brigand achievement ?

[yzyh]

<p>I now have Walkt he Plank rank2 so now I have been told that going for rogue achievement would be bether now.</p><p>But I am wondering wich RA are nice to have ?</p><p>I am totaly lost beeing only lvl 22 I have no idea wich skill  I will use in my higher lvl.</p><p>Any help would be greatly apreciated.</p>

[Dareena]

<p>Well Achievement points are always a matter of personal taste and opinion.  Having said that, here's my thoughts and experiences.</p><p>I'm currently on my 1st character.  At this point, it's a Brigand 49, AA 55.  The original advice I recieved from every other Brigand player that I talked to was that the Brignad specific AA should only be used as a last choice once you've hit the limit on your general AA trees.</p><p>Following their advice, I went straight into the Strength tree.  While many said I should have started with Agility for Walk to Plank, I didn't have many backstab style attacks at the time.  So instead of building myself around a couple of arts, I decided to increase my offense on every attack through the Strength stat increases.  Combined with the later debuffing strikes from the Blackguard tree, it worked out perfectly with my desire to be able to solo.</p><p>First off, what is your wielding style?  Weapon and shield?  Single wield weapon and empty off hand?  Or dual wielding?  Depending on that answer, my advice would vary.</p><p>As it was stated to me, the most popular and successful combinations are those who have Strength / Agility or Strength / Wisdom.  Intelligence is useful, but more oriented towards group dynamics and not soloing.  The same goes for the Stamina line.</p><p>I would suggest that you head into Strength before you touch the Brigand specific stuff.  Don't get me wrong, some of that stuff is kind of neat.  But pound for pound, all of it pales in comparison to the general archetype AA trees.  Your main focus for the Strength tree should be the debuffing strikes (Torporous Strike & Blackguard Strike) and especially the increased chance for melee criticals.</p><p>(Edit)</p><p>In case you're wondering about my exact AA breakdown, here it is...</p><p>Blackguard Tree (8 AA for increased crits, 6 AA for Torpous Strke, minimum AA for the rest)</p><p>Pirate Tree (8 AA for increased movement speed, 6 AA for Walk the Plank, minimum AA for the rest)</p><p>Brigand - Subterfuge Tree (5 AA Stealth, 1 AA Cheap Shot)</p>

[Fatuus]

<cite>ericsweeney wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well Achievement points are always a matter of personal taste and opinion.  Having said that, here's my thoughts and experiences.</p><p>I'm currently on my 1st character.  At this point, it's a Brigand 49, AA 55.  The original advice I recieved from every other Brigand player that I talked to was that the Brignad specific AA should only be used as a last choice once you've hit the limit on your general AA trees.</p><p>Following their advice, I went straight into the Strength tree.  While many said I should have started with Agility for Walk to Plank, I didn't have many backstab style attacks at the time.  So instead of building myself around a couple of arts, I decided to increase my offense on every attack through the Strength stat increases.  Combined with the later debuffing strikes from the Blackguard tree, it worked out perfectly with my desire to be able to solo.</p><p>First off, what is your wielding style?  Weapon and shield?  Single wield weapon and empty off hand?  Or dual wielding?  Depending on that answer, my advice would vary.</p><p>As it was stated to me, the most popular and successful combinations are those who have Strength / Agility or Strength / Wisdom.  Intelligence is useful, but more oriented towards group dynamics and not soloing.  The same goes for the Stamina line.</p><p>I would suggest that you head into Strength before you touch the Brigand specific stuff.  Don't get me wrong, some of that stuff is kind of neat.  But pound for pound, all of it pales in comparison to the general archetype AA trees.  Your main focus for the Strength tree should be the debuffing strikes (Torporous Strike & Blackguard Strike) and especially the increased chance for melee criticals.</p><p>(Edit)</p><p>In case you're wondering about my exact AA breakdown, here it is...</p><p>Blackguard Tree (8 AA for increased crits, 6 AA for Torpous Strke, minimum AA for the rest)</p><p>Pirate Tree (8 AA for increased movement speed, 6 AA for Walk the Plank, minimum AA for the rest)</p><p>Brigand - Subterfuge Tree (5 AA Stealth, 1 AA Cheap Shot)</p></blockquote><p>You must PVP (I hope) because that AA setup is silly...</p><p>AA's don't really help you much until you get higher in levels. Don't worry about it until much later. Your aa builds depend on what you want to do with your brigand. If you want to learn more about your brigand becareful what you ask on these forums since most people who post here hardly have a clue about their class due to outside controling influences.</p>

[Dareena]

<p>Wow, now I've had my laugh for the day.  Unconstructive criticism that doesn't give much of a return suggestion about AA placement.  (And no, I play on an RP server where a majority of the players observe some form of social etiquette.)</p><p>As I previously stated, AA placement and value are extremely subjective.  (Case in point, refer to above post.)</p><p>Running a character specifically in mind for soloing, I found that AA have been extremely important.  No matter what your AA total may be, your Adventure level is used for the calculation of your challenges.  So whether you have 5 AA or 50 AA, your rewards are still the same.  In my own experiences, having an AA margin above your Adventure level has been extremely beneficial and a noticeable edge as my margin continues to grow.</p><p>Figure out what you want the character to do and apply your AA towards that goal.  It's that simple.  I wanted a character who could solo and want to saves hours of my life (long term) with an increased movement rate.  (Especially since the AA increase stacks with racial bumps and mounts.)  So that's what I did.  But my answer may not be the same as your answer.</p>

[Fatuus]

<cite>ericsweeney wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wow, now I've had my laugh for the day.  Unconstructive criticism that doesn't give much of a return suggestion about AA placement.  (And no, I play on an RP server where a majority of the players observe some form of social etiquette.)</p><p>As I previously stated, AA placement and value are extremely subjective.  (Case in point, refer to above post.)</p><p>Running a character specifically in mind for soloing, I found that AA have been extremely important.  No matter what your AA total may be, your Adventure level is used for the calculation of your challenges.  So whether you have 5 AA or 50 AA, your rewards are still the same.  In my own experiences, having an AA margin above your Adventure level has been extremely beneficial and a noticeable edge as my margin continues to grow.</p><p>Figure out what you want the character to do and apply your AA towards that goal.  It's that simple.  I wanted a character who could solo and want to saves hours of my life (long term) with an increased movement rate.  (Especially since the AA increase stacks with racial bumps and mounts.)  So that's what I did.  But my answer may not be the same as your answer.</p></blockquote><p>I commented that yours setup was dumb because it is. KoS AA setup is relatively straightforward  on how to spec a brigand for either maximumm dps, or soloing potential. To better assist you I have linked a beginners guide on how to play and spec your class. If you want, I can sign on later and hold your hand and sing softly to you while you read it later.</p><p><a href="http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/22037-how-brigand-rok-everyone-must-read-before-posting.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/2...re-posting.html</a></p><p>Bottom line is AA's...while useful YES are not that useful to any character less then lvl 50 IMO. Its just too hard to get them until you get into tier 6 quests.</p>

[Bozidar]

<cite>Fatuus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I commented that yours setup was dumb because it is. KoS AA setup is relatively straightforward  on how to spec a brigand for either maximumm dps, or soloing potential. To better assist you I have linked a beginners guide on how to play and spec your class. If you want, I can sign on later and hold your hand and sing softly to you while you read it later.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/22037-how-brigand-rok-everyone-must-read-before-posting.html" target="_blank">http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/2...re-posting.html</a></p><p>Bottom line is AA's...while useful YES are not that useful to any character less then lvl 50 IMO. Its just too hard to get them until you get into tier 6 quests.</p></blockquote><p>While your observation on his AA spec is pretty accurate, the comment that AAs dont help until 50 is just silly.  With max AA, i can solo yellow ^^^'s at lvl 12.  You can't do that kinda thing w/o AA. </p><p>to the OP: when it comes to survivability, the STA line beats all.  It's got a nice DPS buff down the line, and you'll be a pretty good tank if you can't find one, and a great off-tank if you do.  The STR line for the melee crits is key, max out the melee crits.  The AGI line is nice for walk the plank, but i wouldnt' put too many points into WTP.  Save your points to max out Avast Ye.  Use walk the plank to turn a mob around, but then you can chain-stun them to keep them facing away from you, while you land all your backattacks.</p><p>I do pvp, so for me i always start any brigand off with 5 points in street smarts.  As a rogue you dont usually have great resists unless you've got some good gear, so that extra percentage is pretty nice, imo.</p><p>I came to this forum looking for info on AA, but at lower levels it's easy.  STR/STA for soloing or tanking.  nice dps buff, great surviability</p>

[Eviljoe2]

<cite>Fatuus wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>ericsweeney wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wow, now I've had my laugh for the day.  Unconstructive criticism that doesn't give much of a return suggestion about AA placement.  (And no, I play on an RP server where a majority of the players observe some form of social etiquette.)</p><p>As I previously stated, AA placement and value are extremely subjective.  (Case in point, refer to above post.)</p><p>Running a character specifically in mind for soloing, I found that AA have been extremely important.  No matter what your AA total may be, your Adventure level is used for the calculation of your challenges.  So whether you have 5 AA or 50 AA, your rewards are still the same.  In my own experiences, having an AA margin above your Adventure level has been extremely beneficial and a noticeable edge as my margin continues to grow.</p><p>Figure out what you want the character to do and apply your AA towards that goal.  It's that simple.  I wanted a character who could solo and want to saves hours of my life (long term) with an increased movement rate.  (Especially since the AA increase stacks with racial bumps and mounts.)  So that's what I did.  But my answer may not be the same as your answer.</p></blockquote><p>I commented that yours setup was dumb because it is. KoS AA setup is relatively straightforward  on how to spec a brigand for either maximumm dps, or soloing potential. To better assist you I have linked a beginners guide on how to play and spec your class. If you want, I can sign on later and hold your hand and sing softly to you while you read it later.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/22037-how-brigand-rok-everyone-must-read-before-posting.html" target="_blank">http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/2...re-posting.html</a></p><p>Bottom line is AA's...while useful YES are not that useful to any character less then lvl 50 IMO. Its just too hard to get them until you get into tier 6 quests.</p></blockquote>I have found in life that some put others down because they feel insecure about themselves.  I wonder if that was the case here.At any rate, Fatuus, seems to be the perfect example of someone trying to stir the pot.  Not only are the posts rude, they disparage another player who is actually trying to help, then offers no help him/herself.  And it is nice Fatuus that you offer to hold one's hand who did not ask for it.  But you may need help on something yourself someday, and if people remember you, you would be lucky to get but 1 reply.

[ganng]

<p>I built myslef to increase my debuffs and have better de-agro as I am building to raid and those two things are what we do (de-buff) and what we are laking (agro drop).</p><p>So I am basically STR and AGI pick and chose to end skill then go to INT to get the de-agro skills.</p><p>Brig tree is basically used to enhace what ever you built your rogue tree on so it is really up to you. </p><p>Note: Going 1-hander with open off hand is really only if you have a really really great 1-hander and you will only really get items of this level if you raid for your tier. </p><p>Note: No comment on STA line as I am not about to bother tanking with my need for back stabing... and who really wants a tank that will run the risk of flipping the mob back on the group?</p>

[Fatuus]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Fatuus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I commented that yours setup was dumb because it is. KoS AA setup is relatively straightforward  on how to spec a brigand for either maximumm dps, or soloing potential. To better assist you I have linked a beginners guide on how to play and spec your class. If you want, I can sign on later and hold your hand and sing softly to you while you read it later.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/22037-how-brigand-rok-everyone-must-read-before-posting.html" target="_blank">http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/2...re-posting.html</a></p><p>Bottom line is AA's...while useful YES are not that useful to any character less then lvl 50 IMO. Its just too hard to get them until you get into tier 6 quests.</p></blockquote><p>While your observation on his AA spec is pretty accurate, the comment that AAs dont help until 50 is just silly.  With max AA, i can solo yellow ^^^'s at lvl 12.  You can't do that kinda thing w/o AA. </p><p>to the OP: when it comes to survivability, the STA line beats all.  It's got a nice DPS buff down the line, and you'll be a pretty good tank if you can't find one, and a great off-tank if you do.  The STR line for the melee crits is key, max out the melee crits.  The AGI line is nice for walk the plank, but i wouldnt' put too many points into WTP.  Save your points to max out Avast Ye.  Use walk the plank to turn a mob around, but then you can chain-stun them to keep them facing away from you, while you land all your backattacks.</p><p>I do pvp, so for me i always start any brigand off with 5 points in street smarts.  As a rogue you dont usually have great resists unless you've got some good gear, so that extra percentage is pretty nice, imo.</p><p>I came to this forum looking for info on AA, but at lower levels it's easy.  STR/STA for soloing or tanking.  nice dps buff, great surviability</p></blockquote><p>Hero,</p><p>The poster is a lower level player NOT a higher level player mentoring down. Those are two totally different things. I can solo Orange con lvl 12 ^^^, want a cookie? If you are a quest oriented player...it's REALLY difficult to have more then 30 aa's before level 40...most of the AA xp from quests comes from t5+ quests. Most players generally have fewer then 30 aas before level 50. Hence...due to the difficulty obtaining the aa I said don't really worry about it.......since 30 total aa won't make or break a brigand. Thats enough to finish off one of 5 possible trees open to a player. Not to mention the fact that before lvl 50 some of the EOF aa's are useless to a brig since you only start to get them at level 50+.</p><p>Lastly you are as you admit a PVP player, which encompasses about 5% of the brigand WW population GRATs to you.</p>

[Fatuus]

<cite>Eviljoe2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Fatuus wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>ericsweeney wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wow, now I've had my laugh for the day.  Unconstructive criticism that doesn't give much of a return suggestion about AA placement.  (And no, I play on an RP server where a majority of the players observe some form of social etiquette.)</p><p>As I previously stated, AA placement and value are extremely subjective.  (Case in point, refer to above post.)</p><p>Running a character specifically in mind for soloing, I found that AA have been extremely important.  No matter what your AA total may be, your Adventure level is used for the calculation of your challenges.  So whether you have 5 AA or 50 AA, your rewards are still the same.  In my own experiences, having an AA margin above your Adventure level has been extremely beneficial and a noticeable edge as my margin continues to grow.</p><p>Figure out what you want the character to do and apply your AA towards that goal.  It's that simple.  I wanted a character who could solo and want to saves hours of my life (long term) with an increased movement rate.  (Especially since the AA increase stacks with racial bumps and mounts.)  So that's what I did.  But my answer may not be the same as your answer.</p></blockquote><p>I commented that yours setup was dumb because it is. KoS AA setup is relatively straightforward  on how to spec a brigand for either maximumm dps, or soloing potential. To better assist you I have linked a beginners guide on how to play and spec your class. If you want, I can sign on later and hold your hand and sing softly to you while you read it later.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/22037-how-brigand-rok-everyone-must-read-before-posting.html" target="_blank">http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/2...re-posting.html</a></p><p>Bottom line is AA's...while useful YES are not that useful to any character less then lvl 50 IMO. Its just too hard to get them until you get into tier 6 quests.</p></blockquote>I have found in life that some put others down because they feel insecure about themselves.  I wonder if that was the case here.At any rate, Fatuus, seems to be the perfect example of someone trying to stir the pot.  Not only are the posts rude, they disparage another player who is actually trying to help, then offers no help him/herself.  And it is nice Fatuus that you offer to hold one's hand who did not ask for it.  But you may need help on something yourself someday, and if people remember you, you would be lucky to get but 1 reply.</blockquote><p>Actually I was quite helpful. I told him not to worry about it since it doesn't really matter until you get higher levels. Do aa's help YES, will they help a toon less then lvl 50....not much.</p><p>I also warned the poster who was new to the forums to take what people say here with a grain of salt since most of us that know the class hardly check here to help players out anymore due to "outside controlling influences."</p><p>Lastly I warned the OP that the AA spec I quoted was just plain silly. Silly is not that much of a derogatory term IMO. If that hurt their feelings I appologize. But note, at least one other person listed a much better AA setup and told them to spec differently. The issue I had was with the AGI line spec, which was all kinds of ways silly, but the person replying to the post who's an "expert" admits they are lvl 49.</p><p>Have a WONDERFUL Soe day <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Nematod]

<cite>Fatuus wrote:</cite><blockquote> I can solo Orange con lvl 12 ^^^, want a cookie? If you are a quest oriented player...it's REALLY difficult to have more then 30 aa's before level 40...most of the AA xp from quests comes from t5+ quests. Most players generally have fewer then 30 aas before level 50.</blockquote><p>Hmmmm...don't agree with that.  When I was lvl 40 I had at least 50 AA's, when I was 50 I had well over 60 AA's.  I'm level 69 now and I have 95 AA's.  I dont want a cookie as I like pie much better.  It's should not be difficult to keep your AAs above your level any time after lvl 20 if you're starting from scratch.</p><p>I do agree that AA spec doesn't make too big of a difference before lvl 50.  They DO make a difference, just not a huge one.  My AAs have been botched totally since I started them and I'm (hopfully) doing OK.  Waiting on lvl 70 make the changes.</p><p>Cheers</p>

[Eviljoe2]

<cite>Fatuus wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Eviljoe2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Fatuus wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>ericsweeney wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wow, now I've had my laugh for the day.  Unconstructive criticism that doesn't give much of a return suggestion about AA placement.  (And no, I play on an RP server where a majority of the players observe some form of social etiquette.)</p><p>As I previously stated, AA placement and value are extremely subjective.  (Case in point, refer to above post.)</p><p>Running a character specifically in mind for soloing, I found that AA have been extremely important.  No matter what your AA total may be, your Adventure level is used for the calculation of your challenges.  So whether you have 5 AA or 50 AA, your rewards are still the same.  In my own experiences, having an AA margin above your Adventure level has been extremely beneficial and a noticeable edge as my margin continues to grow.</p><p>Figure out what you want the character to do and apply your AA towards that goal.  It's that simple.  I wanted a character who could solo and want to saves hours of my life (long term) with an increased movement rate.  (Especially since the AA increase stacks with racial bumps and mounts.)  So that's what I did.  But my answer may not be the same as your answer.</p></blockquote><p>I commented that yours setup was dumb because it is. KoS AA setup is relatively straightforward  on how to spec a brigand for either maximumm dps, or soloing potential. To better assist you I have linked a beginners guide on how to play and spec your class. If you want, I can sign on later and hold your hand and sing softly to you while you read it later.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/22037-how-brigand-rok-everyone-must-read-before-posting.html" target="_blank">http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/2...re-posting.html</a></p><p>Bottom line is AA's...while useful YES are not that useful to any character less then lvl 50 IMO. Its just too hard to get them until you get into tier 6 quests.</p></blockquote>I have found in life that some put others down because they feel insecure about themselves.  I wonder if that was the case here.At any rate, Fatuus, seems to be the perfect example of someone trying to stir the pot.  Not only are the posts rude, they disparage another player who is actually trying to help, then offers no help him/herself.  And it is nice Fatuus that you offer to hold one's hand who did not ask for it.  But you may need help on something yourself someday, and if people remember you, you would be lucky to get but 1 reply.</blockquote><p>Actually I was quite helpful. I told him not to worry about it since it doesn't really matter until you get higher levels. Do aa's help YES, will they help a toon less then lvl 50....not much.</p><p>I also warned the poster who was new to the forums to take what people say here with a grain of salt since most of us that know the class hardly check here to help players out anymore due to "outside controlling influences."</p><p>Lastly I warned the OP that the AA spec I quoted was just plain silly. Silly is not that much of a derogatory term IMO. If that hurt their feelings I appologize. But note, at least one other person listed a much better AA setup and told them to spec differently. The issue I had was with the AGI line spec, which was all kinds of ways silly, but the person replying to the post who's an "expert" admits they are lvl 49.</p><p>Have a WONDERFUL Soe day <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" /></p></blockquote>There are much more polite ways in which to help.  And if you are going to be so abrasive about it, you should at least be the expert you claim to be, but your assessment of the level at which AAs become helpful shows you are indeed....not an expert.

[Fatuus]

<cite>Eviljoe2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Fatuus wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Eviljoe2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Fatuus wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>ericsweeney wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wow, now I've had my laugh for the day.  Unconstructive criticism that doesn't give much of a return suggestion about AA placement.  (And no, I play on an RP server where a majority of the players observe some form of social etiquette.)</p><p>As I previously stated, AA placement and value are extremely subjective.  (Case in point, refer to above post.)</p><p>Running a character specifically in mind for soloing, I found that AA have been extremely important.  No matter what your AA total may be, your Adventure level is used for the calculation of your challenges.  So whether you have 5 AA or 50 AA, your rewards are still the same.  In my own experiences, having an AA margin above your Adventure level has been extremely beneficial and a noticeable edge as my margin continues to grow.</p><p>Figure out what you want the character to do and apply your AA towards that goal.  It's that simple.  I wanted a character who could solo and want to saves hours of my life (long term) with an increased movement rate.  (Especially since the AA increase stacks with racial bumps and mounts.)  So that's what I did.  But my answer may not be the same as your answer.</p></blockquote><p>I commented that yours setup was dumb because it is. KoS AA setup is relatively straightforward  on how to spec a brigand for either maximumm dps, or soloing potential. To better assist you I have linked a beginners guide on how to play and spec your class. If you want, I can sign on later and hold your hand and sing softly to you while you read it later.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/22037-how-brigand-rok-everyone-must-read-before-posting.html" target="_blank">http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/2...re-posting.html</a></p><p>Bottom line is AA's...while useful YES are not that useful to any character less then lvl 50 IMO. Its just too hard to get them until you get into tier 6 quests.</p></blockquote>I have found in life that some put others down because they feel insecure about themselves.  I wonder if that was the case here.At any rate, Fatuus, seems to be the perfect example of someone trying to stir the pot.  Not only are the posts rude, they disparage another player who is actually trying to help, then offers no help him/herself.  And it is nice Fatuus that you offer to hold one's hand who did not ask for it.  But you may need help on something yourself someday, and if people remember you, you would be lucky to get but 1 reply.</blockquote><p>Actually I was quite helpful. I told him not to worry about it since it doesn't really matter until you get higher levels. Do aa's help YES, will they help a toon less then lvl 50....not much.</p><p>I also warned the poster who was new to the forums to take what people say here with a grain of salt since most of us that know the class hardly check here to help players out anymore due to "outside controlling influences."</p><p>Lastly I warned the OP that the AA spec I quoted was just plain silly. Silly is not that much of a derogatory term IMO. If that hurt their feelings I appologize. But note, at least one other person listed a much better AA setup and told them to spec differently. The issue I had was with the AGI line spec, which was all kinds of ways silly, but the person replying to the post who's an "expert" admits they are lvl 49.</p><p>Have a WONDERFUL Soe day <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src=" width="15" height="15" />"></p></blockquote>There are much more polite ways in which to help.  And if you are going to be so abrasive about it, you should at least be the expert you claim to be, but your assessment of the level at which AAs become helpful shows you are indeed....not an expert.</blockquote><p>You are absolutely correct. Someone who has played a brigand for less then 4 months is a great expert at judging the correctness of what someone has has played a brigand raiding now for almost 2 years and has been raiding eq2 now for over 3 continuously.</p><p>Heres the post when you asked for help how to level....</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=404469�" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...404469�</a></p><p>And the previous post stating you have issues about what gear you should choose for your main...at that time a necro... amazingly this post is 5 months old....hmmmmmm.</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=393492�" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...393492�</a></p><p>Yea......you are definitely in a position to tell me I don't know what I am talking about. I don't care particularly if I am abrasive or not. I am not harrassing or demeaning people (other then saying words like silly) so its difficult to "smack" me.</p><p>My posts are 100% spot on. Yes you can get higher then 50 aas before lvl 50...but that requires outside help generally. This is mostlikely having a "bigger" player give a "smaller toon" collection items to turn in for quick fast aa xp and adventuring xp. Quest based aa xp is harder to get at lower levels...which if you are focusing on "grinding" your toon up is the fastest way to level...assuming you know what you are doing. Some people do not like this approach and prefer the grind method. Grinding it takes much longer to aa level for obvious reasons.</p>

[Dhaymion]

<p>  I know alot of people who lock there level to grind AA points.  I have done this myself, I can assure you that having more AA's at lower levels will drastically increase your survivabilty solo.  However locking ones level, and leveling on quest and discovery xp alone is to much work for some folks.  I believe that leveling is to fast in EQ2 anyway, so it works out great for me.   My advice to the OP is, if your willing to lock your level for atleast a few levels to grind AA's.  You will find it worth it when you can solo blue(sometimes even white con) named heriocs.  </p><p>Also Fatuus,  While your advise was not wrong, you where being a [Removed for Content] without any real reason.  Also digging up that guys old post's and linking them here is pretty obsessive.  It's not like he claimed to be an expert.</p>

[Bozidar]

<cite>Fatuus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hero,</p><p>The poster is a lower level player NOT a higher level player mentoring down. Those are two totally different things. I can solo Orange con lvl 12 ^^^, want a cookie? If you are a quest oriented player...it's REALLY difficult to have more then 30 aa's before level 40...most of the AA xp from quests comes from t5+ quests. Most players generally have fewer then 30 aas before level 50. Hence...due to the difficulty obtaining the aa I said don't really worry about it.......since 30 total aa won't make or break a brigand. Thats enough to finish off one of 5 possible trees open to a player. Not to mention the fact that before lvl 50 some of the EOF aa's are useless to a brig since you only start to get them at level 50+.</p><p>Lastly you are as you admit a PVP player, which encompasses about 5% of the brigand WW population GRATs to you.</p></blockquote><p>Self Righteous Reading Impared Crusader,</p><p>Who said I was talking about being a higher level player mentored down?  I haven't had a toon hit lvl 20 w/o more than his level in AA since EoF came out.  You need to cut back on the assumptions and half-truths riddled through that brain of yours.</p><p>Just because i'm a pvp player, doesn't mean i'm not better than you <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Bozidar]

<cite>Fatuus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Actually I was quite helpful. I told him not to worry about it since it doesn't really matter until you get higher levels. Do aa's help YES, will they help a toon less then lvl 50....not much.</p></blockquote>Want to know something funny?  I found that my AA did LESS for me at lvl 50+, rofl.  Once I got devitalize, pve was a joke.  I used to struggle with tough heroic mobs, while my warden would walk through them like butter.  Once i got devit?  cake walk.  Dispatch?  Double up?  AA became a lot less needed once i got those class defining abilities.  Prior to 50 my AA meant a lot more!  Now that I approach end game, yes, the right AA spec is going to help me in a lot of various ways.. but wont make as much difference as having Adept III's, though.

[Bozidar]

<cite>Fatuus wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You are absolutely correct. Someone who has played a brigand for less then 4 months is a great expert at judging the correctness of what someone has has played a brigand raiding now for almost 2 years and has been raiding eq2 now for over 3 continuously.</p><p>Heres the post when you asked for help how to level....</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=404469�" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...404469?</a></p><p>And the previous post stating you have issues about what gear you should choose for your main...at that time a necro... amazingly this post is 5 months old....hmmmmmm.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=393492�" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...393492?</a></p><p>Yea......you are definitely in a position to tell me I don't know what I am talking about. I don't care particularly if I am abrasive or not. I am not harrassing or demeaning people (other then saying words like silly) so its difficult to "smack" me.</p><p>My posts are 100% spot on. Yes you can get higher then 50 aas before lvl 50...but that requires outside help generally. This is mostlikely having a "bigger" player give a "smaller toon" collection items to turn in for quick fast aa xp and adventuring xp. Quest based aa xp is harder to get at lower levels...which if you are focusing on "grinding" your toon up is the fastest way to level...assuming you know what you are doing. Some people do not like this approach and prefer the grind method. Grinding it takes much longer to aa level for obvious reasons.</p></blockquote><p>ROFL, you couldn't possibly be more wrong.  Grats, you leveled up your brigand 3 years ago, but you've missed a lot about the game in the process.  I've been leveling/playing a non-capped brigand for 2 years now.  I know the class at lower levels very well, and am coming to know it quite well at high levels.  See... that's just it.. you may be able to tell someone a better end-game spec, but you're out of touch with ACTUALLY leveling.</p><p>You can get AA > level by lvl 13/14, without all that much effort.  No outside help, just time and <i>knowing the game at a low level</i>.  </p><p>GG, Brigand Expert</p>

[Eviljoe2]

<cite>Fatuus wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Eviljoe2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Fatuus wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Eviljoe2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Fatuus wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>ericsweeney wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Wow, now I've had my laugh for the day.  Unconstructive criticism that doesn't give much of a return suggestion about AA placement.  (And no, I play on an RP server where a majority of the players observe some form of social etiquette.)</p><p>As I previously stated, AA placement and value are extremely subjective.  (Case in point, refer to above post.)</p><p>Running a character specifically in mind for soloing, I found that AA have been extremely important.  No matter what your AA total may be, your Adventure level is used for the calculation of your challenges.  So whether you have 5 AA or 50 AA, your rewards are still the same.  In my own experiences, having an AA margin above your Adventure level has been extremely beneficial and a noticeable edge as my margin continues to grow.</p><p>Figure out what you want the character to do and apply your AA towards that goal.  It's that simple.  I wanted a character who could solo and want to saves hours of my life (long term) with an increased movement rate.  (Especially since the AA increase stacks with racial bumps and mounts.)  So that's what I did.  But my answer may not be the same as your answer.</p></blockquote><p>I commented that yours setup was dumb because it is. KoS AA setup is relatively straightforward  on how to spec a brigand for either maximumm dps, or soloing potential. To better assist you I have linked a beginners guide on how to play and spec your class. If you want, I can sign on later and hold your hand and sing softly to you while you read it later.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/22037-how-brigand-rok-everyone-must-read-before-posting.html" target="_blank">http://www.eq2flames.com/brigands/2...re-posting.html</a></p><p>Bottom line is AA's...while useful YES are not that useful to any character less then lvl 50 IMO. Its just too hard to get them until you get into tier 6 quests.</p></blockquote>I have found in life that some put others down because they feel insecure about themselves.  I wonder if that was the case here.At any rate, Fatuus, seems to be the perfect example of someone trying to stir the pot.  Not only are the posts rude, they disparage another player who is actually trying to help, then offers no help him/herself.  And it is nice Fatuus that you offer to hold one's hand who did not ask for it.  But you may need help on something yourself someday, and if people remember you, you would be lucky to get but 1 reply.</blockquote><p>Actually I was quite helpful. I told him not to worry about it since it doesn't really matter until you get higher levels. Do aa's help YES, will they help a toon less then lvl 50....not much.</p><p>I also warned the poster who was new to the forums to take what people say here with a grain of salt since most of us that know the class hardly check here to help players out anymore due to "outside controlling influences."</p><p>Lastly I warned the OP that the AA spec I quoted was just plain silly. Silly is not that much of a derogatory term IMO. If that hurt their feelings I appologize. But note, at least one other person listed a much better AA setup and told them to spec differently. The issue I had was with the AGI line spec, which was all kinds of ways silly, but the person replying to the post who's an "expert" admits they are lvl 49.</p><p>Have a WONDERFUL Soe day <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img mce_tsrc=" width="15" height="15" />"></p></blockquote>There are much more polite ways in which to help.  And if you are going to be so abrasive about it, you should at least be the expert you claim to be, but your assessment of the level at which AAs become helpful shows you are indeed....not an expert.</blockquote><p>You are absolutely correct. Someone who has played a brigand for less then 4 months is a great expert at judging the correctness of what someone has has played a brigand raiding now for almost 2 years and has been raiding eq2 now for over 3 continuously.</p><p>Heres the post when you asked for help how to level....</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=404469�" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...404469</a></p><p>And the previous post stating you have issues about what gear you should choose for your main...at that time a necro... amazingly this post is 5 months old....hmmmmmm.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=0&topic_id=393492�" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...393492</a></p><p>Yea......you are definitely in a position to tell me I don't know what I am talking about. I don't care particularly if I am abrasive or not. I am not harrassing or demeaning people (other then saying words like silly) so its difficult to "smack" me.</p><p>My posts are 100% spot on. Yes you can get higher then 50 aas before lvl 50...but that requires outside help generally. This is mostlikely having a "bigger" player give a "smaller toon" collection items to turn in for quick fast aa xp and adventuring xp. Quest based aa xp is harder to get at lower levels...which if you are focusing on "grinding" your toon up is the fastest way to level...assuming you know what you are doing. Some people do not like this approach and prefer the grind method. Grinding it takes much longer to aa level for obvious reasons.</p></blockquote>My original assesment of your posts stands, and you continue to prove my point.Obviously you have enough time to research the boards seeking old posts of mine to try and somehow make me look foolish.  Perhaps you could have spent that time to re-read what I posted and see that I never claimed to be an expert, I merely pointed out the fact that you are DEFINATELY not an expert because what you said about the effectiveness of AAs pre 50 is not correct.  It is an opinion maybe, but you tout it as fact.You seem intelligent enough, and may have some experience with the game, but you are certainly not omniscient.