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Rayx
04-08-2008, 09:02 PM
<p>does EQ2 see 3 gigs of ram if windows XP Prof sees 3 gigs of ram?  I really dont want to use the /3GB /PAE switch as that will have adverse effects on the rest of my system.</p><p>I saw this posted somewhere and it doesnt make any sense to me.  Especially considering I dont have Visual Studio on my PC and EQ2 isnt installed in the default folder:</p><p>cd Program FilesMicrosoft Visual Studio 9.0Common7IDE....vcbineditbin /LARGEADDRESSAWARE "c:program filessonyeverquest iieverquest2.exe"</p><p>This is suppose to allow EQ2 to see 3 gigs of ram I just dont know how/what/where to use this and what is required.</p><p> any help on this would be appreciated</p>

TSR-DanT
04-09-2008, 12:07 PM
The game will only see up to 2 gigs of ram.

Openedge
04-09-2008, 01:05 PM
The game is "Large Address Aware". You should enable the /3GB switch as it allows more usage of the 2 gigs that EQ2 will see now..Basically this will allow EQ2 to run comfortably without hitting issues due to background processes and various programs to interfere....Well...this is what Microsoft says anyways...Here is some more info on it...<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEmem.mspx" target="_blank">/3GB switch</a>Now...according to this article, EQ2 should be able to see more memory. But, my thought is that instead of hitting a wall like EQ2 would before (usually the out of memory error said the game ran out at about 1.5 gigs or so when it puked)... if you have 3 gigs, instead of the "programs" or background processes eating into the 2 GB limit of 32 bit windows, and killing EQ2, the game client can survive a memory leak longer than before..So, use the switch...I did, and I am happy now..it has stopped my memory "drip"(Hope this made sense...and until a Dev comes in to explain it better...this is all I got)Thanks(EDIT: TSR-DanT - Seems this data has changed since LU44...check Autenil's post <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=975&topic_id=364955#4622232" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">HERE</a> - Also, he states you MUST add the /3GB to get this to work properly...)

Rayx
04-09-2008, 02:55 PM
<p>Do you use just the /3GB switch?  </p><p>have you noticed any adverse effects in other games?</p><p>would you recommend using "/fastdetect /3GB /Userva=2900" </p><p>Im just afraid that drivers writing to my kernel virtual will exceed the 1 gig mark</p><p>If any devs could help with this Id appreciate some input.  </p>

TSR-DanT
04-09-2008, 03:10 PM
<cite>Openedge wrote:</cite><blockquote>(EDIT: TSR-DanT - Seems this data has changed since LU44...check Autenil's post <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=975&topic_id=364955#4622232" target="_blank">HERE</a> - Also, he states you MUST add the /3GB to get this to work properly...)</blockquote>Good to know!

caliedh
04-15-2008, 01:21 PM
I too would like to know if EQ2 would work with a /userva=2560?  I don't wish to give all 3GB to EQ2 due to video card swap space using up 512MB already, but giving it 2.5GB should be okay.

Zin`Car
04-15-2008, 03:50 PM
<p>you CAN make EQ2 utilize more then 2gb but you MUST alter the EQ2.exe file <i>as well as </i>use the /3GB switch for XP Pro.  I cannot remember atm what the program is you use (has a red chile pepper icon though) to make that alteration but its a pita to mess with.  You have to run the normal game start up (which is everquest2.exe), let it patch whatever needs patching.  DO NOT let the game auto-start or you will lose the chance to make the change.  Then you have to open the editter i mentioned and import the EQ2.exe file.  Make the change necessary to that file switching it from <2 to >2, save and close.  Then hit PLAY on the launch pad as normal and you're off and running with an EQ2 fully accepting >2 of ram.  If you do a search on my name in the tech forums, you will find the information eventually.  i posted about it quite a while ago.</p><p>WARNING:  as you will see with subsequent posts, people tend to get their panties balled up and stuffed in uncomfortable places when you even begin to think about possibly mentioning making any changes to the .exe file.  So, i give this warning in case someone here somehow, someway gets in trouble (which you won't but hey, i'm giving the warning anyway so avoid as much panty bunching as possible), you won't/can't come back and accuse me of putting you in that position.  It's a choice which you AND ONLY YOU can make. i am not behind you with a gun.  i can't make you do anything... except possibly come on here and post subsequent bunched up panty comments...  that i enjoy seeing.  makes me smile.</p><p>Game on!</p>

Miladi
04-15-2008, 05:10 PM
<cite>Luinne@Kithicor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>you CAN make EQ2 utilize more then 2gb but you MUST alter the EQ2.exe file <i>as well as </i>use the /3GB switch for XP Pro.  I cannot remember atm what the program is you use (has a red chile pepper icon though) to make that alteration but its a pita to mess with.  You have to run the normal game start up (which is everquest2.exe), let it patch whatever needs patching.  DO NOT let the game auto-start or you will lose the chance to make the change.  Then you have to open the editter i mentioned and import the EQ2.exe file.  Make the change necessary to that file switching it from <2 to >2, save and close.  Then hit PLAY on the launch pad as normal and you're off and running with an EQ2 fully accepting >2 of ram.  If you do a search on my name in the tech forums, you will find the information eventually.  i posted about it quite a while ago.</p><p>WARNING:  as you will see with subsequent posts, people tend to get their panties balled up and stuffed in uncomfortable places when you even begin to think about possibly mentioning making any changes to the .exe file.  So, i give this warning in case someone here somehow, someway gets in trouble (which you won't but hey, i'm giving the warning anyway so avoid as much panty bunching as possible), you won't/can't come back and accuse me of putting you in that position.  It's a choice which you AND ONLY YOU can make. i am not behind you with a gun.  i can't make you do anything... except possibly come on here and post subsequent bunched up panty comments...  that i enjoy seeing.  makes me smile.</p><p>Game on!</p></blockquote>You shouldn't need to hack the exe file any longer and risk getting banned for it. The game should already have the large memory aware flag set on it after the latest GU.

Zin`Car
04-15-2008, 05:42 PM
<cite>Miladian wrote:</cite><blockquote>You shouldn't need to hack the exe file any longer and risk getting banned for it. </blockquote><p>the first person to make me smile.  Hope you aren't sitting too uncomfortablely...</p><blockquote>The game should already have the large memory aware flag set on it after the latest GU.</blockquote>one way to find out for sure...  i'll post a screen shot later when i remember what that program was.

Zin`Car
04-15-2008, 06:04 PM
<cite>Miladian wrote:</cite><blockquote>The game should already have the large memory aware flag set on it after the latest GU.</blockquote><p>Well, i remembered what the program was.  Now, i am not sure where anyone got the idea that SOE made the change...  because they didn't.  One way or another, you were dreadfully misinformed.</p><p>screenshot for proof.  Enjoy!</p><p><img src="http://home.neo.rr.com/reaver/3gb_FAIL.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="1680" height="1050" /></p>

Openedge
04-15-2008, 09:21 PM
<cite>Luinne@Kithicor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Miladian wrote:</cite><blockquote>The game should already have the large memory aware flag set on it after the latest GU.</blockquote><p>Well, i remembered what the program was.  Now, i am not sure where anyone got the idea that SOE made the change...  because they didn't.  One way or another, you were dreadfully misinformed.</p><p>screenshot for proof.  Enjoy!</p></blockquote>That is the wrong EXEHere is the correct one<img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/openedge1/SAVGYkGPE1I/AAAAAAAACXc/Z7TmNFedXxs/s800/EQ2Mem.jpg?authkey=CpUHNVIwEQw#5189631533434999634" alt="" border="0" />It is aware nowThanks

Miladi
04-16-2008, 12:12 AM
<cite>Openedge wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Luinne@Kithicor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Miladian wrote:</cite><blockquote>The game should already have the large memory aware flag set on it after the latest GU.</blockquote><p>Well, i remembered what the program was.  Now, i am not sure where anyone got the idea that SOE made the change...  because they didn't.  One way or another, you were dreadfully misinformed.</p><p>screenshot for proof.  Enjoy!</p></blockquote>That is the wrong EXEHere is the correct one<img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/openedge1/SAVGYkGPE1I/AAAAAAAACXc/Z7TmNFedXxs/s800/EQ2Mem.jpg?authkey=CpUHNVIwEQw#5189631533434999634" border="0" alt="" />It is aware nowThanks</blockquote>Thanks Openedge for confirming what we were told in the GU notes.My post stating the possible ban was not for your amusement Zin'Carla (Luinne) it was a statement of fact, altering that flag before they did it was spoken about in these forums for quite some time and people were warned that it could lead to a suspension or banning. I highly doubt that they would have done it, just saying they could have. But as of right now, its totally unnecessary to try and alter it. BTW, before you insult someone with your "intelligence" try making sure that your examples are the right ones. Posting a screenshot of the unaltered eq2.exe file was kind of laughable considering it doesn't run the game.