Name change to the game

[SunakaV]

<p>Wow, the last patch 44 says it all.  This patch is geared for the hard core raiders.  The name of the game should be changed to "Everraid".  The game developers have lost touch to what the game is for, the mass.  If you want to see end game stuff, you have to be in a hard core raid that is raiding almost every day.  The new T8 zones are ungoddly, unless you are fully fable-out.  I pay the same amount to play, yet.... they have gear the whole game only to the raiders.  If you are not fable-out you can't even solo very much at all.  The loot drops in the single group T8 zone is almost pur trash.  Now about the loot, why is it, if you a chain healer, all the healer items are leather?  The loots don't fit the classes very well, and you have to keep going until you get something halfway good.   It's my belief that the game developers have made Everquest only for the hard core raiders, only.  If I'm wrong... than tell me what new contents have be made for the limited time-players that can play that pay the same price to play as the hard core raiders?</p><p>v/r</p><p>Sunaka</p>

[Jrral]

Not sure what game you're playing, but it doesn't sound like EQ2. I'm still in mastercrafted gear (albeit level 77 RoK faction crafted gear) and legendary jewelry and I'm not having any problem with the solo T8 content. Most of the people I run with are geared similarly, and we trio the group content without too many problems. With a few friends we can take COA and VOES without too much trouble, and with a good mezzer Maiden's wouldn't be beyond reach. And we're basically casual players who get a couple-three hours a night of play in and hit the tough stuff once or maybe twice a week. I want to go and farm VOES and COA for class set pieces, that'll make a big difference, but you'll notice you can get those with just a decent group, no raid needed.

[Rainmare]

I'll start with your 'T8 instance loot is pure trash'.Some of the best loot in the game, save the highest endzone content, VP, is from instances. Item's like the Mantle of the Jarsath, Swifttail gi, Queen's gift, Fushia's finery, Praetor's guard, Pentient Greatshield, Arcane Greatwall, Jarsath Robe of Royalty, to name some. the Anaphylaxis quest reward, and the Carotidcutter. the list may not be large enough to outfit every slot, but it's still nothing to sneeze at.single up named in Jarsath Wastes, soloable by anyone, can drop Trooper Scale Boots or the Book of the Immortals. and you hardly need to be 'fabled out' to do them. in fact many of the long lines of SOLO questlines yield very nice legendary rewards, adn the entirely duo/trioable Thugga line yields a VERY nice fabled peice.I know several people that are wearing Mastercrafted gear as well and having no trouble in soloing or doing the T8 instances.this patch, number 44, adds to the game 1 new Raid instance. it adds at least 1 TS quest, there's a small live event that is entirely soloable, it adds the chance for you to apparently get a Warg mount that is probably close to if not equal to the level 80 guild reward mount via a chest/body drop item.they have tried to improve the damage of rangers. they added +ranged to several melee based group buffs.Yes, this update didn't give you more solo content. but since about 2/3 of this EXPANSION is solo content, I don't see really what your [Removed for Content] about there.I think your problem is that for whatever reason, limited playtime, off hour playtime, just crummy PuG luck...your not able to rip through the T8 instances like you want to, and there's nothing 'easier' in the expansion for you. Unrest set the bar for T8. well, Unrest and Shard of Fear.and whenever they get around to putting in Kurn's Tower, I imagine that if you, as it seems, can't do instances like VoES or CoA or CoK or Maidens....then you probably won't be doing Kurn's either.RoK was entirely made for limited time people. there are exactly 7 raid zones in RoK, in flagged tiers. i.e. you can't do Venril Sathir's Lair or Temple of Korsha without completeing Protector's Realm, Executioner's Throne Room, Tomb of Thugga. Can't to chamber of destiny without venril/korsha. can't got to VP without the Chamber.They have crafter epic questline for people that just craft. somewhere close to a hundred quests in Kylong Plains alone, virtually all of them are soloable except for I believe the 3 or so quests in Karnor's Castle.But lets get back to new content. since I'm willing to wager that my rambling about what's available in RoK is probably making you roll your eyes about how I'm not getting it. which is partially right. when an expansion is almost entirely dominated by solo/group content...yes, they are not going to keep pushing out more and more solo/group content. they are going to pushout higher end content, to keep those people that soloed to 80 in the first few weeks busy when they are not running through the instances your finding so tough.as an example, I have a guild group I run with. we raid, yes. but we are far from 'fabled out' and example. our healer has 3 fabled items. I have 4. one of the others has 1. the rest is legendary/mastercrafted. we tear through CoA/CoK/VoES/Maidens in about 2-3 hours.oh, and 'hardcore raiders' does not apply to 'all raiders'. there's this thing called 'casual raiders' these are the raid guilds/raid people that may only raid 3-4 days on the week, and then probably sat and sunday. they don't look to burn through it, they look to enjoy it. if people would stop thinking that the 1-5% of 'raiders' that are actually hardcore, seven days a week, 6 hours a day represent ALL raiders...you might find that your percent between the 'raider' and the 'mass' as you put it is more along the lines of 50/50 or 40/60, respectively. and not nearly so small a portion as you might at first assume.

[LordTuatha]

To OP, I don't why you're having issues but the game is fine (except the stupid technical problems).  I have completed all the quests in Kylong Plains except the KC ones.  I have completed all the quests in the Fens save the one where you need +30k Burynai faction to finish and the main quest line leaves you like 24k short.  I am currently working on the Kunzar line.  I am having fun (save the technical issues again) and in general I love the expansion.  Some quests are downright hilarious, some are happy, some are kind of sad.  The rewards so far are kind of blah but I have good gear from EoF and have only gotten real upgrades to a couple slots.  I have never ever received loot from a raid, I've only been in a few.  You sir are doing something very wrong if you cannot solo.  As to free content, it's not huge, but didn't we just have a couple quests from Bristlebane's day and at least one was introduced from LU 44 right?  I mean like I said it's not a lot but that's just over what 10 days?

[denmom]

<cite>SunakaV wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wow, the last patch 44 says it all.  This patch is geared for the hard core raiders.  The name of the game should be changed to "Everraid".  The game developers have lost touch to what the game is for, the mass.  If you want to see end game stuff, you have to be in a hard core raid that is raiding almost every day.  The new T8 zones are ungoddly, unless you are fully fable-out.  I pay the same amount to play, yet.... they have gear the whole game only to the raiders.  If you are not fable-out you can't even solo very much at all.  The loot drops in the single group T8 zone is almost pur trash.  Now about the loot, why is it, if you a chain healer, all the healer items are leather?  The loots don't fit the classes very well, and you have to keep going until you get something halfway good.   It's my belief that the game developers have made Everquest only for the hard core raiders, only.  If I'm wrong... than tell me what new contents have be made for the limited time-players that can play that pay the same price to play as the hard core raiders?</p><p>v/r</p><p>Sunaka</p></blockquote>In regards to the chain healer and the leather items...it was stated by the dev, Fyreflyte I believe, why there's leather and less per type of class of healer.Found it:  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=395963" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=395963</a>

[Zorastiz]

<p>ROK seems perfectly solo (able) to me as a Necro, I started this Tier in T7 MC gear, at 72 I had a guildy craft T8 MC gear for me. Most of the quest gear I have picked has been slightly below my level or the MC was better but in Kunzar Jungle some of the quests are dead easy solo and you get Legendary gear with lots of nice + spell damage, high INT etc.</p><p>It's basically<b> "You can't please everyone"</b> nobody can please everyone IRL much less in an MMO. Not all instances, zones, Tiers have been ideal for me don't get me wrong but the way I approach things is to make the best of it and so far so good. Is there room for improvement SURE but hey it is what it is work with it, learn from your experiences, failures, rewards etc.</p><p>It's a game, have fun</p>

[Joyful]

To the OP, I hate to say it, but if  you arent happy here then go to another game...I can think of one in particular that caters directly to people who have the same mind set as you. Im not a raider, but I am happy that there is raid content, I am happy that they add new raid content and I am also happy that there is a difference between raiders and casual players..thats why raiding is called "end game" Its for people who, without raiding, would probably be at the end of the game..its for people who, without raiding, would be tired of alts, be tired of TS'ing, who would be tired of doing the same quests over and over. So please, quit complaining. There are plenty of things to do, most of it easily soloable, if you dont want to raid.

[Spaceweed]

<cite>SunakaV wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wow, the last patch 44 says it all.  This patch is geared for the hard core raiders.  The name of the game should be changed to "Everraid".  The game developers have lost touch to what the game is for, the mass.  If you want to see end game stuff, you have to be in a hard core raid that is raiding almost every day.  The new T8 zones are ungoddly, unless you are fully fable-out.  I pay the same amount to play, yet.... they have gear the whole game only to the raiders.  If you are not fable-out you can't even solo very much at all.  The loot drops in the single group T8 zone is almost pur trash.  Now about the loot, why is it, if you a chain healer, all the healer items are leather?  The loots don't fit the classes very well, and you have to keep going until you get something halfway good.   It's my belief that the game developers have made Everquest only for the hard core raiders, only.  If I'm wrong... than tell me what new contents have be made for the limited time-players that can play that pay the same price to play as the hard core raiders?</p><p>v/r</p><p>Sunaka</p></blockquote>Utter rubbish.  This game couldn't be dumbed down any more than it is - well it could, but it wouldn't be getting my subscription.  'WoW' started this 'easy button' mentality to secure subs from mediocre players, and frankly, it is killing this genre.For the love of God, bring back some challenge..

[Khurghan]

I hate to be the one to tell you this but the best loot in the game <i>does not come from raiding</i>...The best loot in the game comes from group instances and stuff that can be killed with 1-2 groups of people and player-made trade-skilled stuff.

[simpwrx02]

<p>The new raid zone has been planed as a counter point to Shard of Fear since SoF was released, it is not something they just decided to make on a whim.  The difficulty of the new raid zone starts off fairly easy, then ramps up On my server anyways there were more than 1 pick up raid killing at least the first name so it most deffinately isn't geared for hardcorter raiders.</p><p>RoK has a crazy amount of solo /group content and despite what you say many raiders that havent been farming VP dfor weeks wear a ton of quest/herioc instance gear oe want it.  I raid a good amount and my guild is workifn in VP as of right now I would want the robe from maidens, the symbol from Vaults, a ring and bracelet from Cheltish, I waer a ring from CoA, both of my current wrists items are drops off of a named in KJ, I use the epic weapon which is a herioc quest, i use a legendary item from Forsaken City as one of my symbols, I use the thugga quest reward for one of my ears, my otehr ring is a legendary item from a quest line in Fallen dynasty or a ring from questing in Fens.  My belt is a faction merchant item, my hat is from a named in Seb, I want shoulders from the shark in JW, I wear forarms /gloves from questing.  Okay so that leaves me with a raid Chest piece I want to upgrade from a herioc instance fabled boot and fabled leggings that are slightly better than legs from Maidens, A raid symbol and a raid gain earring, which I only wear to proc power clickies after I have enouhg I switch to a herico zone legendary item.</p><p>So basically most of my current gear is either "pure trash" from herioc zones or quest rewards and a lot fo upgrades I want are also "pure trash" from herioc zones to replace my raid fabled. </p><p>PS sorry for the wall of text that is paragraph 2.</p><p>If you are limited time , have you finished all the quests? if not then why are you askign for more content when you havent finished the content already out there, as raid guilds have already finished all the raid zones out there.  Also the new contested "raid" mobs are a total joke in difficulty any PuG coudl kill them with no issue with maybee the exception of the KJ one as he is the only one that isnt pure tank and spank you need to learn one thing to know how to be successful against him.</p>

[Savanja]

<cite>SunakaV wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wow, the last patch 44 says it all.  This patch is geared for the hard core raiders.  The name of the game should be changed to "Everraid".  The game developers have lost touch to what the game is for, the mass.  If you want to see end game stuff, you have to be in a hard core raid that is raiding almost every day.  The new T8 zones are ungoddly, unless you are fully fable-out.  I pay the same amount to play, yet.... they have gear the whole game only to the raiders.  If you are not fable-out you can't even solo very much at all.  The loot drops in the single group T8 zone is almost pur trash.  Now about the loot, why is it, if you a chain healer, all the healer items are leather?  The loots don't fit the classes very well, and you have to keep going until you get something halfway good.   It's my belief that the game developers have made Everquest only for the hard core raiders, only.  If I'm wrong... than tell me what new contents have be made for the limited time-players that can play that pay the same price to play as the hard core raiders?</p><p>v/r</p><p>Sunaka</p></blockquote>One patch with raid content and all of the sudden it's "EverRaid"?  We've had solo additions, heroic content additions, why in the world wouldn't they toss in some raid content too?Previous content patches; Darklight Woods and Neriak and Estate of Unrest come to mind.  Game Updates with major content cannot go in everyday and it seems that every now and again they are putting something in, it just happens that THIS time, it's raid content.I actually raid and I'm FAR from being fabled geared.  Do you happen to know why that is?  Doesn't actually seem as though you are aware of what the fabled gear is like in RoK or have any grasp on the true comparison of the various types of gear.Legendary gear is nothing short of awesome.  I replaced nearly all of my T7 fable with simple solo questing.Group instance drops are so good that these are occasionally being held onto by players OVER fabled T8 gear.Not only do I solo (without fully fabled gear), but I also group and raid (without fully fabled gear).  If you can't solo or participate in heroic content, then I'd examine other possibilities for the troubles other than what your char is wearing.

[Rahatmattata]

<cite>SunakaV wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The name of the game should be changed to "Everraid".</p></blockquote>The name of the game should be changed to "Soloquest".Shard of Hate was promised to be a raid instance over 6 months ago when they were talking about releasing Shard of Fear. For whatever reason, it just took this long to get it in. Also it scales from laughably easy to decent challenge afaik. Casual raid guild on my server was able to clear a lot of trash and get some fabled drops from the trash with 9 players and 1 healer.Nice whine though.

[interstellarmatter]

<p>*shakes head*</p><p>Sometimes, I think that people play a different game than me.</p><p>RoK was almost completely geared towards soloers.  They release a raid zone and now it's everraid.  Oh plz, give me a break.</p>

[Zarador]

I think part of it is human nature at play.  I will admit, I don't raid, so it's my fault that I miss some of these places.  With that said, I looked at the preview pictures, ran around and did the quest for fun, then entered the zone and was floored by how amazing the place looks.  Then I checked some of the NPC's and realized they were Epic x4 and realized that I would most likely never see this place short of a pickup raid. I'm not faulting ANYONE but myself for the play style I choose, but I can understand the desire to want to see some scaled down version of the place. At the risk of sounding selfish and being flamed, would it not be nice to have some entrance area with yard trash, just to be able to play in the "Look and feel" of the zone that the Raiders could pass through in a minutes time, yet other players could simply get the thrill.That said, I tend to solo/duo the majority of the time and think they have done a wonderful job of providing content for the non-raider.  This is not at all like Everquest I where it was pretty much early on kill 50 snakes or the Lord of the Castle with little in between.

[Rahatmattata]

Wait... so you want solo mobs in raid instances <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/0a4d7238daa496a758252d0a2b1a1384.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />I think it's fine to have content not everyone will have access too. If you want to see the deepest darkest places of norrath... well then get some friends and kill the biggest baddest bosses to get there.Oh, and I don't raid.

[Zarador]

<cite>Rahatmattata wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wait... so you want solo mobs in raid instances <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/0a4d7238daa496a758252d0a2b1a1384.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />I think it's fine to have content not everyone will have access too. If you want to see the deepest darkest places of norrath... well then get some friends and kill the biggest baddest bosses to get there.Oh, and I don't raid.</blockquote>No, I believe what I suggested was perhaps, in totally unique zones such as these, a "trash" area where one could only go a little bit into the zone, then require a raid force to go further.  Take places like SoS, you can get so far solo, or with a small group, but going further requires a much stronger group.  Just like a dungeon where the difficulty scales up as you get deeper.I don't for a moment support the concept of scaled down boss mobs or raid encounters.  Those are and should always be reserved for Raiding parties.  I guess I just want a taste of the flavor of that zone, nothing more. It's the atmosphere that I crave, not the loots.

[Hamervelder]

Endgame content in EQ2 has always been raid content.  I don't see how LU44 changes that.

[Karlen]

<span class="postbody">>>>One patch with raid content and all of the sudden it's "EverRaid"?  We've had solo additions, heroic content additions, why in the world wouldn't they toss in some raid content too?<<<I was just thinking yesterday about how much better the game is now for people who solo than it was at launch time.I'm content with them adding new raid zones and such, even though I don't raid and only rarely group.   I am still plugging away through the huge amount of solo content that came with the new expansion.There is solo content, group content and raid content.  If you solo, group AND raid, then you can do all the content.  If you only do one or two of the three, then some content may be off limits to you.  That is YOUR choice, not SOEs.</span>