View Full Version : Sleight of Hand at Bargain Prices, Devs please read
Dreadpatch
03-19-2008, 11:48 AM
<p>First of all, there are barely any swashy masters available on broker, pretty much ever. Think currently on Nek server, we have bound, triple blades (200 plat although I already have it), Sack for about as much (which I have), En Garde, and of course numerous Sleight of Hand (5). The Sleight of Hand is currently on broker for 30 plat and continues to drop. Strangely enough no one is buying it, and there's a pretty good reason for that. It's useless, even if it worked as intended, it would still be useless (very situational). Can the Devs please please please do something to the spell to make it worth putting on my hotbar?</p><p> I'm not asking for much, I don't want a nuke or anything, just a spell that's worth using at level 80, LEVEL 80!!!! Be creative with the spell, I don't mind, but make it do something useful.</p>
<p>I think they should just make SoH a buff that adds like 75% gain on pick-pockets. Even at 80 they are only ~50s... so making it close to a gold wouldn't do much harm considering they only go off 50% of the time anyway.</p><p>Just my thoughts... makes it semi-more useful than the broken PoS that we have currently</p>
Faenril
03-19-2008, 12:30 PM
I like the concept of a hate managing tool. We don't need another "nuke". What about a temp buf to our hate transfer ? Like for 20 sec we xfer twice the normal amount ? Would be nice when we prepare for a burst session ? Or a hate tranfer that we can place on another member of the group, that transfers some hate to our current swarthy disorder target ? Or a debuff to all magical resistances ? We are quite bad at that currently compared to brigs for instance. It would make soemwhat sense since they improved the raid mobs resistance recently I think ?
Dreadpatch
03-19-2008, 12:41 PM
The temporary hate transfer is an interesting idea, and would also fall in line with what they already have to some degree. Wouldn't have to change name of spell etc. It's just that our epic already should improve hate transfer on proc. Like I said earlier, I'm not worried about having another damage dealing CA, just something I would actually use. It's pretty sad I don't even hotbar my level 80 CA.
Dreadpatch
03-19-2008, 12:42 PM
Oh one more thing.. Another nuke? We don't have any nukes : P Just a lot of quick damage CA's that debuff and stack up to solid damage...
Hakthaf
03-19-2008, 02:18 PM
<p>The hate transfer thing is a good idea.</p><p> A possible thing they could do that would keep it similiar to sleight of hands *intended function* is to when casted on a tank we transfer 10percent hate for 20seconds, when casted on non fighter we absorb 10percent hate for 20seconds, or even something similiar. It almost seems they intend to have swash act as back up tanks *when MT in a heroic setting dies and no other fighter around* this would give us some use then to keep it that way, as well as our own agro management.</p>
Trojenn
03-25-2008, 11:11 AM
<p>A + to CA damage percent buff would be nice... an increased agro transfer temp buff would be nice... an actual worth while ranged attack would work also... but nope SOE is set on the SoH pos soo guess its time to get over it lol... </p><p>http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee309/fractile/Signature.jpg</p>
Dreadpatch
03-25-2008, 12:36 PM
Down to 15 plat on my server, sadly still not buying it.
Bloodfa
03-25-2008, 12:58 PM
Got the Adept I. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /> Still haven't used it.
DngrMou
03-25-2008, 02:10 PM
<cite>Dreadpatch wrote:</cite><blockquote>Down to 15 plat on my server, sadly still not buying it.</blockquote><p>I don't think I'd consider it at more than 1 plat. And even then, I'd buy just to say I had it. It's just not something that I'm going to use. I'd really like to see SOE rethink this, as we already have some pretty decent aggro management abilities available to us as it is. I was hoping for something amazing, and I'm very dissapointed with what they gave us.</p><p>Group wide, short term, complete invisibility, no mobs can see. Say...30 seconds. I'd hotbar that.</p><p>30% increase to all effects of the next CA used. I'd hotbar that.</p><p>Decent ranged attack. I'd hotbar that.</p><p>A raid zone only buff that increased the chances of an ornate chest dropping off trash. I'd hotbar that.</p><p>Evac group to targetted raid member location. I'd hotbar that.</p><p>SoH. Nuh uh. Sigh.</p>
RingleToo
03-25-2008, 04:49 PM
<p>I've got just the App IV for SoH...and have never used it or needed to use it. </p><p>Even if I could find occasions to use it, I don't know that I like the idea of being a "back-up" tank. There's a reason why Swashies aren't made the MT/MA on raids or any other time. Because tank classes make much better tanks. Give those classes SoH. </p><p>Yes, Swashies can tank if they have to, though we're more of a "light" tank. Why in the world, though, would you want a Swashy to get aggro from a X4 epic mob when you can have, say, a Guardian in the role of MA grab aggro instead? Tanks are supposed to die after all, not us good looking Swashbucklers! <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>
Bloodfa
03-25-2008, 04:52 PM
<cite>RingleToo wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I've got just the App IV for SoH...and have never used it or needed to use it. </p><p>Even if I could find occasions to use it, I don't know that I like the idea of being a "back-up" tank. There's a reason why Swashies aren't made the MT/MA on raids or any other time. Because tank classes make much better tanks. Give those classes SoH. </p><p>Yes, Swashies can tank if they have to, though <b>we're more of a "light" tank</b>. Why in the world, though, would you want a Swashy to get aggro from a X4 epic mob when you can have, say, a Guardian in the role of MA grab aggro instead? Tanks are supposed to die after all, not us good looking Swashbucklers! <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote>Actually, I think we're more like a half-track, with a .50 cal. Jack-of-all-trades in WWII, but couldn't take heavy weapons fire for [Removed for Content]. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
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