SoE must work on making multiple core work with their game.

[yzyh]

<p>Their is a post telling that EQ2 isn,t supporting Dual core computer. Well I hope it was only dual core and not duo 2 core also.</p><p>if it is SoE much change it or many poeple will probably be tempted to go on the new games (Warhammer online, AoC)</p><p>I will personaly have a Quad core in about 1hour and this is now what everyone get when they buya  New computer.</p><p>And they are working on making 8core. (well that is for the normal poeple they are actualy working on a over 100core computer for industrial needs).</p><p> Their is various reason of why i quited WoW and one of them was that with a quad core computer with a 8800 ultra. I feel like that would be a waste of Engine Power to play a game that run with Super Nes Graphique.</p>

[Jal]

<cite>yzyh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Their is a post telling that EQ2 isn,t supporting Dual core computer. Well I hope it was only dual core and not duo 2 core also.</p><p>if it is SoE much change it or many poeple will probably be tempted to go on the new games (Warhammer online, AoC)</p><p>I will personaly have a Quad core in about 1hour and this is now what everyone get when they buya  New computer.</p><p>And they are working on making 8core. (well that is for the normal poeple they are actualy working on a over 100core computer for industrial needs).</p><p> Their is various reason of why i quited WoW and one of them was that with a quad core computer with a 8800 ultra. I feel like that would be a waste of Engine Power to play a game that run with Super Nes Graphique.</p></blockquote>Dual core computing is alot newer than the EQ2 graphics engine and game engine.  The devs im sure want to get the game running on modern systems alot better than they do currently including multi core systems but to be honest which do most people consider a priority, the game runs better but no new content or new content and gradual fixes to the game?  It's about prioritising resources and whilst id also love to take full advantage of both my dual core machines it plays well enough without.Rothgars thread on fixes and things that bug people has already noted that many people want dual core compatibility but as for how they prioritise this well thats up to them.

[Eugam]

Read the answer form a dev <a href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=11200283&postID=7920920586871988302" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here.</a>The 2nd core doesnt give much bang without fully utilizing todays video cards.me personally is quite happy about it. My PC is very silent when running on one core <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><a href="https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=11200283&postID=7920920586871988302" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"></a>

[Caipira]

OK for the 8 millioneth time, EQ2 is multi core compatible.  It is just not optimized to take advantage of multi core systems.  I am running EQ2 on multiple machines at my house, quad core, dual core, single core, and a core 2 duo, all work perfectly fine.  Now that wasnt the case a year and half ago when there were tons of multicore problems, but since then they have added support for multicore systems, but support just means that it works, it doesnt mean it will run better on them or take adavantage of the multiple cores.  Yes, I would love it if it were optimized for multicore, but I just dont see it happening anytime soon.

[LordPazuzu]

<cite>Dismas@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>OK for the 8 millioneth time, EQ2 is multi core compatible.  It is just not optimized to take advantage of multi core systems.  I am running EQ2 on multiple machines at my house, quad core, dual core, single core, and a core 2 duo, all work perfectly fine.  Now that wasnt the case a year and half ago when there were tons of multicore problems, but since then they have added support for multicore systems, but support just means that it works, it doesnt mean it will run better on them or take adavantage of the multiple cores.  Yes, I would love it if it were optimized for multicore, but I just dont see it happening anytime soon.</blockquote>Multicore compatible means nothing except that the game won't crap out on multicore systems.  It's still bound to a single core.

[Caipira]

<cite>Sulan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Dismas@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>OK for the 8 millioneth time, EQ2 is multi core compatible.  It is just not optimized to take advantage of multi core systems.  I am running EQ2 on multiple machines at my house, quad core, dual core, single core, and a core 2 duo, all work perfectly fine.  Now that wasnt the case a year and half ago when there were tons of multicore problems, but since then they have added support for multicore systems, but support just means that it works, it doesnt mean it will run better on them or take adavantage of the multiple cores.  Yes, I would love it if it were optimized for multicore, but I just dont see it happening anytime soon.</blockquote>Multicore compatible means nothing except that the game won't crap out on multicore systems.  It's still bound to a single core.</blockquote>TY for the summary of my post Sulan

[Alfgand]

<cite>Sulan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Dismas@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>OK for the 8 millioneth time, EQ2 is multi core compatible.  It is just not optimized to take advantage of multi core systems.  I am running EQ2 on multiple machines at my house, quad core, dual core, single core, and a core 2 duo, all work perfectly fine.  Now that wasnt the case a year and half ago when there were tons of multicore problems, but since then they have added support for multicore systems, but support just means that it works, it doesnt mean it will run better on them or take adavantage of the multiple cores.  Yes, I would love it if it were optimized for multicore, but I just dont see it happening anytime soon.</blockquote>Multicore compatible means nothing except that the game won't crap out on multicore systems.  It's still bound to a single core.</blockquote>Um.... Thats exactly what he said. (reading is for everyone)

[Thunderthyze]

<cite>yzyh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Their is a post telling that EQ2 isn,t supporting Dual core computer. Well I hope it was only dual core and not duo 2 core also.</p><p>if it is SoE much change it or many poeple will probably be tempted to go on the new games (Warhammer online, AoC)</p><p>I will personaly have a Quad core in about 1hour and this is now what everyone get when they buya  New computer.</p><p>And they are working on making 8core. (well that is for the normal poeple they are actualy working on a over 100core computer for industrial needs).</p><p> Their is various reason of why i quited WoW and one of them was that with a quad core computer with a 8800 ultra. I feel like that would be a waste of Engine Power to play a game that run with Super Nes Graphique.</p></blockquote>Why? I can get 40+ fps with a single core and graphics maxxed (shadows and flora off) no problem. EQ2 is not a "twitch" game. Even with PvP you are not at a disadvantage because of framerate. I'm glad I don't have to buy hardware in order to play a bloody game. If your assessment of a good game is how much hardware you have to throw at it to get it to work then I think you're missing the point.

[yzyh]

<p>Well I will test it myself in a few hour (dam EQ2 downloading). if I can't run the gam to max graphiq in a group situation it will simply mean that SoE failed at making EQ2 running on multiple core computer.</p><p>And actualy, I am pretty sure that  with a 4core and a 8800 ultra I should be able to run it at max in a raid (with other players spell graphic tunred off).</p><p> EQ2 still a 3years old game (even if it had been designed so it was +1 or 2years in advance on computers)</p>

[Jal]

<cite>yzyh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well I will test it myself in a few hour (dam EQ2 downloading). if I can't run the gam to max graphiq in a group situation it will simply mean that SoE failed at making EQ2 running on multiple core computer.</p><p>And actualy, I am pretty sure that  with a 4core and a 8800 ultra I should be able to run it at max in a raid (with other players spell graphic tunred off).</p><p> EQ2 still a 3years old game (even if it had been designed so it was +1 or 2years in advance on computers)</p></blockquote>Ok for a start the quad core will do nothing for it as has been repeated alot here, the best thing about your processor will be its base clockspeed and id imagine what FSB and cache it has in conjunction with your memory.The 8800 ultra will work fine with EQ2 if youre one of those lucky enough not to get hit by the 8800 bug seemingly present with alot of people (including me) but EQ2 is not designed to take advantage of half of its features so dont expect too much.  I have the 8800 GTX and was able to turn most graphics settings up but not all.

[yzyh]

<cite>Holymoly@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>If your assessment of a good game is how much hardware you have to throw at it to get it to work then I think you're missing the point.</blockquote><p>it is not the only point. But it is a good point. Don't fool yourself. Graphiq quality is a very good way to attrack poeple into a game. </p><p>Even if Doom3 was one of the worst FPS that I played. Many poeple bought it simply bcuz the graphique where awsome.</p>

[yzyh]

<cite>Kallarn@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>yzyh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well I will test it myself in a few hour (dam EQ2 downloading). if I can't run the gam to max graphiq in a group situation it will simply mean that SoE failed at making EQ2 running on multiple core computer.</p><p>And actualy, I am pretty sure that  with a 4core and a 8800 ultra I should be able to run it at max in a raid (with other players spell graphic tunred off).</p><p> EQ2 still a 3years old game (even if it had been designed so it was +1 or 2years in advance on computers)</p></blockquote>Ok for a start the quad core will do nothing for it as has been repeated alot here, the best thing about your processor will be its base clockspeed and id imagine what FSB and cache it has in conjunction with your memory.The 8800 ultra will work fine with EQ2 if youre one of those lucky enough not to get hit by the 8800 bug seemingly present with alot of people (including me) but EQ2 is not designed to take advantage of half of its features so dont expect too much.  I have the 8800 GTX and was able to turn most graphics settings up but not all.</blockquote>I guess that I should convice my brother to come back to vanguard with me. Sadly he is adict to weapon with partical look and their is almost none in VG.

[Caipira]

<cite>yzyh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well I will test it myself in a few hour (dam EQ2 downloading). if I can't run the gam to max graphiq in a group situation it will simply mean that SoE failed at making EQ2 running on multiple core computer.</p><p>And actualy, I am pretty sure that  with a 4core and a 8800 ultra I should be able to run it at max in a raid (with other players spell graphic tunred off).</p><p> EQ2 still a 3years old game (even if it had been designed so it was +1 or 2years in advance on computers)</p></blockquote>Not that it matters because you're obviously not listening to anyone else answers.  EQ2 failed at nothing when it comes to multicore.  The game works as advertised on multicore, they said it works and it does.  If you choose to go out and buy a quadcore processor then you choose the kind of performance you're going to get.  If you want the bext performance for EQ2 only then go out and blow your wad on the fastest single core, or core 2 duo proc you can get your hands on.  But dont go yelling the SOE failed because it doesnt conform to what you bought.  And for the record I run EQ2 on my main that is a quad core with an 8800 GTX and it runs great, Im not argueing your specs, just your expectations that because you bought the latest it should perform the best, its just not the case for every application.

[Caipira]

<cite>yzyh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Even if Doom3 was one of the worst FPS that I played. Many poeple bought it simply bcuz the graphique where awsome.</p></blockquote>Many people bought doom3 because it was the sequel to the most popular game series to ever hit the PC, and yes it happen to have great graphics and was a terrible game.  People would have bought that game no matter what the graphics were like.  I'd trade a on par graphics for the fact that EQ2 is a great game anyday.

[yzyh]

<cite>Dismas@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>yzyh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well I will test it myself in a few hour (dam EQ2 downloading). if I can't run the gam to max graphiq in a group situation it will simply mean that SoE failed at making EQ2 running on multiple core computer.</p><p>And actualy, I am pretty sure that  with a 4core and a 8800 ultra I should be able to run it at max in a raid (with other players spell graphic tunred off).</p><p> EQ2 still a 3years old game (even if it had been designed so it was +1 or 2years in advance on computers)</p></blockquote>Not that it matters because you're obviously not listening to anyone else answers.  EQ2 failed at nothing when it comes to multicore.  The game works as advertised on multicore, they said it works and it does.  If you choose to go out and buy a quadcore processor then you choose the kind of performance you're going to get.  If you want the bext performance for EQ2 only then go out and blow your wad on the fastest single core, or core 2 duo proc you can get your hands on.  But dont go yelling the SOE failed because it doesnt conform to what you bought.  And for the record I run EQ2 on my main that is a quad core with an 8800 GTX and it runs great, Im not argueing your specs, just your expectations that because you bought the latest it should perform the best, its just not the case for every application.</blockquote><p>1) I lsitened to every reply</p><p>2) Actualy its the game creator job to ensure their game is up to date wit the current content. Not the customer job to buy a computer who sue 3years old technologie to play a single game.</p><p>P.S. I doubt that you can buy any Single core PC anymore. especialy since the current tecnologie just capped the Hertz it was physicaly possible to achieve with the current material we do use ATM.</p><p>thats why they started to creat multiple core computer my friend.</p>

[Caipira]

<cite>yzyh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>2) Actualy its the game creator job to ensure their game is up to date wit the current content. Not the customer job to buy a computer who sue 3years old technologie to play a single game.</p></blockquote>OMG you are SO right!!!  EQ2 is optimized for AEGIA physics engines, exclusive DX10 coding, or those flight sim goggles!!!  Thats it I'm quitting who wants my stuff?  Oh wait, none of what you are whining about is content related, whew, ok Im staying, keeping my stuff now!

[Konahito]

<cite>Dismas@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>ok Im staying, keeping my stuff now!</blockquote><p>Darn, and here I thought I could score some phat lewtz. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>As a reminder to everyone though, please keep the discussion polite and don't take it to insults just because you're frustrated.</p>

[Wingrider01]

<cite>yzyh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well I will test it myself in a few hour (dam EQ2 downloading). if I can't run the gam to max graphiq in a group situation it will simply mean that SoE failed at making EQ2 running on multiple core computer.</p><p>And actualy, I am pretty sure that  with a 4core and a 8800 ultra I should be able to run it at max in a raid (with other players spell graphic tunred off).</p><p> EQ2 still a 3years old game (even if it had been designed so it was +1 or 2years in advance on computers)</p></blockquote><p>I run it max on both a core duo and a quad core system, only thing I turn off is shadows and that is by personal preference I detest them. In addition I cut back the spell effects in raid situation simple because </p><p>I cannot see. The only difference from what you are saying is I got rid of the 8800's in favor of going back to the more stable 7950GX2's, second best move I ever made in my life.. </p>

[Kir]

<cite>Dismas@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>yzyh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>2) Actualy its the game creator job to ensure their game is up to date wit the current content. Not the customer job to buy a computer who sue 3years old technologie to play a single game.</p></blockquote>OMG you are SO right!!!  EQ2 is optimized for AEGIA physics engines, exclusive DX10 coding, or those flight sim goggles!!!  Thats it I'm quitting who wants my stuff?  Oh wait, none of what you are whining about is content related, whew, ok Im staying, keeping my stuff now!</blockquote>last time I checked this was a tech support forum, not a discussion forum on what content we would like to see added to the game.<div></div><div>To try and make it sound like someone is complaining because it does not have AEGIA or DX10 support is laughable, and only shows that your nose is getting a little brown at the tip.  The fact that the eq2 engine is cpu bound, yet does nothing to support multi threading, has problems with many new GPU's, including those that are from ATI not just nvidia, and the fact that the engine is 4 years older then whats on the market today and still does not run as decent as the games with newer more advanced engines on todays hardware is a legit complaint.</div><div></div><div>As for Sony, keep throwing your heads in the sand but just remember one thing.  Now that you guys are under SCEA remember what Japan did with the PS3 launch, the same thing, stuck their heads in the sand and ignored the user base and what it wanted and look how far that got them.</div><div></div><div>/shrug its your choice SoE.  You either adapt and grow, or you keep your subpar market share in the mmo genre until games like AoC, WO, and the likes come out and your already low subscriber base gets even lower and you sit there in progress meetings looking at each other wondering "why this happened."</div><div></div><div>I speak with my wallet, 3 swg accounts canceled, 2 EQ2 accounts canceled (one being all access).  /shrug last post from me.  ciao.  I would rather give my 75ish dollars a month I spent for family and I to play your games on a company who has their act together.</div>

[Fredcat]

<cite>yzyh wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well I will test it myself in a few hour (dam EQ2 downloading). if I can't run the gam to max graphiq in a group situation it will simply mean that SoE failed at making EQ2 running on multiple core computer.</p><p>And actualy, I am pretty sure that  with a 4core and a 8800 ultra I should be able to run it at max in a raid (with other players spell graphic tunred off).</p><p> EQ2 still a 3years old game (even if it had been designed so it was +1 or 2years in advance on computers)</p></blockquote>Actually all that means is you failed to realize the CPU is NOT the bottleneck in EQ2, the video card is. This is true with almost all video games. Your processor is seldom running at 100%. Sure in an ideal world all software would run in a 64bit environment and utilize 4 cores. But thats not how it is. Unless you do a lot of heavy audio/video you probably don't have a single application that will use all 4 cores. Oh and that 8 core your worried about is called the Sculltrail. That processor is an engineering toy. It cost around $3500 and is outperformed but current xtreme quad cores in normal (read current) applications.My dual core E8400 with 2 8800GTS (G92) in SLI would kill your new quad setup because you only have one video card thats now 2 generations behind the latest.S.O.E. failed at nothing. Instead of buying a quad for gaming (which is useless) you should have bought more video power.