View Full Version : Paladin +ranged, and all low class +mit
Kahling
03-23-2008, 03:22 PM
<p>Just wanted to point out regarding :-</p><li><i>Guardian</i>Call to Arms line now includes ranged skill. </li><li><i>Templar</i>Redoubt line now includes ranged skill.</li><p>Paldin AA line Wisdom line "Battle Leadership" - there is no plus ranged on here and since weve been able to use bows for some time now it should be included with this update.</p><p>Also regarding the adding of Mit to the lower class sets. I wouldnt bother tbh because people will still not use half of them compared with other low tier drops / instance / collection rewards, these items need to be an improvement compared with the easier to get items, for example.</p><p> Paladin Head - less HP, less def, less overall tank item to the very easy to get collection item "Sallet of the reet knight" even if u add mit to the helm it will still stay in my appercance slot</p><p> Paladin Boots - less HP, less agi, no melle crit, no double attack chance compared with the common dropped - "Tramplers boots" that drop in PR</p><p>I could be talking rubbish here but really from a Paladins perspective they are a bit naff, they should be items u really wanna get when your guild is in the low tiers and adding mit to them is not gonna make me change the two above.</p><p> On a side note i dont understand why you put the 5 shield block on the guardian helm and the 5 shield block on the paladin chest? Why not have it so there both on the helm or both on the chest, I would preffere helm.</p><p>Regards</p><p>Kahling</p>
Wyvernblade
03-25-2008, 04:30 PM
<p>Please consider adding ranged to the Battle Leadership AA. I felt this should have been added as soon as they gave Paladins bows. But now with the recent changes to the Guard/Templar buffs, consider adding it here as well.</p>
Aeralik
03-25-2008, 05:25 PM
Battle Leadership should now buff the ranged skill as well now. It will be a few days before it makes it to test though probably but expect to see it soon.
Beldin_
03-26-2008, 06:34 AM
OMG .. but since that would make rangers overpowererd, the max ranged skill will be capped at 200 at level 80 <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />
Kahling
03-26-2008, 09:12 AM
<p>Good job on the adding ranged to this. Many thanks.</p><p>Re the lower set items. Can you consider looking in to these and comparing them to similar items that drop in the low tiers zones. You will find things like tramplers boots etc are better and far more comming in my experience. (although you have turned up the drops of the class set items I read)</p>
Kahling
03-26-2008, 09:24 AM
<p>Hi,</p><p>I was just looking at wrath stance and also notice this doesnt improve ranged? Is this a possibility as well for balance or would that be off balance?</p><p>Regards</p><p>Kahling</p>
Kahling
03-26-2008, 09:33 AM
Another balance option while we are on the WIS line would be to add +7.5 double attack to the 4th in the line per point when a shield is equiped instead of the outdated HP regen, to be honest this would give Paladins/SK's the dps boost they need to move us up to what guards and zerkers are doing. Also would mean you see more of them use their epics more. (now if the epic boosted this at the same time as its proc instead of the increased spell damage then your on a real winner with the weap)
TheGeneral
03-26-2008, 12:18 PM
<p>I will correct that line for you. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2e207fad049d4d292f60607f80f05768.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p><b>CRUSADER</b> AA line Wisdom line "Battle Leadership" - there is no plus ranged on here and since weve been able to use bows for some time now it should be included with this update.</p>
Faelgalad
03-27-2008, 06:55 AM
<cite>Kahling@Kithicor wrote:</cite><blockquote>Another balance option while we are on the WIS line would be to add +7.5 double attack to the 4th in the line per point when a shield is equiped instead of the outdated HP regen, to be honest this would give Paladins/SK's the dps boost they need to move us up to what guards and zerkers are doing. Also would mean you see more of them use their epics more. (now if the epic boosted this at the same time as its proc instead of the increased spell damage then your on a real winner with the weap)</blockquote><p>*signed*</p><p>Pro-Arguments:</p><p>- Damage scaling problem from T6-T8, takes much to long to kill thinks, makes leveling a pain in the [I cannot control my vocabulary], esspecially T8. </p><p>- 64 hp regeneration is a joke for T8, the 10% increase of cap is nothing, regeneration of 240 or 264 is nothing. </p><p>- Shadowknights tank by dps, they need it. With instable/non profi DD Gamers in casual gaming, Paladin needs more Damage, as Amend is not reliable in this situation. So the non-raiding Paladin need more DPS. </p><p>- Crusaders are seen as second-class Tanks, as Warriors are besser in defensiv AND doing more damage. </p><p>- We lost much of our abilities, as there are not much group mob content in T8. So, taken something from us, so give us something. </p><p>- Raidissue, why take a Guard-Paladin Tank combo, instead of Guard-Guard combo? A second Guard does more damage, damage is king. </p><p>- Is someone hurt with more Crusader damage, or is it a gain for the community? It's a gain. Many Crusaders changed to other classes. Getting Tanks back in buisness is an issue on Innovation server. You don't see much Paladins opening Groups for instances, even less Shadowknights. </p><p>Gimmick: </p><p>Would be nice to have Double Attack with Two-Handed Swords, they are highly underused. That would not hurt Brawler and Warriors, as they have the option of two-weapon fighting. </p>
Kahling
03-29-2008, 10:45 AM
<p>Aye, if the devs know the crusader class they will know our DPS is allot lower than the warrior class (or subclass whatever)</p><p> +7.5 Double attack with sword and baord</p><p>+5 Double attack with 2h</p><p>Instead of hp regen in wis line would go a hell of a long way to give balance. A hell of a long way.</p><p>BTW Dont get me wrong in all this I love my paladin and aint going to change it, just talking about balance here. </p><p>Hehe digressed a bit, still hope there looking in to the class set items from T1 and T2 tbh and make them desirable.</p><p>And sorry when I saw a dev had read this post I wanted to get the above WIS line change off my chest, feels like anything posted in the Paladin forum isnt read, very very rarly have I seen a comment in there from up high so excuse my devience from the origional thread post.</p><p>Regards</p><p>Kahling</p>
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