat you to a pulp. This also roots him <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> You could use the dark elf shadow jump ability (IF you're a dark elf) to get 10 m away and you will be able to hit him without him hitting you. IN such a case, reach is invaluable. BUT this situation doesnt happen much.</p>

[Errolflynn]

I thought we were just talking about end abilities, in which case I would still take reach over sailwind.If we are talking about AA lines then obviously Agility would be the first line to pick, well it was for me anyway. Followed be either strength or wisdom, actually I wouldn't take wisdom till you could fill it up.

[Faenril]

That guy has only 400 AAs to spend, which means completing one AA line will cost him more than half his AA pull. So I would seriously consider what he gets in the AA line, not only the final AA <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Overall, agi line will bring more than reach. Sailwind is great, it's "general purpose", while reach is mainly useful against melee classes.

[b0nehead]

<p>aaaaaw, they have 1v1 duels on Everfrost, how cute.</p><p>bluebie-knocking aside, consider that Reach only includes CAs, not AA damage.</p>

[Errolflynn]

I think you will find that it covers AA as well or it did the last time I looked, unless there was stealth nerf.With reach:CA 9m rangeAA 5m range

[b0nehead]

<cite>Errolflynn@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think you will find that it covers AA as well or it did the last time I looked, unless there was stealth nerf.With reach:CA 9m rangeAA 5m range</blockquote><p>ok, what I should have said was that in order to make the best use of Reach, that is, to be out of range of most of your enemys CAs, you will lose your AA damage. </p><p>It doesn't matter so much in the pvp ruleset, as fights are over generally very quickly, but iirc the pve duel setup up allows for much longer fights where AA damage would count for a lot more. </p>

[Errolflynn]

<cite>Jharak@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Errolflynn@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think you will find that it covers AA as well or it did the last time I looked, unless there was stealth nerf.With reach:CA 9m rangeAA 5m range</blockquote><p>ok, what I should have said was that in order to make the best use of Reach, that is, to be out of range of most of your enemys CAs, you will lose your AA damage. </p><p>It doesn't matter so much in the pvp ruleset, as fights are over generally very quickly, but iirc the pve duel setup up allows for much longer fights where AA damage would count for a lot more. </p></blockquote>True. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />As general rule I would say the Rouge AA's are much better value and I wouldn't advice spending in the Swashy tree until you have maxed out the Rogue tree.

[b0nehead]

<cite>Errolflynn@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jharak@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Errolflynn@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote>I think you will find that it covers AA as well or it did the last time I looked, unless there was stealth nerf.With reach:CA 9m rangeAA 5m range</blockquote><p>ok, what I should have said was that in order to make the best use of Reach, that is, to be out of range of most of your enemys CAs, you will lose your AA damage. </p><p>It doesn't matter so much in the pvp ruleset, as fights are over generally very quickly, but iirc the pve duel setup up allows for much longer fights where AA damage would count for a lot more. </p></blockquote>True. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />As general rule I would say the Rouge AA's are much better value and I wouldn't advice spending in the Swashy tree until you have maxed out the Rogue tree.</blockquote><p>For PvE I would agree, but for the PvP ruleset Reach is a must - it's one of the biggest gripes against Swashies because used properly in the right situation it's pretty over-powered. And Advance Warning is [I cannot control my vocabulary] handy too when mages could be critting you for 11k+ :O</p>

[Sluggo]

<cite>Jharak@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>aaaaaw, they have 1v1 duels on Everfrost, how cute.</p><p>bluebie-knocking aside, consider that Reach only includes CAs, not AA damage.</p></blockquote>lol. i used to be on nagafen. After about a year, i got tired of being stressed out about always having to watch my back. Thanks for all of the great replies guys. I think i got the info i need plan a little bit better on my AA's

[b0nehead]

<cite>Sluggo@Everfrost wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Jharak@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>aaaaaw, they have 1v1 duels on Everfrost, how cute.</p><p>bluebie-knocking aside, consider that Reach only includes CAs, not AA damage.</p></blockquote>lol. i used to be on nagafen. After about a year, i got tired of being stressed out about always having to watch my back. Thanks for all of the great replies guys. I think i got the info i need plan a little bit better on my AA's</blockquote>heh, that's what tracking is for <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />