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Boramyr
03-22-2008, 09:22 AM
<p>I wanted to pull this out of where i cropped up in the Arrow thread.  </p><p>I don't quite understand the reasoning for the reduction in proc percentage.  Normalizing it to 5.33 instead of whatever the weapon is.  </p><p>This effects everyone that uses a weapon over 5.33 second delays but due to the way most things works it will affect rangers the most with our 9 second delay standard bows and then Crusaders second most with their 6 second delay two handed swords.  </p><p>Aeralik said himself in the arrow thread that ranger dps was fine, and yet this proc nerf comes along.  Roughly 20% of my own dps comes from procs and this change will reduce procs for me by about 48% thus lowering my overall dps by about 9.7%  And yes there are some folks that have done testing on this to prove my math and they posted in the arrow changes thread and I hope they move that out here.  </p><p>So why do rangers deserve a 10% reduction in dps?</p><p>I don't know the percentage for Crusaders, but why do they deserve any reduction in anything?</p>

bodomite
03-22-2008, 11:12 AM
i think people are staring themselves blind at rangers being able to pull off 11k autoattack hits, forgetting the melee classes who hit 6k twice as fast, doubleattacking more, critting more and now even flurrying those attacks.Rangers are now down even further on the dps list. With wellplayed classes, rangers are ranking about 5th now (behind assassin, swash, brig, wiz) - after this we are lucky to hit 7th. And we dont have any of the utility that all of the mentioned classes have, be it debuffing or buffing wise. The groupbuff is a bit of a joke right now, nobody is going to need a hitrate buff when orange con hitrates have been fixed. If the buff was raidwide with crits for both melee and caster alike, then we would be talking utility.

Anekuh
03-22-2008, 11:47 AM
<cite>bodomite wrote:</cite><blockquote>i think people are staring themselves blind at rangers being able to pull off 11k autoattack hits, forgetting the melee classes who hit 6k twice as fast, doubleattacking more, critting more and now even flurrying those attacks.Rangers are now down even further on the dps list. <b>With wellplayed classes, rangers are ranking about 5th now (behind assassin, swash, brig, wiz) - after this we are lucky to hit 7th. And we dont have any of the utility that all of the mentioned classes have, be it debuffing or buffing wise. </b>The groupbuff is a bit of a joke right now, nobody is going to need a hitrate buff when orange con hitrates have been fixed. If the buff was raidwide with crits for both melee and caster alike, then we would be talking utility.</blockquote><p>Yep. You are so correct. Now, we have Swasshies and Brigs beating us. I'm so sick of seeing Rangers fall below everyone when it comes to dps.</p>