Yellow textures, need advice please.

[Elorah]

I recently upgraded to an Geforce 8600 GT 512 MB ram card.  SInce then I have been having some odd issues.  I managed to solve one of them, but still have two more left.  I will show you a screenie that I took of one of my more annoying issues.I have upgraded with the latest Nvidia drivers as well as the XFX (manufacturer) drivers.  Reinstalled DirectX and we keep getting these types of images at various times during gameplay.  Some times it will take most of the screen, or sometimes it will be just a few small things like Plate armor.  At times it will disappear when I move the camera as well.I do run in Dual screen mode.  I play on my main monitor which is at 1280x1024.  My browser monitor is set at 1024x768.  Please note that this set up worked fine before I upgraded....I monitor the temperature which usually runs about 50 celsius.  According to the info that I found, these cards seem to be certified to at least 110 celsius (peak) <img src="http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s106/sariana57/EQ2_000038.jpg" alt="" border="0" />I will post some of my recent DxDiag so that anyone that is able to help can see what I have....Sorry fo the long post, but I wanted to give as much info as I could right from the start....  Thanks for any assistance.------------------System Information------------------Time of this report: 3/21/2008, 09:36:09       Machine name: NIKA-PC   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)System Manufacturer: System manufacturer       System Model: System Product Name               BIOS: BIOS Date: 02/20/08 15:54:21 Ver: 08.00.12          Processor: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.40GHz (2 CPUs)             Memory: 2048MB RAM          Page File: 1115MB used, 4876MB available        Windows Dir: C:WINDOWS    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)DX Setup Parameters: Not found     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode------------DxDiag Notes------------  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.      Display Tab 1: No problems found.      Display Tab 2: No problems found.        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.          Music Tab: No problems found.          Input Tab: No problems found.        Network Tab: No problems found.--------------------DirectX Debug Levels--------------------Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)---------------Display Devices---------------        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT      Manufacturer: NVIDIA        Chip type: GeForce 8600 GT         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC       Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_10DE&DEV_0402&SUBSYS_22851682&REV_A1   Display Memory: 512.0 MB     Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)          Monitor: Default Monitor  Monitor Max Res:       Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.6932 (English)      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 1/9/2008 01:53:00, 5775104 bytes      WHQL Logo'd: Yes  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a              VDD: n/a         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys    Mini VDD Date: 1/9/2008 01:53:00, 7434336 bytesDevice Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4742-11CF-266E-8E0200C2CB35}        Vendor ID: 0x10DE        Device ID: 0x0402        SubSys ID: 0x22851682      Revision ID: 0x00A1      Revision ID: 0x00A1      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A  Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch                    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch                    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch                    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch          Registry: OK     DDraw Status: Enabled       D3D Status: Enabled       AGP Status: EnabledDDraw Test Result: Not run D3D7 Test Result: Not run D3D8 Test Result: Not run D3D9 Test Result: Not run        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT      Manufacturer: NVIDIA        Chip type: GeForce 8600 GT         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC       Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_10DE&DEV_0402&SUBSYS_22851682&REV_A1   Display Memory: 512.0 MB     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz)          Monitor: Default Monitor  Monitor Max Res:       Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.6932 (English)      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 1/9/2008 01:53:00, 5775104 bytes      WHQL Logo'd: Yes  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a              VDD: n/a         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys    Mini VDD Date: 1/9/2008 01:53:00, 7434336 bytesDevice Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4742-11CF-266E-8E0200C2CB35}        Vendor ID: 0x10DE        Device ID: 0x0402        SubSys ID: 0x22851682      Revision ID: 0x00A1      Revision ID: 0x00A1      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A  Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch                    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch                    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch                    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch          Registry: OK     DDraw Status: Enabled       D3D Status: Enabled       AGP Status: Enabled

[Nuluvius]

card cud be nackerd.. I assume u tryed researching the issue in the manufacturer forums as well as other generic places?

[Elorah]

Yep..  Looked on the manufacturer too...  NO luck there.  It is a new card too.  We are considering sending it back to see if it is just a bad one...  I have been getting E_outofmemory errors and D3Derrors as well...I am beginning to think that this upgrade was not much of one...  lol

[Elorah]

Anything?  Yes, this is a shameless bump in hopes that a TSR may see it (if they are open today that is)On another note...  It is happening more often as well as the E_OUTOFMEMORY and the D3derr_notavailable errors.We have tested the Graphics card using Futuremark and everything seems to be ok with it...  temps are still good on it as well...  We have just run out of ideas to be honest.  My husband is GREAT with computers, but even he is at a loss... lolOn a side note..  THis is what I got once in BBM looking at a Ratonga...<img src="http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s106/sariana57/EQ2_000054.jpg" border="0" alt="" />*apologies to Ridopest*  But I have to know what is causing this ill formed disease on Ratonga's..  *wink*

[TSR-DanT]

Have you run driver cleaners to be sure you've removed all forms of the previous card's drivers?  Some times remains of other driver versions can cause issues.

[Elorah]

<cite>TSR-DanT wrote:</cite><blockquote>Have you run driver cleaners to be sure you've removed all forms of the previous card's drivers?  Some times remains of other driver versions can cause issues.</blockquote>Now THAT we have not tried...  any suggestions?  We think that he manually got everything, but you never know with these aliens...lol*edit* I found one in your Knowledge base....  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://drivercleaner.net/" target="_blank">http://drivercleaner.net/</a>Heres to hoping.  I will let you know.  Thanks for posting!*edit part 2*  Well it looked like I still had some ATI junk in tehre.  so I removed ATI, rebooted, then removed Nvidia drivers as well.  rebooted and reinstalled the newest Nvidia through My manufacturer of the card (xfxforce).  Nvidia still had an old version up....I will be playing in game to test it and hopefully I will not come back looking for help...  I will keep you posted though.  Thanks again!

[Nuluvius]

Indeed - leads away from the assumption of a card fault. It may, if failing a driver clean, be something spesific to textures.. tho youd have probebly tryed the game with lower gfx settings already. Quite a bizare issue there! I have never seen something resembling it in all the years Iv worked with comps.

[Elorah]

Well, I played a bit yesterday, though I only was harvesting and crafting....  But I didnt see any yellow textures yet.But this morning as I was walking to the Ironforge exchange in NQ, I got this error...<i><b>Everquest II has detected an unrecoverable error and must shutdown.<verify> E:liveeq2frameworkcoredevicessrcDirectX9RenderDevi ce.cpp(2391)DirectX Error. (E_OUTOFMEMORY)</b></i>Any ideas?  We have tried to uninstall DirectX and reinstall it...  again, we are at a loss...  I have also been getting an D3derr E_NOT AVAILABLE error once ina while too.  Once I get that one again, I will write is down exactly as it says...

[Nuluvius]

It sounds to me, texture orientated... My own course of action would be at this point to swap the card out with a known good card and see what happens. Id also run a test at the same time with the suspect card in a different system. Just to attempt to completely eliviate hardware issues. I suspected your processor but after you stated the last dx error I seriously doubt it.

[Trilarian-2]

Generic response seems to be: 1) Make sure you have a current copy of all related files before doing this.. 2) remove or uninstall all related files... 3) reinstall chipset drivers 4) reinstall DirectX 5) reinstall display drivers 6) Delete your EQ2 ini files 7) Delete your EQ2 GUI folder 8) repatch EQ2<a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?&topic_id=44951" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?&topic_id=364955" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Here</a> is the main thread on this issue...

[Elorah]

<cite>Nuluvius wrote:</cite><blockquote>It sounds to me, texture orientated... My own course of action would be at this point to swap the card out with a known good card and see what happens. Id also run a test at the same time with the suspect card in a different system. Just to attempt to completely eliviate hardware issues. I suspected your processor but after you stated the last dx error I seriously doubt it.</blockquote>That is actually the plan for tonight <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  putting this card in my husbands PC and testing it there, while I have his in mine...I was just hoping to not do something so drastic....  But we will know more later hopefully.  Thanks for your input!

[Elorah]

As an update to this issue.  We did not  do the swap out...  We instead got rid of the XfX drivers and went with the Nvidia ones.  I did the driver cleaner a few times while in safe mode...It seemed to work for a few days, but today, I began seeing the flashing of yellow and the errors again <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />Tonight, we will be putting my card into my husbands PC to see if he gets the same issues...  and see if mine disappear...

[Elorah]

Grrrrr..  I still get noth errors and the yellow textures.  While playing my graphics card in Hubbie's PC, I didnt have any issue, but then again, I didnt play it for days.Any other suggestions?  We ran3Dmark on the computer and didnt see any issues with the card..   so we are now confused....

[Elorah]

Just a quick update to how things are going....  I have turned off my shadows and the Anti Aliasing to my card with this game and I still have the issue.  I have been in contact with the manufacturer of my card and they say that according to my error, it is not the card.  It is either the game or the DirectX according to them...Any other possibilities?  I thought that I read someplace that GU 44 had something updating with memory, I am wondering if it may help me, even though I only have 2 gigs...  <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=412209" rel="nofollow" target="_blank"> Test Update Notes: Friday, March 21st 2008</a><span class="postbody"><li><div>The client will automatically enable a low-memory mode when you are running low on memory.  The low-memory mode will downsample far away textures and unload geometry that hasn't been drawn in a while.  The low-memory mode should generally be invisible.</div></li><li><div>Performance settings were adjusted slightly for better rendering at lower qualities without significantly impacting performance.- Flora will now only be rendered on High Quality settings and above.- Objects will not disappear as quickly on lower settings</div></li><li><div>The client is Large Address Aware, meaning that you are much less likely to run out of memory if you have 3GB or more of RAM and are running either the 64-bit versions of Windows or have modified your boot.ini to support 3GB user address space.</div></li></span>

[Elorah]

Newest issue...  well sort of the same, but it is a bit different.  It seems that I am now also getting some tearing (for lack of a better word).  Around certain objects, I will see this.  I took some screenies in Zek.  Around a rock there, I would get flickering black angled areas missing in the game...<img src="http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s106/sariana57/EQ2_000062.jpg" alt="" border="0" /><img src="http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s106/sariana57/EQ2_000065.jpg" alt="" border="0" /> To this...<img src="http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s106/sariana57/EQ2_000067.jpg" alt="" border="0" /><img src="http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s106/sariana57/EQ2_000069.jpg" alt="" border="0" />Any new Ideas???  I am really at a loss on these issues...  lol