Lore behind Shard of Hate?

[zerfall]

I realize it may be a bit early even for speculation given that the details are few and far between, but I'm just wondering if anyone who has seen/tested the SoH knows any lore behind why it's opened up and split off from the rest of the Plane.Also... does it seem like the <a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/images/en/features/gu44/hate4.jpg" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Maestro of Rancor</a> will be making an appearance?

[Gukkor2]

Personally, I'm mostly interested in learning what the Plane of Hate's name is. They revealed that the Plane of Fear's name is Modinthule through the introduction of the Shard of Fear, so I'm hoping the same will hold true for SoH.

[Cusashorn]

<p>They've hinted that with the release of the Shard of Hate, NPCs all over Norrath are beginning to become corrupted by Innoruuk's influence, and Good-aligned players will be able to work with the Priests of Erollisi Marr to help discover and solve the problem. Evil characters can help fight them off.</p><p>I don't know if every plane out there has a name. We know of Drunder, which is Zek's fortress in the Plane of Tactics. We know of Ragrax, Hold of the Twelve, which is a section of the Plane of Earth.</p>

[Apocroph]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>I don't know if every plane out there has a name. We know of Drunder, which is Zek's fortress in the Plane of Tactics. We know of Ragrax, Hold of the Twelve, which is a section of the Plane of Earth.</blockquote>PoEarth is also known as Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands.Plane of Air (Xegony's, not the Plane of Sky) is Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind.Not sure if Plane of Water is actually referred to as the Reef of Coirnav though; the reef may just be a part of the plane.Plane of Knowledge is the city of New Tanaan.Plane of Storms is, generally speaking, the area surrounding Mount Grenidor.  Torden, the Bastion of Thunder, is situated on top of this mountain.Can't remember any more at the moment, but if you read through the Fabled PoP lore at EQPlayers, you can probably find a fair amount of information on the planes.

[Gukkor2]

<p>Plane of Fire = Doomfire</p><p>Plane of Sun = Solteris</p><p>Plane of Storms does have a general name (as opposed to the specific names of each region), but I always forget what it is.</p>

[Ama]

One thing that would intrigue me is if this is good enough reason for Erollsi Marr to return.  Isn't Erollsi Marr the enemy of Inny?

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Amana wrote:</cite><blockquote>One thing that would intrigue me is if this is good enough reason for Erollsi Marr to return.  Isn't Erollsi Marr the enemy of Inny? </blockquote>An enemy, yes, but not THE enemy. Love is the polar opposite of Hate afterall, but I'm not getting my hopes up that Erollisi will return, because that way the disapointment won't be so bad.

[Meirril]

<cite>Amana wrote:</cite><blockquote>One thing that would intrigue me is if this is good enough reason for Erollsi Marr to return.  Isn't Erollsi Marr the enemy of Inny? </blockquote><p>Erollsi has been overlooked for Mithanial by development for the most part. It is a real shame, as she is a favorite amongst players, and I feel amongst those of us that are into the EQ and EQ2 lore. To say she is underdeveloped is to put it mildly. </p><p>We also don't have a whole lot of information on what happened to the Sisterhood of Erolisi, other than that they participated in the War of the Fay and those sister in the battle most likely perished. Since the order was based on a small island in the middle of the ocean of tears their survival of the rending and shattering is not too likely...though you may be able to find the island again someday. If the water level hasn't risen or some part of Luclin didn't settle on top of it.</p><p>Erollsi's return is awated by the faithful. While we rejoice in her Brothers return, our hearts still wait for their one true calling. Honor guides our actions, but love sustains us and gives us strength.</p>

[teddyboy4]

<cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Amana wrote:</cite><blockquote>One thing that would intrigue me is if this is good enough reason for Erollsi Marr to return.  Isn't Erollsi Marr the enemy of Inny? </blockquote><p>Erollsi has been overlooked for Mithanial by development for the most part. It is a real shame, as she is a favorite amongst players, and I feel amongst those of us that are into the EQ and EQ2 lore. To say she is underdeveloped is to put it mildly. </p><p>We also don't have a whole lot of information on what happened to the Sisterhood of Erolisi, other than that they participated in the War of the Fay and those sister in the battle most likely perished. Since the order was based on a small island in the middle of the ocean of tears their survival of the rending and shattering is not too likely...though you may be able to find the island again someday. If the water level hasn't risen or some part of Luclin didn't settle on top of it.</p><p>Erollsi's return is awated by the faithful. While we rejoice in her Brothers return, our hearts still wait for their one true calling. Honor guides our actions, but love sustains us and gives us strength.</p></blockquote>I wouldn't be surprised if the Order of Erollisi's involvement in fighting the strong presence of Hate amongst the populace is either Erollisi herself coming back, or the foreshadowing of Erollisi's return.As for the Sisterhood of Erollisi, we know that they have, at the least, survived the Rending and Shattering b/c they raised Antonia Bayle and delivered her to Qeynos in order to restore the lineage of the Bayle family as the rulers of the Kingdom. Now, we don't know exactly how hold Antonia is, but it is rumored that she is no more then 30ish, so the Sisterhood was around 30 years ago and I kind of doubt they have disapeared since.

[Gukkor2]

<cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Amana wrote:</cite><blockquote>One thing that would intrigue me is if this is good enough reason for Erollsi Marr to return.  Isn't Erollsi Marr the enemy of Inny? </blockquote><p>Erollsi has been overlooked for Mithanial by development for the most part. It is a real shame, as she is a favorite amongst players, and I feel amongst those of us that are into the EQ and EQ2 lore. To say she is underdeveloped is to put it mildly. </p><p>We also don't have a whole lot of information on what happened to the Sisterhood of Erolisi, other than that they participated in the War of the Fay and those sister in the battle most likely perished. Since the order was based on a small island in the middle of the ocean of tears their survival of the rending and shattering is not too likely...though you may be able to find the island again someday. If the water level hasn't risen or some part of Luclin didn't settle on top of it.</p><p>Erollsi's return is awated by the faithful. While we rejoice in her Brothers return, our hearts still wait for their one true calling. Honor guides our actions, but love sustains us and gives us strength.</p></blockquote>Antonia Bayle was raised by the Sisterhood, which would at least mean that they survived the Rending, if not the Shattering as well.  The odds of a shard of Luclin large enough destroy the Sisterhood hitting the Isle of Erollisi, though, seems pretty small.

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Eandiil@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Amana wrote:</cite><blockquote>One thing that would intrigue me is if this is good enough reason for Erollsi Marr to return.  Isn't Erollsi Marr the enemy of Inny? </blockquote><p>Erollsi has been overlooked for Mithanial by development for the most part. It is a real shame, as she is a favorite amongst players, and I feel amongst those of us that are into the EQ and EQ2 lore. To say she is underdeveloped is to put it mildly. </p><p>We also don't have a whole lot of information on what happened to the Sisterhood of Erolisi, other than that they participated in the War of the Fay and those sister in the battle most likely perished. Since the order was based on a small island in the middle of the ocean of tears their survival of the rending and shattering is not too likely...though you may be able to find the island again someday. If the water level hasn't risen or some part of Luclin didn't settle on top of it.</p><p>Erollsi's return is awated by the faithful. While we rejoice in her Brothers return, our hearts still wait for their one true calling. Honor guides our actions, but love sustains us and gives us strength.</p></blockquote>I wouldn't be surprised if the Order of Erollisi's involvement in fighting the strong presence of Hate amongst the populace is either Erollisi herself coming back, or the foreshadowing of Erollisi's return.As for the Sisterhood of Erollisi, we know that they have, at the least, survived the Rending and Shattering b/c they raised Antonia Bayle and delivered her to Qeynos in order to restore the lineage of the Bayle family as the rulers of the Kingdom. Now, we don't know exactly how hold Antonia is, but it is rumored that she is no more then 30ish, so the Sisterhood was around 30 years ago and I kind of doubt they have disapeared since.</blockquote><p>I believe she's suppose to be either 23 or 27. Can't remember which.</p><p>Other than that <a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6761" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Erollisi Puppet </a>that used to exist in the pre-revamped Plane of Mischief, We've never seen her in either EQOA or EQ yet, so seeing her in the game would be a first, and a welcome change of pace.</p>

[teddyboy4]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Eandiil@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Amana wrote:</cite><blockquote>One thing that would intrigue me is if this is good enough reason for Erollsi Marr to return.  Isn't Erollsi Marr the enemy of Inny? </blockquote><p>Erollsi has been overlooked for Mithanial by development for the most part. It is a real shame, as she is a favorite amongst players, and I feel amongst those of us that are into the EQ and EQ2 lore. To say she is underdeveloped is to put it mildly. </p><p>We also don't have a whole lot of information on what happened to the Sisterhood of Erolisi, other than that they participated in the War of the Fay and those sister in the battle most likely perished. Since the order was based on a small island in the middle of the ocean of tears their survival of the rending and shattering is not too likely...though you may be able to find the island again someday. If the water level hasn't risen or some part of Luclin didn't settle on top of it.</p><p>Erollsi's return is awated by the faithful. While we rejoice in her Brothers return, our hearts still wait for their one true calling. Honor guides our actions, but love sustains us and gives us strength.</p></blockquote>I wouldn't be surprised if the Order of Erollisi's involvement in fighting the strong presence of Hate amongst the populace is either Erollisi herself coming back, or the foreshadowing of Erollisi's return.As for the Sisterhood of Erollisi, we know that they have, at the least, survived the Rending and Shattering b/c they raised Antonia Bayle and delivered her to Qeynos in order to restore the lineage of the Bayle family as the rulers of the Kingdom. Now, we don't know exactly how hold Antonia is, but it is rumored that she is no more then 30ish, so the Sisterhood was around 30 years ago and I kind of doubt they have disapeared since.</blockquote><p>I believe she's suppose to be either 23 or 27. Can't remember which.</p><p>Other than that <a rel="nofollow" href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6761" target="_blank">Erollisi Puppet </a>that used to exist in the pre-revamped Plane of Mischief, We've never seen her in either EQOA or EQ yet, so seeing her in the game would be a first, and a welcome change of pace.</p></blockquote>27 was actually the number I had in my head, but I wasn't 100% so I said 30ish.That Erollisi puppet is pretty close to how I have always pictured her based on the descriptions I've heard, and the looks of the doll itself...a tall, elegant looking Barbarian/Human female robed in semi-transparent, flowing white robes.

[Gukkor2]

I've always pictured Erollisi as being a bit more rugged than her puppet suggested, more like a ranger, I guess.

[KniteShayd]

<cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I've always pictured Erollisi as being a bit more rugged than her puppet suggested, more like a ranger, I guess.</blockquote>Her picture in the EQ handbook shows her looking like a Paladiness, if that's even a word...

[IrishWonder]

<p>The boss mob in the zone is someone we've heard about but never seen in EQ1 or EQ2. It's Byzola, one-half of the conjoined twins of Malice (Byzola and Demetreaux.) Byzola's hand is also said to have been the artifact used by the Dark Elves during the seige on Neriak that destroyed their city and raised its inhabitants from the dead. The mob is a spiritual/wraith creature though, and is called the Manifestation of Byzola, so it's probably not THE demigod of Malice himself... just a projection.</p><p>Some of the names we'll see, some familiar and some not:</p><p>Voice of K'Lorn - this voice talks to you throughout the zone much like the one in Shard of Fear</p><p>Master P'Tasa, Lord of Repugnance - can be found in Plane of Hate in EQ1</p><p>Dreadlord D'Somni, Lord of Fury - Master D'Samni and Lord of Fury were in EQ1 Plane of Hate</p><p>Scorn, Ire, Spite, Loathing, Abhorrence, Malevolence - Mistresses of Hate - found seperately in the Plane of Hate in EQ1, they are a linked encounter in Shard of Hate</p><p>Kpul D'Vngur, Maestro of Rancor - found in Plane of Hate in EQ1</p><p>Demetrius Crane, Lord of Abhorrence</p><p>Byzola, Manifestation of Malice</p>

[Gukkor2]

Wait, I thought Byzola and Dymetreax were servants of Cazic-Thule.  I wonder how they (or he, rather) ended up at the side of Innoruuk.

[Vyrance]

Erollisi Marr did actually appear in EQ1 once for a GM event.  She appeared in the Dreadlands of Kunark and looked like a giant paladin-like barbarian.  And if I remember right she was wearing a helm that had two wings coming off of it.  Was pretty cool seeing her.  I don't remember what the GM event was about though.

[Dejah]

<p>I'm surprised the Goddess of Betrayal isn't present in Shard of Hate, as previously lore hinted that she currently resides in the Plane of Hate.</p><p>Everling is a "Servent of Theer" and a follower of the Goddess of Betrayal and since the Goddess of Betrayal is supposedly in league with Innoruk and residing in the Plane of Hate, it is a stretch but maybe Theer is the proper name for the Shard of Hate.</p><p>Mayong Mistmoore is currently searching for the 16 Monoliths of Theer, and I can't help but wonder if his search may be directly related to the Shard of Hate portal being opened.</p><p>Also, I'm pretty sure the Chelsith Stone is the Rune of Sunder. </p>

[Rezikai]

<div> <span class="genmed"><b><span style="color: #3366ff;">Gukkor2</span></b></span>:wrote</div> <span class="postbody">I've always pictured Erollisi as being a bit more rugged than her puppet suggested, more like a ranger, I guess.</span><hr />I think your thinking of the Erollisi Marr from EQOA, while not used in-game while i was there... (possibly in ht last 6 months with the new updates) she had a more ranger-ish styled look to her... found here. <img src="http://www.cyclopsx.com/Archives/EQOA/UniqueNPCs/ErollisiMarr.jpg" border="0" alt="" />

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Rezikai@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><span class="genmed"><b><span style="color: #3366ff;">Gukkor2</span></b></span>:wrote</div><span class="postbody">I've always pictured Erollisi as being a bit more rugged than her puppet suggested, more like a ranger, I guess.</span><hr />I think your thinking of the Erollisi Marr from EQOA, while not used in-game while i was there... (possibly in ht last 6 months with the new updates) she had a more ranger-ish styled look to her... found here. <img src="http://www.cyclopsx.com/Archives/EQOA/UniqueNPCs/ErollisiMarr.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="640" height="448" /></blockquote><p>First off: Wait, what? EQOA is still getting updates? I heard that the game did so poorly that the Rathe Mountains expansion pack or whatever it's called that introduced the ogres as a playable race and Arcadin in Odus was the only expansion pack the game would ever recieve. There are still designers making new content for it?</p><p>2nd: Her original depiction in the original Pantheon on EQ's website shows her wearing light armor and holding a bow, much as depicted in that picture there.</p>

[Arianah]

eek off topic again but want to reply/contribute <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />I think EQoA must be receiving updates still if it's still around, a friend of mine plays it and even though I've tried hehe, he won't switch over to EQ or EQ2.Since the EQoA pic of Erollisi and the EQ puppet pic have been provided (btw, the puppet graphic is the same one used in the Halloween monster mission on EQ1 where you play as the gods), here's the other picture I know of: <a href="http://myrist.nsaguild.com/eq/index.php?content=erollisi.php" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Erollisi (in the bottom right corner of the first page)</a>Someone painted a rather beautiful image of Erollisi for a contest, it's in the Fan Art section, I even made a wallpaper out of it lol.... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Arianah wrote:</cite><blockquote>(btw, the puppet graphic is the same one used in the Halloween monster mission on EQ1 where you play as the gods), here's the other picture I know of: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://myrist.nsaguild.com/eq/index.php?content=erollisi.php" target="_blank">Erollisi (in the bottom right corner of the first page)</a>Someone painted a rather beautiful image of Erollisi for a contest, it's in the Fan Art section, I even made a wallpaper out of it lol.... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p>That's the very picture I spoke of.</p><p>huh? Halloween monster mission? What? This must have been added in after EQ2 came out. It sounds interesting. I wonder if Quellious finally showed up for once?</p>

[Gukkor2]

Yes, EQOA does still receive occasional updates and additions, though there hasn't been anymore expansion packs.  The biggest changes I can think of have been a big class-balancing endeavor they had a few months back, and the addition of a new zone: the Zaoran Plateau, which is a location on the Plane of War.

[Arianah]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Arianah wrote:</cite><blockquote>(btw, the puppet graphic is the same one used in the Halloween monster mission on EQ1 where you play as the gods), here's the other picture I know of: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://myrist.nsaguild.com/eq/index.php?content=erollisi.php" target="_blank">Erollisi (in the bottom right corner of the first page)</a>Someone painted a rather beautiful image of Erollisi for a contest, it's in the Fan Art section, I even made a wallpaper out of it lol.... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p>That's the very picture I spoke of.</p><p>huh? Halloween monster mission? What? This must have been added in after EQ2 came out. It sounds interesting. I wonder if Quellious finally showed up for once?</p></blockquote>Yeah, not sure when it was introduced, definitely after DoDH expansion. Let's see if I can remember, 6 players so there was Tunare (pogrowth graphic), Erollisi (puppet graphic), Terris (pop graphic), Cazic (pofear graphic), Bertoxxulous (pop graphic) and.. Rallos (kael drakkel graphic). No Quellious..

[Daine]

I always imagined Erollisi as more paladinesque myself, but the ranger image works too...after all the Goddess of Love must have her arrows to do her job!  Cupidess FTW!I'd love to see Ulkorruuk mentioned some more in game.  We hear about her in the Everling books, and can see the chapel to her in Nek Castle...but she's fascinated me ever since I learned about her, to a degree no other deity has in this game.  She did 'something' so horrible that she was basically turned into THE antipaladin, yet we don't seem to have a record of it.  Would be funny if she was actually a big key in the plot of Norrath, like it turns out something she did opened up a portal to the void and let the shadowed men in or something!  (She's appearing again with Kunark too, there are a few item drops with her name in them.)

[RaphaNissi]

<p><a href="http://www.lorelibrary.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">The Athenaeum</a> has a little piece of lore that gives some insight into the lore behind the Shard of Hate and why it has come back.  Enjoy the read!<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>Very interesting. The Queen seems to be threatened by the portal opening...</p><p>Also: They acknowledge Opal Darkbriar's Death. To all who wish for her to come back and continue playing what minor role she had... well...</p>

[teddyboy4]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Very interesting. The Queen seems to be threatened by the portal opening...</p><p>Also: They acknowledge Opal Darkbriar's Death. To all who wish for her to come back and continue playing what minor role she had... well...</p></blockquote>If I were her I'd feel threatened by it too. After all, it seems that she has indeed turned her back on her god and creator, Innoruuk, only to try and supplant his place as the patron diety of all Dark Elves. It's funny and ironic really, that her one time closest supporters and allies, The Dead, now criticize and chastise her for her arrogance in trying to take the place of the Prince of Hate himself. Now, we don't <i>really</i> know if that's what she is doing, but she certainly doesn't seem to be a follower of Innoruuk anymore, and she certainly is confidant in her own powers. To me, it seems she does consider herself to be equal to the gods, and I think a smack-down a long time in the making is comin her way.As for Opal, it really is a shame that her chapter in the history of Norrath has ended. She has always been a very mysterious, and interesting character since way back in the day when she was posing as a High Elf in the Academy. Oh well, rest in pieces Opal...

[Meirril]

<cite>Eandiil@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Very interesting. The Queen seems to be threatened by the portal opening...</p><p>Also: They acknowledge Opal Darkbriar's Death. To all who wish for her to come back and continue playing what minor role she had... well...</p></blockquote>If I were her I'd feel threatened by it too. After all, it seems that she has indeed turned her back on her god and creator, Innoruuk, only to try and supplant his place as the patron diety of all Dark Elves. It's funny and ironic really, that her one time closest supporters and allies, The Dead, now criticize and chastise her for her arrogance in trying to take the place of the Prince of Hate himself. Now, we don't <i>really</i> know if that's what she is doing, but she certainly doesn't seem to be a follower of Innoruuk anymore, and she certainly is confidant in her own powers. To me, it seems she does consider herself to be equal to the gods, and I think a smack-down a long time in the making is comin her way.As for Opal, it really is a shame that her chapter in the history of Norrath has ended. She has always been a very mysterious, and interesting character since way back in the day when she was posing as a High Elf in the Academy. Oh well, rest in pieces Opal...</blockquote>It is possible that the queen may have Opal revived (resurrected, reanimated, spirit placed in a construct, ect.) to gain the information Opal was holding out on. That could be the reason she didn't try to offer that information to Lucan in return for her life. Don't rule her out of Lore yet.

[Lodrelhai]

It's also possible that the queen sees an environment of uncertainty as prime breeding ground for suspicion, accusation, violence, and other signs of mindless hate.Also, something odd when my little arasai was running "The Power of Hate."  When she introduced herself to Xilania, the Seraph asked, "You wish to serve The Dead, and thus The Prince of Hate?"Aren't the Dead the faction of Shadowknights and Necromancers, and thus the supporters of the Queen?  Have the Disciples and the Dead come to an accord?Or maybe Crystanos was telling the truth when she said she was now the god of her people?Edit: Okay, the Seraph is still against the Queen, but definitely working with the Dead.  Either I've completely confused the allegiances, or someone has lost her power support.

[teddyboy4]

<cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite><blockquote>It's also possible that the queen sees an environment of uncertainty as prime breeding ground for suspicion, accusation, violence, and other signs of mindless hate.Also, something odd when my little arasai was running "The Power of Hate."  When she introduced herself to Xilania, the Seraph asked, "You wish to serve The Dead, and thus The Prince of Hate?"Aren't the Dead the faction of Shadowknights and Necromancers, and thus the supporters of the Queen?  Have the Disciples and the Dead come to an accord?Or maybe Crystanos was telling the truth when she said she was now the god of her people?Edit: Okay, the Seraph is still against the Queen, but definitely working with the Dead.  Either I've completely confused the allegiances, or someone has lost her power support.</blockquote>You are right and wrong. The Dead have traditionally been the Queen's strongest supporters and allies. That was true at least, until Christanos tried to set herself up as a goddess and supplant the Prince of Hate as the main diety of the Dark Elves. Then, The Dead went from being among her strongest supporters, to her staunchest critics. Most of The Dead seems to have kept their allegiance to Innoruuk and consider Christanos to be a heretic now.

[Niffoni]

I'm surprised that no one's commented on the words "Not two, but three".Considering its relation to Opal Darkbriar and her connections to both the scroll and Soulfire, it seems to point to some fairly obvious theories.

[goldfeesh641]

I take it by "not two but three" they are referring to the two swords of destiny possibly having a third counterpart?  Or at least, that is where it leads me to assume.Note that this is COMPLETELY speculative as there have been so many red herrings, for all we know it could be not two but three turtle doves that go along with the partridge in christanos's pear tree...

[Gukkor2]

Could also refer to a third planar shard opening up sometime soon.  It's not as if Christanos acted particularly surprised when she heard about the Shard of Hate opening.

[goldfeesh641]

It also occurs to me, what about the third obelisk?  If I'm not mistaken, there are three stages behind the obelisks? (I believe I read that somewhere).  Whatever the reason I feel like this may well have something to do with Ages End or whatever the apocalypse is called in Norrath (always forget).

[Rainmare]

the other vision mentions that the Arm assassin handing over a scroll to a woman with a dragon familiar. then there's teh mention that there's 'three, not two' and that the Freeport Emissaries had Opal assassinated so that whatever information she had, that she wouldn't give up wouldn't make it to Cristanos.Now I don't think Lucan would really care at all about planar shards of the like. he is much, much more concerned with his own personal power. and where does the bulk of his power come from. Soulfire. if there's a third weapon that can 'challenge' Soulfire, Lucan certainly wouldn't want to let it slip into Cristanos' hands. Since he sent emissaries to try and get the Claymore too.

[RaphaNissi]

It's a possibility that the "Three instead of two" refers to the scrolls used to commune with Innoruuk.  The part of the scroll used in the Cauldron Hollow event was called the Scroll of H'Dar and the one from Neriak is called the Scroll of G'Han.  In the lore story at the Athenaeum, the librarian says,  "K'Val," he hissed in a low voice, "they are all a part of it. G'Han, V'Dar, and K'Val. I am.."  (I realize he says V'Dar instead of H'Dar but that could just be a typo <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />).  We know from the Cauldron event that the Queen sent her Assassin of the Arm force to retrieve a scroll.  Maybe she tried using them and found out they wouldn't work because there is a third one out there.  It's possible she found the third one and the shard in Neriak was the result of using it.  Just speculating.

[Gukkor2]

<cite>RaphaNissi wrote:</cite><blockquote>It's a possibility that the "Three instead of two" refers to the scrolls used to commune with Innoruuk.  The part of the scroll used in the Cauldron Hollow event was called the Scroll of H'Dar and the one from Neriak is called the Scroll of G'Han.  In the lore story at the Athenaeum, the librarian says,  "K'Val," he hissed in a low voice, "they are all a part of it. G'Han, V'Dar, and K'Val. I am.."  (I realize he says V'Dar instead of H'Dar but that could just be a typo <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />).  We know from the Cauldron event that the Queen sent her Assassin of the Arm force to retrieve a scroll.  Maybe she tried using them and found out they wouldn't work because there is a third one out there.  It's possible she found the third one and the shard in Neriak was the result of using it.  Just speculating.</blockquote>I'll go with this.

[Stacca]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Arianah wrote:</cite><blockquote>(btw, the puppet graphic is the same one used in the Halloween monster mission on EQ1 where you play as the gods), here's the other picture I know of: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://myrist.nsaguild.com/eq/index.php?content=erollisi.php" target="_blank">Erollisi (in the bottom right corner of the first page)</a>Someone painted a rather beautiful image of Erollisi for a contest, it's in the Fan Art section, I even made a wallpaper out of it lol.... <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote><p>That's the very picture I spoke of.</p><p>huh? Halloween monster mission? What? This must have been added in after EQ2 came out. It sounds interesting. I wonder if Quellious finally showed up for once?</p></blockquote><p>Monster missions are instanced zones where you play as other characters, races, etc. Kinda like the arena champion pets but in an instance <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>the halloween monster mission Arianah is talking about, is part of the yearly Halloween event for EQ1. For the past 3 to 4 years, they've repeated the quest for <a href="http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=45517" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this mask</a>, which really is the best reward quest and item they offer for that event.</p><p>Oh and in the instance, your whole group consists of EQ Gods (with old old original eq crappy graphics and old crappy spells and very low stats.</p><p> Erollisi Marr (Cleric), Rallos Zek (War), Tunare (Druid), Terris Thule (Chanter), Bertox (Necro) and Cazic Thule (SK). </p>

[Chips]

<p>in game this may be true, but in reality love and hate are parallel, the true opposite of love would be indifference.</p>

[Dragonir]

<cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wait, I thought Byzola and Dymetreax were servants of Cazic-Thule.  I wonder how they (or he, rather) ended up at the side of Innoruuk.</blockquote><hr />After doing some research I came across this.<div> <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/icons/soe.gif" border="0" alt="" /> <span class="genmed"><b><span style="color: #ff0000;">Vhalen</span></b></span> </div> <span class="gensmall"> </span> In the case of Byzola and Dymetreax (a.k.a. Dymetreas), these entities have been recorded as far back as the Age of Turmoil and had dealings with Norrathians even further back. <span class="postbody"> <p>Byzola is the conjoined twin of her brother, Dymetreax. Together they are known as the Twins of Torment. They exist upon the Plane of Fear and work as agents to the ruler of that plane- Cazic-Thule. They have ventured far and wide in the name of fear. They bring about pain, both physical and mental, to any creature they see fit. </p> <p>In a time long past, they encountered a champion of mortal worlds who ventured to the Plane of Fear to do battle with the Twins of Torment. During that battle, Byzola was slain by the magical brass weapon being wielded by the mortal. Byzola now lies as a fetid corpse still attached to her still living conjoined brother. They were being bred by the Faceless to seize control of a quasi plane from an agent of the Plane of Hate. It has not been validated, but some accounts hint that Byzola is now an undead entity.</p></span> <hr />--------------I was intrigued the other evening when I took an alt to Fallen Gate and saw the prophets of Byzola and Dymetreax were in a ring event deep in the zone. So it reminded me of this thread and I was seeing if anyone has further stories to share.<span class="postbody"> </span>

[therodge]

<p>i forgot about that story interesting,<b>They were being bred by the Faceless to seize control of a quasi plane from an agent of the Plane of Hate. It has not been validated, but some accounts hint that Byzola is now an undead entity.</b> this brings in three questions</p><p>1. why is byzola the raid boss of hate if she serves caizac, did she some how take over hate from (im guessing the maestro of racor was the one in charge if inny was gone but i might be wrong) MoR </p><p>2. if byzola is one of a pair were is her brother (even if just a manifisation)</p><p>3. why is she an EE</p>

[Mr. Dawki]

<cite>Dehah@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I'm surprised the Goddess of Betrayal isn't present in Shard of Hate, as previously lore hinted that she currently resides in the Plane of Hate.</p><p>Everling is a "Servent of Theer" and a follower of the Goddess of Betrayal and since the Goddess of Betrayal is supposedly in league with Innoruk and residing in the Plane of Hate, it is a stretch but maybe Theer is the proper name for the Shard of Hate.</p><p>Mayong Mistmoore is currently searching for the 16 Monoliths of Theer, and I can't help but wonder if his search may be directly related to the Shard of Hate portal being opened.</p><p>Also, I'm pretty sure the Chelsith Stone is the Rune of Sunder. </p></blockquote><p>I WISH THEY WOULD PUT THE FREEKING CHAT LOGS INTO YOUR JOURNAL!!!!!!!!!</p><p>If i remember correctly the person you are talking about plays a very large role in the SK epic timeline. She had sommething to do with the creation or keeping of the bloodmoon gem or an orb of some sort, I can't remember offhand. She was mentioned in the same convorsation when you find out the orb no longer exists and you need the bloodmoon gem instead. </p><p>I belive she was imprisoned within the shard of hate for a very long time, just before she was assimilated into the shard itself she managed to pass the gem ( i think it was the gem) out into norath.</p>

[Ama]

<cite>Mr. Dawkins wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Dehah@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I'm surprised the Goddess of Betrayal isn't present in Shard of Hate, as previously lore hinted that she currently resides in the Plane of Hate.</p><p>Everling is a "Servent of Theer" and a follower of the Goddess of Betrayal and since the Goddess of Betrayal is supposedly in league with Innoruk and residing in the Plane of Hate, it is a stretch but maybe Theer is the proper name for the Shard of Hate.</p><p>Mayong Mistmoore is currently searching for the 16 Monoliths of Theer, and I can't help but wonder if his search may be directly related to the Shard of Hate portal being opened.</p><p>Also, I'm pretty sure the Chelsith Stone is the Rune of Sunder. </p></blockquote><p>I WISH THEY WOULD PUT THE FREEKING CHAT LOGS INTO YOUR JOURNAL!!!!!!!!!</p><p>If i remember correctly the person you are talking about plays a very large role in the SK epic timeline. She had sommething to do with the creation or keeping of the bloodmoon gem or an orb of some sort, I can't remember offhand. She was mentioned in the same convorsation when you find out the orb no longer exists and you need the bloodmoon gem instead. </p><p>I belive she was imprisoned within the shard of hate for a very long time, just before she was assimilated into the shard itself she managed to pass the gem ( i think it was the gem) out into norath.</p></blockquote>Actually I did record the log of all my conversations doing my Shadowknight's Epic.  *Cough*<a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=411682" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Lore Of The Shadowknight</a>*cough*

[Mr. Dawki]

<p>I love you.</p><p>Now is only SOE would just do the same thing for the journal, honestly is it realy that hard?</p>

[Cusashorn]

If Theer is the name of the Plane of Hate, then why would the Soulfire be it's right hand, when it's very existance is a bane to evil?