yet another newbe question

[darxar]

sorry guys, I did not want to clutter the newbe board with this, since its more about the class, and yall (im from the south) seem to be so helpful.I have been pushing alot of AGI stats, however seems like I need balance.   most of the leather armor i see seems to have AGI more than STR, and the Chain armor has more STR/STA than AGI and much, much better defense.I was under the impression that AGI is where we try and focus, however, I have dropped a few leather armor that had some AGI..  +2 or +4 in some cases to get +5 or +6 in STR and STA plus alot more defense, now my over all AGI has not gone down that much, but my STR/STA has risen alot.I guess what im trying to figure out is , I know we need AGI, but STR and STA with the armor boost of Chain.   is this good, or should I just stick with AGI at the cost of boosting my def.    for example the Chest i was using (leather) had +4 agi and some other stuff, its def was like 40 i think, but the Chain chest i now have has no agi, but +6str, +6sta and is like 77 def.  I seem to be able to take alot more damage especially with adds...   but im not sure if this is the best way.   I need some help understanding how to balance my AGI addiction with knowing i need defense and STR/STA to help me do damage.please help.

[yzyh]

<cite>darxar wrote:</cite><blockquote>sorry guys, I did not want to clutter the newbe board with this, since its more about the class, and yall (im from the south) seem to be so helpful.I have been pushing alot of AGI stats, however seems like I need balance.   most of the leather armor i see seems to have AGI more than STR, and the Chain armor has more STR/STA than AGI and much, much better defense.I was under the impression that AGI is where we try and focus, however, I have dropped a few leather armor that had some AGI..  +2 or +4 in some cases to get +5 or +6 in STR and STA plus alot more defense, now my over all AGI has not gone down that much, but my STR/STA has risen alot.I guess what im trying to figure out is , I know we need AGI, but STR and STA with the armor boost of Chain.   is this good, or should I just stick with AGI at the cost of boosting my def.    for example the Chest i was using (leather) had +4 agi and some other stuff, its def was like 40 i think, but the Chain chest i now have has no agi, but +6str, +6sta and is like 77 def.  I seem to be able to take alot more damage especially with adds...   but im not sure if this is the best way.   I need some help understanding how to balance my AGI addiction with knowing i need defense and STR/STA to help me do damage.please help.</blockquote><p>1) why are you using leather ? This is EQ2 not WoW. Use Chain Armor</p><p>2) Why are you getting agi ? agi is a tank stats go for +str (agi only boost your dmg mitigation and help a bit for your powerpool wich is useless till higher lvl) Also defence are not that needed. (just go the str line and spend 8AP to get the rank8 of our +def Achievement point)</p><p>3) stats you need for DPS are  Str and int (int boost your poison dmg and effectiveness). Sta is nice for soloing but you can do without. A nice thing to do is to buy a mirror (15g or so) and keep 2 spec. 1for soloing and 1for grouping.  str/agi for group. str/sta for solo (and 4/4 in agifor Walk the plank)</p><p>P.S. I have foudn that getting to low armor items in the favor of +str hurted my soloing ability a lot. loosing 100-200armor to gain an extra 8-9str doesn't worth it at some point for a soloer. Keep that in mind.</p><p>personaly I do ensure that my mitigation is good then I get the best +str, +int tiemt hat I can put my hand on.</p>

[darxar]

<cite>yzyh wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>darxar wrote:</cite><blockquote>sorry guys, I did not want to clutter the newbe board with this, since its more about the class, and yall (im from the south) seem to be so helpful.I have been pushing alot of AGI stats, however seems like I need balance.   most of the leather armor i see seems to have AGI more than STR, and the Chain armor has more STR/STA than AGI and much, much better defense.I was under the impression that AGI is where we try and focus, however, I have dropped a few leather armor that had some AGI..  +2 or +4 in some cases to get +5 or +6 in STR and STA plus alot more defense, now my over all AGI has not gone down that much, but my STR/STA has risen alot.I guess what im trying to figure out is , I know we need AGI, but STR and STA with the armor boost of Chain.   is this good, or should I just stick with AGI at the cost of boosting my def.    for example the Chest i was using (leather) had +4 agi and some other stuff, its def was like 40 i think, but the Chain chest i now have has no agi, but +6str, +6sta and is like 77 def.  I seem to be able to take alot more damage especially with adds...   but im not sure if this is the best way.   I need some help understanding how to balance my AGI addiction with knowing i need defense and STR/STA to help me do damage.please help.</blockquote><p>1) why are you using leather ? This is EQ2 not WoW. Use Chain Armor</p><p>2) Why are you getting agi ? agi is a tank stats go for +str (agi only boost your dmg mitigation and help a bit for your powerpool wich is useless till higher lvl) Also defence are not that needed. (just go the str line and spend 8AP to get the rank8 of our +def Achievement point)</p><p>3) stats you need for DPS are  Str and int (int boost your poison dmg and effectiveness). Sta is nice for soloing but you can do without. A nice thing to do is to buy a mirror (15g or so) and keep 2 spec. 1for soloing and 1for grouping.  str/agi for group. str/sta for solo (and 4/4 in agifor Walk the plank)</p><p>P.S. I have foudn that getting to low armor items in the favor of +str hurted my soloing ability a lot. loosing 100-200armor to gain an extra 8-9str doesn't worth it at some point for a soloer. Keep that in mind.</p><p>personaly I do ensure that my mitigation is good then I get the best +str, +int tiemt hat I can put my hand on.</p></blockquote>thanks, im not wearing leather, anymore, i had up till around 11-12, but im 14 now and using the chain .  thanks for keeping on the right path, i did not want to invest in the wrong stuff.    I will look for this.. "mirror" thing..  what is it, is it something that allows me to quickly change gear..  so i can keep two full sets on me at a time.. wow, if thats true, thats kewl, like more storage space...   how would i search for it with the Broker?again, thanks for the tips.

[Xaneth]

The Mirror of Reflected Achievements is an AA mirror. It allows you to switch your AA spec by having it placed in your home and having one of your AA specs stored within it. You visit your home, and switch your spec based on what you're doing (group or solo). Generally I find it's not really worth having until you've got approx 2 lines worth of AA completed, so like 50ish points or so. As far as specs go, I started a Brig bit over a week ago, who's in the mid 30's now. I've levelled Jeweler along with her adv lvl so kept her primarily AD3'd most of the way along with MC armor and agi/str spec. I've had no problems at all soloing, even with 2-4 mobs at once. Your basic idea is to burn the stuff down as fast as possible. Use your stuns as often as they're up and I highly suggest Walk the Plank as one of your first AA investments. Fill that out to 8, it is quite helpful. Keep yourself in full chain, the basic mastercrafted stuff that gives str,sta, agi is pretty sweet and if you want you can mix a piece in that has Int, or use Int Jewelery etc a bit more. Soloing I barely ever dip below 75% health and that's even with a few mobs, it's all about stunning, positioning and killing them fast by knowing what position you need to be in and which CA that's up will do the most damage to the mobs. So ya, one of the biggest things is know which of your attacks do what kinda damage and whether you need to be behind or flanking, learn how to move fast around the mobs so you can still get in one or two of these flank attacks even if stuns and Plank are down. There's also Trickery (can't remember the earlier version offhand) that does massive amts of damage to the mob and is an M2 choice for 2 tiers (you can find it in your selection list). I've found it's really handy having that as M2 if you do intend on soloing at lot.

[Kegofbud]

A lot of people end up using rare, mastercrafted leather armor at lower levels because it is so much cheaper then chain mastercrafted. It's not a bad thing to do early on, but definitely not something you'd want to carry on in to the upper levels soloing with.As for your main question, don't key on AGI at all. That comes with most equipment. You need to key on STR for damage, STA if you're really going to be soloing a lot, and INT for Procs. STA and INT you can argue about if you want, but STR should be your main desire until you reach the soft cap.

[Fatuus]

<cite>Choatley@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote>A lot of people end up using rare, mastercrafted leather armor at lower levels because it is so much cheaper then chain mastercrafted. It's not a bad thing to do early on, but definitely not something you'd want to carry on in to the upper levels soloing with.As for your main question, don't key on AGI at all. That comes with most equipment. You need to key on STR for damage, STA if you're really going to be soloing a lot, and INT for Procs. STA and INT you can argue about if you want, but STR should be your main desire until you reach the soft cap.</blockquote>Word

[GeneRul]

I don't wont to start new topic - i can ask here: how about brigand STA/TANK? any purpose of this line? soloing? (I think not) raids maybe? (healer saviour??)

[Ze]

<p>I don't wish to confuse you even further, as I believe the above posts are, for the most part, correct. But I do think the entire brigand community is focusing excessively on STR at the expense of AGI. Yes, you need STR as your first priority (contrary to what you might think, being a scout). But I think there should be an equilibrium, especially if you solo a lot. AGI makes you able to withstand melee and it increases your power pool, both of which are quite important when soloing. Now, if you group at all times, then AGI really isn't that important. But for the solo brigand, I think the ideal is a balance of STR and AGI. Most players would disagree with me. </p>

[yzyh]

<cite>Zerp wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I don't wish to confuse you even further, as I believe the above posts are, for the most part, correct. But I do think the entire brigand community is focusing excessively on STR at the expense of AGI. Yes, you need STR as your first priority (contrary to what you might think, being a scout). But I think there should be an equilibrium, especially if you solo a lot. AGI makes you able to withstand melee and it increases your power pool, both of which are quite important when soloing. Now, if you group at all times, then AGI really isn't that important. But for the solo brigand, I think the ideal is a balance of STR and AGI. Most players would disagree with me. </p></blockquote><p>yes bcuz for 2 reason.</p><p>1) focus on str and int to get your DPS maxed</p><p>2) Lets say you get to chose betwin +50str or + 50 agi. +50 str would boost your DPS wich is your only purpose in group and +DPS while soloing mean faster kill mean less healing required. +50agi would mean that you would take less dmg while soloing but it wouldn't chyange a dam thing while geouping.....</p><p>I think you can figure the rest by yourself</p>

[Jukol]

<cite>yzyh wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>2) Lets say you get to chose betwin +50str or + 50 agi. +50 str would boost your DPS wich is your only purpose in group and +DPS while soloing mean faster kill mean less healing required. +50agi would mean that you would take less dmg while soloing but it wouldn't chyange a dam thing while geouping.....</blockquote>It's not an either/or prospect. Zerp was saying you should strike a balance, not take agility over strength.Instead of +50 str or +50 agi, you could try to strike a balance like 30str, 20agi. The strength gives you more damage, and the agi gives you more power and lets you dodge a few more hits. Not ideal for grouping, but in soloing the extra evasion is highly useful. I've always said that not being hit in the first place is a far better solution than soaking the damage <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />So, to the OP, I'd say try to strike a balance. Take strength over agility, yes, but don't neglect agility completely. I always tried to keep my agility at least half my strength, never did my soloing or grouping abilities any harm.Also, in regard to chain armour, I don't know what level you are, but I'd guess below 20, since if I remember correctly, past 20, chain armour becomes str/sta/agi, so you'll probably get more than enough agility from that.