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thial
04-11-2008, 05:28 PM
I was just thinking how in a raid situation this spell would be more useful if we could cast it on a raid member and not just group members cause honestly in a raid situation no one in the  MT group really needs it...opinions?

Wilin
04-11-2008, 05:37 PM
<p>Of course it would be more useful, for exactly the reason you've stated.</p><p>/agree</p>

Kyrsten
04-12-2008, 10:35 AM
I've found it helpful to put Moderate on the Shaman or Cleric in the MT group when raiding, to ensure the mob can be pulled off the healer that much easier should the tank's initial attacks and taunts be resisted. 

thial
04-12-2008, 07:47 PM
I usually wind up doing that to - I was also thinking though if this was a raid buff than all the other hate buffs/transfers would have to be raid wide  also and i just don't see that happening..It was just a thought I had siting at my desk at work waiting to go home and get on EQ.

Kyrsten
04-13-2008, 05:19 PM
<cite>Jdark@Everfrost wrote:</cite><blockquote>I usually wind up doing that to - I was also thinking though if this was a raid buff than all the other hate buffs/transfers would have to be raid wide  also and i just don't see that happening..It was just a thought I had siting at my desk at work waiting to go home and get on EQ.</blockquote>yea, I hear ya...  sure would be nice, wouldn't it? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

Hawk The Slayer
04-15-2008, 08:56 AM
<p>ok guys big question - and this will create a stir</p><p> WHO do you put moderate on when you are MT in a group or a raid</p><p>I have put AA into mine and i have it mastered - soo i put mine on........the healer</p><p>and yet i get squishes moaning that they should have it?? and yet they still grab aggro and die</p><p>your thoughts</p>

thial
04-15-2008, 09:09 AM
in a group setting i put it on a DPS class that needs it usually the one parsing the highes but not swashys or assins mayb the ranger if theres no one else, on a raid usually either dont use it or just throw it on the shammy. In a group i put sustain on the healer

Raahl
04-15-2008, 09:53 AM
<p>I usually put it on a Brigand (if in group) or healers types.</p><p>I'm now hearing that moderate reduces someones hate after they transfer to the MT.  If this is so, I'll probably start putting it on the person transfering hate to me.</p>

Anfauglith
04-15-2008, 10:09 AM
Personaly I always loved to put it on the shaman...on engage if you get bad resist and the shaman puted fully wards you before pull, he's usualy the one who will get pumelled. Moderate makes it easily avoidable.

Oo
04-17-2008, 01:17 PM
I tend to put both Unyielding Vigilance and Sustain on my main healer and Moderate on my highest parsing DPS in group situations (I don't run with a Shaman).  I have always assumed you can stack them?  Should I put the three on three different party members? 

Volkscience
04-17-2008, 01:30 PM
In MT group for raids it goes on the Shaman. Ward aggro can be pretty nasty and with epic orange cons resisting taunts it could make a difference no matter how slight but honestly it rarely comes up. Even if my initial taunts are resisted I'm bound to land a couple shots before it even gets that far. Sentry Watch is good tool for those moments as well.In a group I just stick it on whatever high DPS class that doesn't have good hate feed or dehate. It would be pretty pointless to put it on a Swashbuckler but it would go fine on a Warlock for example. I would not however put AA points into Moderate in either setting.