focus aim deactivatet in pvp

[T1663R]

hello,since this gu44 seems to become the great ranger "fix" or nerf i wantet to suggest to change the focus aim.now the rangers get a chance to buff the melee skills of there group in pve with focus aim, but we pvp rangers cant even use it.nearly every damage class has some good shortimers, i agree focus aim was a little bit strong for pvp, but to deativate it completely is way too much. so please activate it for pvp, i want to buff the melee skills of my group too in pvp, even if just a little.for the people who might say now "are you crazy ? focus aim is way too imba for pvp", i dont want it with his full strengh in pvp, but at least i simply dont want it deactivatet. pls try to understand us, how would you feel if your shortimers would get completely deactivatet in pvp ?no other class has there shortimers deactivatet in pvp, its just not fair.you can weaken the benefits it gives us in pvp really much, so it wouldnt be imba, but at least activate it...Greetings Hidan lvl 80 ranger - venekor

[Dracot]

<cite>Domo@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>hello,since this gu44 seems to become the great ranger "fix" or nerf i wantet to suggest to change the focus aim.now the rangers get a chance to buff the melee skills of there group in pve with focus aim, but we pvp rangers cant even use it.nearly every damage class has some good shortimers, i agree focus aim was a little bit strong for pvp, but to deativate it completely is way too much. so please activate it for pvp, i want to buff the melee skills of my group too in pvp, even if just a little.for the people who might say now "are you crazy ? focus aim is way too imba for pvp", i dont want it with his full strengh in pvp, but at least i simply dont want it deactivatet. pls try to understand us, how would you feel if your shortimers would get completely deactivatet in pvp ?no other class has there shortimers deactivatet in pvp, its just not fair.you can weaken the benefits it gives us in pvp really much, so it wouldnt be imba, but at least activate it...Greetings Hidan lvl 80 ranger - venekor </blockquote>ya like melee skills aren't overpowered in t8 pvp already.....jesus christ the devs favor melee over casters  every [Removed for Content] update then you whine?  When my necro can drop a ranger in 2 seconds then you can have all your little toys back imo.  Can't even get 1 ounce of love from the devs for my class after 2 years of /feedback, threads, and /bug reports, this is another reason why people don't want to play the LAME classes in pvp, cause devs dont' give a [Removed for Content] about us, only melee.

[koemoejoe]

get over it little necro you dealing in affairs you know nothing about your a caster please stay out of ranger forms go get your toon's class fixed stop calling for nerfs on behalf of your self and others i see necros start forms once and while complaining about how bad you class sucks kind of sounds like your all talking about solo pvp then you say u get droped in 2 sec even in group on group pvp then yes your class should be killed in 2sec flat or the group your facing is in big trubble i guess you forgot how insane your dmg and conj dmg truely is being blinded by the fact you die so fastget over it your class is vary powerfull and is dealt with vary fast as they should be

[heavymetalbard]

<cite>Domo@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>since this gu44 seems to become the great ranger "fix" or nerf i wantet to suggest to change the focus aim.now the rangers get a chance to buff the melee skills of there group in pve with focus aim, but we pvp rangers cant even use it.nearly every damage class has some good shortimers, i agree focus aim was a little bit strong for pvp, but to deativate it completely is way too much. so please activate it for pvp, i want to buff the melee skills of my group too in pvp, even if just a little.for the people who might say now "are you crazy ? focus aim is way too imba for pvp", i dont want it with his full strengh in pvp, but at least i simply dont want it deactivatet. pls try to understand us, how would you feel if your shortimers would get completely deactivatet in pvp ?no other class has there shortimers deactivatet in pvp, its just not fair.you can weaken the benefits it gives us in pvp really much, so it wouldnt be imba, but at least activate it...</blockquote>100 % agree

[Magius789]

<p>I agree as well.  The group buff to melee skills is a great start to making us a bit more attractive for a group but in PvP it still has no use. </p><p>Bring back our Focus Aim in PvP but to a lesser degree.  Say half of what they are in PvE?</p>

[heavymetalbard]

<cite>Magius789 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Bring back our Focus Aim in PvP but to a lesser degree.  Say half of what they are in PvE?</p></blockquote>i totaly agree, half of pve would be not overpowered, but ok.

[T1663R]

well aeralik, what do you say ?

[Sightless]

<cite>Dracot72 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Domo@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>hello,since this gu44 seems to become the great ranger "fix" or nerf i wantet to suggest to change the focus aim.now the rangers get a chance to buff the melee skills of there group in pve with focus aim, but we pvp rangers cant even use it.nearly every damage class has some good shortimers, i agree focus aim was a little bit strong for pvp, but to deativate it completely is way too much. so please activate it for pvp, i want to buff the melee skills of my group too in pvp, even if just a little.for the people who might say now "are you crazy ? focus aim is way too imba for pvp", i dont want it with his full strengh in pvp, but at least i simply dont want it deactivatet. pls try to understand us, how would you feel if your shortimers would get completely deactivatet in pvp ?no other class has there shortimers deactivatet in pvp, its just not fair.you can weaken the benefits it gives us in pvp really much, so it wouldnt be imba, but at least activate it...Greetings Hidan lvl 80 ranger - venekor </blockquote>ya like melee skills aren't overpowered in t8 pvp already.....jesus christ the devs favor melee over casters  every [I cannot control my vocabulary] update then you whine?  When my necro can drop a ranger in 2 seconds then you can have all your little toys back imo.  Can't even get 1 ounce of love from the devs for my class after 2 years of /feedback, threads, and /bug reports, this is another reason why people don't want to play the LAME classes in pvp, cause devs dont' give a [I cannot control my vocabulary] about us, only melee.</blockquote>Dracot, I looked at your gear, GET SOME BETTER GEAR FOR PVP ALREADY! What works in PvE instances will not work for PvP.

[heavymetalbard]

well seems like aeralik doesnt wana answer us about this ...

[Hummelch]

Rangers are fine..

[Magius789]

<cite>Hummelchen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Rangers are fine..</blockquote><p>Brigands are OP...</p><p>Go away Ajjantis, you don't have a ranger and know nothing of the class.  You don't belong in a thread discussing class dynamics of a class you don't play.  Especially since all of your outrageous posts you've done just to get us nerfed so you didn't have to worry about us.  Its evident you just hate rangers, also considering you are quitting your opinion isn't needed.</p>

[Hummelch]

<cite>Magius789 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Hummelchen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Rangers are fine..</blockquote><p>Brigands are OP...</p><p>Go away Ajjantis, you don't have a ranger and know nothing of the class.  You don't belong in a thread discussing class dynamics of a class you don't play.  Especially since all of your outrageous posts you've done just to get us nerfed so you didn't have to worry about us.  Its evident you just hate rangers, also considering you are quitting your opinion isn't needed.</p></blockquote>Wrong, i have a ranger. And yes Brigs are OP <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Magius789]

Please tell us the name of your lvl 80 ranger.  See if you had a ranger and we are as strong as you make us out to be you'd play him all the time since you like strong classess.

[Odawnus Haste]

I would also like to see some form of focus aim back in pvp. Since we didn't recieve a huge damage increase from T7 it should be fine now. Shouldn't it?

[Ecnomorc]

<p>Yep its pretty screwed up that all the other classes have incombat crazy insta buffs but our best one gets nerfed. If they dont want it to be cast in combat fine.... make it out of combat castable so we still have to start with it. Maybe lower the buff itself a bit if you have too... just give us our buff back for pvp.</p>

[Zacarus]

They really should re-introduce focus aim in pvp.  Its silly to just remove it, when its obvious the capability to tone it down exists.

[Bozidar]

<cite>Zacarus@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>They really should re-introduce focus aim in pvp.  Its silly to just remove it, when its obvious the capability to tone it down exists.</blockquote><p>And here I was coming to complain that it IS enabled in pvp servers, and rangers are using it.</p><p>Rangers running around 1-shotting people isn't something I think should be re-introduced into pvp.  They have plenty of dps, they dont need this.</p>

[Odawnus Haste]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zacarus@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>They really should re-introduce focus aim in pvp.  Its silly to just remove it, when its obvious the capability to tone it down exists.</blockquote><p>And here I was coming to complain that it IS enabled in pvp servers, and rangers are using it.</p><p>Rangers running around 1-shotting people isn't something I think should be re-introduced into pvp.  They have plenty of dps, they dont need this.</p></blockquote>You mean where you buff it before you are hit with any hostile action and get it to use it for 1 attack before it becomes completely useless. I'm not even one shotting people, so your exaggerating. They should reintroduce it, there is no reason why they should removed the buff completely. They could have easily removed the crit and dps mod. If they would have just left the haste people wouldn't be so up in arms. Its not really fair pvp if you can only AA every 5.3 seconds not to mention can't move while casting range CAs, while every other scout still have all their haste/dps mod buffs in which they can still kill you before your next auto attack.

[Bozidar]

<cite>Odawnus Haste wrote:</cite><blockquote>You mean where you buff it before you are hit with any hostile action and get it to use it for 1 attack before it becomes completely useless. I'm not even one shotting people, so your exaggerating. They should reintroduce it, there is no reason why they should removed the buff completely. They could have easily removed the crit and dps mod. If they would have just left the haste people wouldn't be so up in arms. Its not really fair pvp if you can only AA every 5.3 seconds not to mention can't move while casting range CAs, while every other scout still have all their haste/dps mod buffs in which they can still kill you before your next auto attack. </blockquote><p>Thx for admitting that you know about it and exploit it today.</p><p>Just because you're not 1-shotting people, doesn't mean other rangers aren't.  My brother has a fury who got 1-shot the night before last, by a ranger... facing him.</p>

[Wytie]

<cite>Domo@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>hello,since this gu44 seems to become the great ranger "fix" or nerf i wantet to suggest to change the focus aim.now the rangers get a chance to buff the melee skills of there group in pve with focus aim, but we pvp rangers cant even use it.nearly every damage class has some good shortimers, i agree focus aim was a little bit strong for pvp, but to deativate it completely is way too much. so please activate it for pvp, i want to buff the melee skills of my group too in pvp, even if just a little.for the people who might say now "are you crazy ? focus aim is way too imba for pvp", i dont want it with his full strengh in pvp, but at least i simply dont want it deactivatet. pls try to understand us, how would you feel if your shortimers would get completely deactivatet in pvp ?no other class has there shortimers deactivatet in pvp, its just not fair.you can weaken the benefits it gives us in pvp really much, so it wouldnt be imba, but at least activate it...Greetings Hidan lvl 80 ranger - venekor </blockquote>I approve of this statment!

[Ecnomorc]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Odawnus Haste wrote:</cite><blockquote>You mean where you buff it before you are hit with any hostile action and get it to use it for 1 attack before it becomes completely useless. I'm not even one shotting people, so your exaggerating. They should reintroduce it, there is no reason why they should removed the buff completely. They could have easily removed the crit and dps mod. If they would have just left the haste people wouldn't be so up in arms. Its not really fair pvp if you can only AA every 5.3 seconds not to mention can't move while casting range CAs, while every other scout still have all their haste/dps mod buffs in which they can still kill you before your next auto attack. </blockquote><p>Thx for admitting that you know about it and exploit it today.</p><p>Just because you're not 1-shotting people, doesn't mean other rangers aren't.  My brother has a fury who got 1-shot the night before last, by a ranger... facing him.</p></blockquote> Its not an exploit... I'm sure Sony knows full well that it effects the first shot soo shutup. Second I love it when people wine about getting one shoted by a ranger... cause fact is its never a one shot kill. Unless one shot to you is double attack with caustic, offensive, intoxication and the bow proc. Ranged double attack items are far and few between on many items cause everything is geared toward melee classes. I'm sick of people complaining about rangers one shotting people when in fact its never ever a one shot not a true one shot. My Sniper Arrow Master I cant even truly one shot someone, and my str is 700 self buffed.... so basically if your going to take the time to [I cannot control my vocabulary] and waste our time [I cannot control my vocabulary] then I suggest you know your [I cannot control my vocabulary] and get it right... stop exaggerating things and saying they are one shots. Everyone has see stealth/invis totems so its not like your brothers fury wasn't able to see the ranger. He got the jump on him just like we have to and he got pwned end of story. If you wanna complain that its unfair for a ranger to have the upper hand when he gets the jump on someone and kill them with multiple attacks/procs before they can blink an eye then fine... gl with trying to get the soul purpose of the Ranger class changed. You dont see rangers in other class forums asking for nerfage of a class cause the fact is veteran ranger are used to sony swinging the nerf bat at em every other update. We got plenty to do trying to get our class where it needs to be... why waste our time complaining that another class needs a nerf. Some classes just tend to fair better against other classes... meaning somone generally has the upper hand in a fight just because of what classes they are. That makes perfect sense and it should be like that, ontop of that there are many many other factors that go into a fight that will determine who has the upper hand. Where its started, terrain, who starts it first, gear, spells, and player skills just to name a few.The funniest thing of all is your brother is [I cannot control my vocabulary] about rangers being OP when hes plays a freaking fury..... go figure, (sarcasm start) its not like furys are overpowered one bit (end sarcasm) If you wanna talk [Removed for Content] exploits then why dont we talk about furys using their pets to knock people out of immunity in safe spots... Oh you dont wanna talk about that? Thats what I thought...

[Odawnus Haste]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Odawnus Haste wrote:</cite><blockquote>You mean where you buff it before you are hit with any hostile action and get it to use it for 1 attack before it becomes completely useless. I'm not even one shotting people, so your exaggerating. They should reintroduce it, there is no reason why they should removed the buff completely. They could have easily removed the crit and dps mod. If they would have just left the haste people wouldn't be so up in arms. Its not really fair pvp if you can only AA every 5.3 seconds not to mention can't move while casting range CAs, while every other scout still have all their haste/dps mod buffs in which they can still kill you before your next auto attack. </blockquote><p>Thx for admitting that you know about it and exploit it today.</p><p>Just because you're not 1-shotting people, doesn't mean other rangers aren't.  My brother has a fury who got 1-shot the night before last, by a ranger... facing him.</p></blockquote>Just like your brother exploits pact of the cheetah.

[Trojamonkee]

Furies overpowered? lol you just lost all credibility...Is that why they are like gold-dust now with most betraying over to warden on pvp servers?And pact of the cheetah is totally useless now, especially vs rangers with extension at the front of a qeynos x10 in dregs (like ecnomorc revive zerg  king). One 60-70m arrow as you hit cheetah and your 0% speed and dead.

[Trojamonkee]

Kailly dumped fury for warden didn't she? I think she was the most well known fury around. Speaks volumes.

[Odawnus Haste]

<cite>Trojamonkee wrote:</cite><blockquote>Furies overpowered? lol you just lost all credibility...Is that why they are like gold-dust now with most betraying over to warden on pvp servers?And pact of the cheetah is totally useless now, especially vs rangers with extension at the front of a qeynos x10 in dregs (like ecnomorc revive zerg  king). One 60-70m arrow as you hit cheetah and your 0% speed and dead.</blockquote>What are you talking about, you seem to have no clue. When did I say furies were overpowered. I was simply saying that if you buff it before anybody hits you can run around away 100% combat even if they beat on you, but as soon as you engage it drops. Just like focus aim if you buff it before you enter pvp combat you only lose it after you engage. So plz QQ more and comprehend a bit OK.

[Odawnus Haste]

<cite>Trojamonkee wrote:</cite><blockquote>Kailly dumped fury for warden didn't she? I think she was the most well known fury around. Speaks volumes.</blockquote>Speak volumes because you don't have a clue to what you are talking about. Im glad that you can speak for Kaily but you are totally wrong thinking she went warden for pvp reasons. Next time ask Kaily yourself before making yourself look like a fool.

[Bozidar]

<cite>Odawnus Haste wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Trojamonkee wrote:</cite><blockquote>Furies overpowered? lol you just lost all credibility...Is that why they are like gold-dust now with most betraying over to warden on pvp servers?And pact of the cheetah is totally useless now, especially vs rangers with extension at the front of a qeynos x10 in dregs (like ecnomorc revive zerg  king). One 60-70m arrow as you hit cheetah and your 0% speed and dead.</blockquote>What are you talking about, you seem to have no clue. When did I say furies were overpowered. I was simply saying that if you buff it before anybody hits you can run around away 100% combat even if they beat on you, but as soon as you engage it drops. Just like focus aim if you buff it before you enter pvp combat you only lose it after you engage. So plz QQ more and comprehend a bit OK.</blockquote><p>It amuses me when people tell others they're clueless.  You did indeed imply that furies are overpowered, which honestly they are, from 23 till until around lvl 50 or so.  Oh noez.. a class is overpowered for 27 middle levels of the game.  This coming from a ranger?  hilarious.</p><p>1) Focus Aim was supposedly removed from pvp.  It was posted in the notes that it would no longer work during pvp combat.  It does.  For rangers to tell us that we should ASSUME that SoE knows it works on the first hit seems rather silly.  I mean, we shouldn't discuss how the game doesn't work as the update notes say it should?  Really?  Ok, but you should probably stop whining about Brigands safe house, since SoE probably intended it to work that way.</p><p>2) Pact of the Cheetah isn't an exploit.  To my knowledge it was never in the update notes specifically that it would no longer work in PvP.  The reason Pact ceased to work in pvp is because it's a CURE spell on top of a speed buff.  Casting it prior to combat and then engaging isn't an exploit at all, its just how the spell works.  If he's not engaged then his cure doesn't put him into combat, and the group speed buff goes off.</p><p>3) I'm not sure who the person is above that says my brother "exploits" this mechanic.  To my knowledge the only time he uses potc is when we're chasing someone, and thus yes it gets used prior to combat -- shocking, i know.  Either way, seems kinda silly AGAIN to respond to "Thanks for admitting you exploit" with a response of "Your brother exploits!" when A) You dont know who my brother is, and B) You dont know if he does or not.</p><p>Schools out.</p>

[Odawnus Haste]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Odawnus Haste wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Trojamonkee wrote:</cite><blockquote>Furies overpowered? lol you just lost all credibility...Is that why they are like gold-dust now with most betraying over to warden on pvp servers?And pact of the cheetah is totally useless now, especially vs rangers with extension at the front of a qeynos x10 in dregs (like ecnomorc revive zerg  king). One 60-70m arrow as you hit cheetah and your 0% speed and dead.</blockquote>What are you talking about, you seem to have no clue. When did I say furies were overpowered. I was simply saying that if you buff it before anybody hits you can run around away 100% combat even if they beat on you, but as soon as you engage it drops. Just like focus aim if you buff it before you enter pvp combat you only lose it after you engage. So plz QQ more and comprehend a bit OK.</blockquote><p>It amuses me when people tell others they're clueless.  You did indeed imply that furies are overpowered, which honestly they are, from 23 till until around lvl 50 or so.  Oh noez.. a class is overpowered for 27 middle levels of the game.  This coming from a ranger?  hilarious.</p><p>1) Focus Aim was supposedly removed from pvp.  It was posted in the notes that it would no longer work during pvp combat.  It does.  For rangers to tell us that we should ASSUME that SoE knows it works on the first hit seems rather silly.  I mean, we shouldn't discuss how the game doesn't work as the update notes say it should?  Really?  Ok, but you should probably stop whining about Brigands safe house, since SoE probably intended it to work that way.</p><p>2) Pact of the Cheetah isn't an exploit.  To my knowledge it was never in the update notes specifically that it would no longer work in PvP.  The reason Pact ceased to work in pvp is because it's a CURE spell on top of a speed buff.  Casting it prior to combat and then engaging isn't an exploit at all, its just how the spell works.  If he's not engaged then his cure doesn't put him into combat, and the group speed buff goes off.</p><p>3) I'm not sure who the person is above that says my brother "exploits" this mechanic.  To my knowledge the only time he uses potc is when we're chasing someone, and thus yes it gets used prior to combat -- shocking, i know.  Either way, seems kinda silly AGAIN to respond to "Thanks for admitting you exploit" with a response of "Your brother exploits!" when A) You dont know who my brother is, and B) You dont know if he does or not.</p><p>Schools out.</p></blockquote><p>LOL, I simply compare a skill that is not pvp combat. You basically tried to put words in my mouth saying I said furies were overpowered. I could have used any ability for another class that doesn't work in pvp and you would say the same thing. Both skill work before you engage in pvp combat, this is what I said and you have tried to make it out like im saying something totally different. No I don't know who your brother is and nor do I care. You say buffing something before engaging in pvp is an exploit then your brother is an exploiter since he buffs pact of the cheetah to escape/chase pvp. I don't recall about whining about brigs safehouse, you tend to put alot of words in my mouth. Also your quote of me is wrong too, putting more words in my mouth. So I can gather a few things about you, you tend to make things up and you still have no legit arguement.</p><p>Also they removed pact of the cheetah because of the run speed, which they removed from rangers(80% sprint) as well as many other classes. If you want I can bring up the LU, since you seem to think you know everything.</p>

[Bozidar]

<cite>Odawnus Haste wrote:</cite><blockquote> You say buffing something before engaging in pvp is an exploit then your brother is an exploiter since he buffs pact of the cheetah to escape/chase pvp. I don't recall about whining about brigs safehouse, you tend to put alot of words in my mouth. Also your quote of me is wrong too, putting more words in my mouth. So I can gather a few things about you, you tend to make things up and you still have no legit arguement. <p>Also they removed pact of the cheetah because of the run speed, which they removed from rangers(80% sprint) as well as many other classes. If you want I can bring up the LU, since you seem to think you know everything.</p></blockquote><p>No, i dont say "buffing something before engaging in pvp is an exploit".  I say that the devs specifically removed, or intended to remove, Focus Aim from PvP.  Buffing THAT buff, knowing that it does work while engaged if you pre-cast it, is an exploit.</p><p>I dont think an ogre's Strength temp buff/ooc health regen buff would be an exploit to buff pre-fight.  I dont think so of the zerker's one either -- both of which can't be cast in combat, if i'm not mistaken.  Those are pre-fight buffs.</p><p>Pact of the Cheetah wasn't specifically nerfed, go read the LU if you think you know everything.  the reason it doesn't work in combat (because you CAN cast it in combat, unlike Focus Aim, and actually it's still quite usefull) is because it's a cure.</p><p>so to sum up... focus aim = broken.  using it = exploit.  questions?</p>

[Odawnus Haste]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Odawnus Haste wrote:</cite><blockquote> You say buffing something before engaging in pvp is an exploit then your brother is an exploiter since he buffs pact of the cheetah to escape/chase pvp. I don't recall about whining about brigs safehouse, you tend to put alot of words in my mouth. Also your quote of me is wrong too, putting more words in my mouth. So I can gather a few things about you, you tend to make things up and you still have no legit arguement. <p>Also they removed pact of the cheetah because of the run speed, which they removed from rangers(80% sprint) as well as many other classes. If you want I can bring up the LU, since you seem to think you know everything.</p></blockquote><p>No, i dont say "buffing something before engaging in pvp is an exploit".  I say that the devs specifically removed, or intended to remove, Focus Aim from PvP.  Buffing THAT buff, knowing that it does work while engaged if you pre-cast it, is an exploit.</p><p>I dont think an ogre's Strength temp buff/ooc health regen buff would be an exploit to buff pre-fight.  I dont think so of the zerker's one either -- both of which can't be cast in combat, if i'm not mistaken.  Those are pre-fight buffs.</p><p>Pact of the Cheetah wasn't specifically nerfed, go read the LU if you think you know everything.  the reason it doesn't work in combat (because you CAN cast it in combat, unlike Focus Aim, and actually it's still quite usefull) is because it's a cure.</p><p>so to sum up... focus aim = broken.  using it = exploit.  questions?</p></blockquote>They nerfed all run speed, so it was specifically nerfed. Bards and sprint are the only in combat run speed.  You just try to dance around the bush, so its an exploit because you believe it is one. Where are the devs saying it is? So basically I can't buff my focus aim anymore even when I want to kill mobs because I will get jumped and I shouldn't fight back cause its an exploit. Do you even have a T8 toon? I'm done talking with you, you and your brother are exploiters since buffing before you enter combat is an exploit.  Focus aim does not work in pvp and it doesn't, so stop trying to make things up. Once you engage someone the buff drops, why don't you go roll a ranger instead of just making up things and passing it along as facts. 

[Bozidar]

<cite>Odawnus Haste wrote:</cite><blockquote>They nerfed all run speed, so it was specifically nerfed. Bards and sprint are the only in combat run speed.  You just try to dance around the bush, so its an exploit because you believe it is one. Where are the devs saying it is? So basically I can't buff my focus aim anymore even when I want to kill mobs because I will get jumped and I shouldn't fight back cause its an exploit. Do you even have a T8 toon? I'm done talking with you, you and your brother are exploiters since buffing before you enter combat is an exploit.  Focus aim does not work in pvp and it doesn't, so stop trying to make things up. Once you engage someone the buff drops, why don't you go roll a ranger instead of just making up things and passing it along as facts. </blockquote><p>I thought you were going to get the LU and shut me up with the update notes?</p><p>I'm not dancing around anything, it was never specifically targeted as being removed.  They vaguley said that many incombat movement speed buffs would not work in combat any longer.  </p><p>Focus Aim?  they were quite specific about it.</p><p>Btw, there are still about a dozen or other in-combat speed buffs besides sprint and bards.. it's not my fault you dont know the game, dont argue with me if you dont know what you're talking about.</p>

[Odawnus Haste]

<cite>Bozidar wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Odawnus Haste wrote:</cite><blockquote>They nerfed all run speed, so it was specifically nerfed. Bards and sprint are the only in combat run speed.  You just try to dance around the bush, so its an exploit because you believe it is one. Where are the devs saying it is? So basically I can't buff my focus aim anymore even when I want to kill mobs because I will get jumped and I shouldn't fight back cause its an exploit. Do you even have a T8 toon? I'm done talking with you, you and your brother are exploiters since buffing before you enter combat is an exploit.  Focus aim does not work in pvp and it doesn't, so stop trying to make things up. Once you engage someone the buff drops, why don't you go roll a ranger instead of just making up things and passing it along as facts. </blockquote><p>I thought you were going to get the LU and shut me up with the update notes?</p><p>I'm not dancing around anything, it was never specifically targeted as being removed.  They vaguley said that many incombat movement speed buffs would not work in combat any longer.  </p><p>Focus Aim?  they were quite specific about it.</p><p>Btw, there are still about a dozen or other in-combat speed buffs besides sprint and bards.. it's not my fault you dont know the game, dont argue with me if you dont know what you're talking about.</p></blockquote><p>I said I would get the LU if you want, nowhere I said was just going to post it. LU36</p><p><b>PVP</b> </p><ul><li><b>General </b><ul><li>Damage was reduced at the higher levels based on class. Rogues, predators, sorcerers and summoners had the greatest reduction. Druids, enchanters and brawlers fall in the middle while the others had lower amounts of damage reduction. Hopefully this will make fights a bit longer at the high end. </li><li>All in combat run speeds will now disable except for the bard achievement which grants in combat run speed to selos. </li><li>The message for entering into combat should display properly now when you heal yourself. </li><li>An issue has been resolved that was keeping good aligned players from attacking exiles in Kelethin. </li><li>Achievement points spent will now be limited to 1.5 times your level. If you are currently above this point then you will get a forced free respec. You will still keep your points and be able to gain additional points however you can not spend over the limit until you gain additional levels. </li><li>Carnage flagged players should now gain immunity when zoning outside of cities. </li><li>It should now be easier to land spells on higher levels players in pvp. </li><li>Experience Debt has been removed from pvp servers. </li><li>Enchanter Stamina 5 now has a pvp effect to clear the attacker's target. </li><li>Mystic lake now has an unlimited level range. </li><li>Added PvP versions to Summoner achievements Magic Leash and Perceptors Command </li><li>Added PvP version to Rogue achievement Swear. </li><li>Added a recast timer to cures on healers in PVP. </li><li>Scaled healing down at the high ends similar to the damage scaling in PVP. </li><li>Lowered the heal percentage on vision of madness while the berserker is berserk and in pvp combat. </li><li>Lowered the heal amount of Warden spores while in pvp. </li><li>Adjusted the damage output on the healing classes. </li></ul></li></ul><p>Why do they need to be specific with it, when everything got nerf except for bards. When they took out focus aim should they have posted everything they didn't nerf? You sound like a child. Also you completely miss my point I could careless what focus aim does or pact of the cheetah they are both buffs that don't work while engaged in pvp combat, but they do work if you buff them before anybody hits you and as soon as you engage they drop. Don't know how much more detailed I can be to get through your hard head. Just like a fury can buff their group and their members still run around at 100% while attacking people so thats not an exploit huh? Going by your logic it is.</p>

[Roald]

<cite>Odawnus Haste wrote:</cite><blockquote><ul><ul><li>Rogues, predators, sorcerers and<span style="font-size: small;"> summoners</span> had the greatest reduction. </li></ul></ul></blockquote><p>That's just further proof the devs have no idea about PvP <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>About Focus Aim, Rangers are OP enough already, thanks.</p>

[Magius789]

<cite>Milambers@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Odawnus Haste wrote:</cite><blockquote><ul><ul><li>Rogues, predators, sorcerers and<span style="font-size: small;"> summoners</span> had the greatest reduction. </li></ul></ul></blockquote><p>That's just further proof the devs have no idea about PvP <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>About Focus Aim, Rangers are OP enough already, thanks.</p></blockquote>The simple fact that you think rangers are more powerful than brigands proves that you are either a simple ranger hater or are just extremely freeport biases.  Rangers are below Assassins, Brigands, and Swashy's in terms of their power.

[Darry]

Some of you seriously have no clue if you think rangers are overpowered, I can out DPS rangers ranged on my assassin and Paladin, how is that fair? Bring back Focus Aim in some form for PvP servers.