Who is the Overfiend?

[Aluadienae]

<p>Not to long ago, I was in Fallen Gate and attacked the four dark halflings: <a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?eq2mob=1559" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Baelhyme</a>, <a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?eq2mob=8391" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bahzule</a>, <a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?eq2mob=8392" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Blythe</a> and <a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?eq2mob=1558" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Bouhla</a> when one of them said in Stout that they must obey the will of the Overfiend.  I was stunned - never heard of this Overfiend or seen them.  Any information on the Overfiend or who it could be?</p><p>Alu</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>Sounds to me like they're just another bunch of Halflings who were taken over by shadowmen.</p>

[Ama]

Well the overfiend is an epic mob inside rivervale if I remember correctly.  Course this ties into the "Shadowman" lore which is very clouded as to what exactly is going on.  So far there's only been hints/ideas and some theories, but as to how correct they are *shrug*.

[Gukkor2]

Incidentally, there was also the Thought Horror Overfiend on Luclin in EQ1, and the thought horrors <i>did</i> have a penchant for mind control.

[Apocroph]

<cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Incidentally, there was also the Thought Horror Overfiend on Luclin in EQ1, and the thought horrors <i>did</i> have a penchant for mind control.</blockquote>WHY do you keep bringing up such horrible memories?!  /stabThe Overfiend in question is, in fact, <a href="http://eq2.allakhazam.com/db/mob.html?eq2mob=2344" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">the one from Rivervale</a>.  Halflings being from Rivervale, it's not too much of a stretch to see who they're referring to.Personally, I've been having some trouble figuring out the pecking order within the ranks of the Shadowed Men.  Obviously, we don't know who the absolute top dog is, but it should be possible to figure out at least who the crew chiefs are, and what the general hierarchy is for the rest of their numbers.

[Psychotic One]

<p>Goos = labor/golems</p><p>Eyes = Watchdogs</p><p>Shadowed Men = Infiltry</p><p>Nightblood = Officers</p><p>At least thats always how I viewed their rankings</p>

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Ghene@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Goos = labor/golems</p><p>Eyes = Watchdogs</p><p>Shadowed Men = Infiltry</p><p>Nightblood = Officers</p><p>At least thats always how I viewed their rankings</p></blockquote>Goos?

[Gukkor2]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ghene@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Goos = labor/golems</p><p>Eyes = Watchdogs</p><p>Shadowed Men = Infiltry</p><p>Nightblood = Officers</p><p>At least thats always how I viewed their rankings</p></blockquote>Goos?</blockquote>Oozes, blobs, amorphous beings.

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ghene@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Goos = labor/golems</p><p>Eyes = Watchdogs</p><p>Shadowed Men = Infiltry</p><p>Nightblood = Officers</p><p>At least thats always how I viewed their rankings</p></blockquote>Goos?</blockquote>Oozes, blobs, amorphous beings.</blockquote>I don't remember seeing any of those types of creatures anywhere in the Void.

[Gukkor2]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Gukkor2 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ghene@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Goos = labor/golems</p><p>Eyes = Watchdogs</p><p>Shadowed Men = Infiltry</p><p>Nightblood = Officers</p><p>At least thats always how I viewed their rankings</p></blockquote>Goos?</blockquote>Oozes, blobs, amorphous beings.</blockquote>I don't remember seeing any of those types of creatures anywhere in the Void.</blockquote>I don't remember too many either, but I could've sworn I encountered an ooze or two in the Obelisk of Lost Souls.

[Rainmare]

I always pictures it as Eyes = scouts/sentriesNightblood = Shocktroops/InfantryShadowedmen = Officers/special forcesyou simply don't send infantry to take over powerful people like those we found on the list in OoB/OoLS. the Nightbloods in Rivervale seem to be more like slave masters or guards to me to make sure the Halflings are converted/corrupted or kept contained.and that's the other thing, there's been no sign at all that the Nightbloods aren't anything more then enslaved/hired muscle. and the nightbloods in OoB don't seem to be doing really anything more then torturing fae/arasai to a point where the Shadowedmen can possess them...the whole method they seem to work with is possess/corrupt/convert an area, and then bring in the Nightbloods/Eyes to defend it and reinforce it until they can further spread thier influence.

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>I always pictures it as Eyes = scouts/sentriesNightblood = Shocktroops/InfantryShadowedmen = Officers/special forcesyou simply don't send infantry to take over powerful people like those we found on the list in OoB/OoLS. the Nightbloods in Rivervale seem to be more like slave masters or guards to me to make sure the Halflings are converted/corrupted or kept contained.and that's the other thing, there's been no sign at all that the Nightbloods aren't anything more then enslaved/hired muscle. and the nightbloods in OoB don't seem to be doing really anything more then torturing fae/arasai to a point where the Shadowedmen can possess them...the whole method they seem to work with is possess/corrupt/convert an area, and then bring in the Nightbloods/Eyes to defend it and reinforce it until they can further spread thier influence.</blockquote><p>I would have to agree with the Nightblood part. They're the ones who wander the hallways in the Obelisk of Lost Shadows, and it is a shadowman who summons two of them to fight you off when you're trying to make your way to the lower levels of the obelisk.</p><p>But where would we place the Void Creatures? They seem to be on the low end of the totem pole, being nothing more than summoned servants and such.</p>

[DMIstar]

THO keeps popping up in my mind when seeing the word overfiend.. There was a shade faction found in the the Deep, that was quite out of place compared to the rest of the zone. <a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=7327" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...h.shtml?id=7327</a>

[Ama]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>I always pictures it as Eyes = scouts/sentriesNightblood = Shocktroops/InfantryShadowedmen = Officers/special forcesyou simply don't send infantry to take over powerful people like those we found on the list in OoB/OoLS. the Nightbloods in Rivervale seem to be more like slave masters or guards to me to make sure the Halflings are converted/corrupted or kept contained.and that's the other thing, there's been no sign at all that the Nightbloods aren't anything more then enslaved/hired muscle. and the nightbloods in OoB don't seem to be doing really anything more then torturing fae/arasai to a point where the Shadowedmen can possess them...the whole method they seem to work with is possess/corrupt/convert an area, and then bring in the Nightbloods/Eyes to defend it and reinforce it until they can further spread thier influence.</blockquote><p>I would have to agree with the Nightblood part. They're the ones who wander the hallways in the Obelisk of Lost Shadows, and it is a shadowman who summons two of them to fight you off when you're trying to make your way to the lower levels of the obelisk.</p><p>But where would we place the Void Creatures? They seem to be on the low end of the totem pole, being nothing more than summoned servants and such.</p></blockquote><p>Have to agree with that assumption about the tiers, but your forgetting the Lamias and those void critters we see scurrying about. </p><p>Void Critters/Tentacles=dogs/1st wave *Wouldn't be surprised if the Shadowed men stole the druziac language/understanding from the evil eyes*. </p><p>Evil Eyes=Researchers, sentries/alarm units *From the post vhalen put up it appears evil eyes are very adept at researching information.  If this is the case you don't want to put a gun in a scientist's hand and have them fight except as a last resort*</p><p>Nightbloods=Deffinately shocktroops/infantry *These guys have the muscle and power plus their size.*</p><p>Lamia=Seducers/Assassins *These things appear harmless and beautiful then when you near them/attack them they turn into monsters.  What better way to kill your enemy then with a devious and seductive assassin*</p><p>Shadow Men=Commanding Officers, Generals and Task Force *These guys seem to be jacks of all trades, but there also appears to be 2 types.  There's the vortex type we see then there is the invisible kind in the Obelisk of Blight.*</p><p>Commander=? *There's been mention of a supreme high commander, however we haven't actually "seen" him/her/it.  We only catch a brief mention of the overseer from the text in the obelisk of blight*</p><p>Another thing to consider are the infiltraitors we see occupying the bodies of the fae in the Obelisk of Blight.  These things probably rank between the lamia and the shadowedmen.  </p>

[Coniaric]

<cite>Amana wrote:</cite> <blockquote><p>Another thing to consider are the infiltraitors we see occupying the bodies of the fae in the Obelisk of Blight.  These things probably rank between the lamia and the shadowedmen.  </p></blockquote><p>Personally ... I don't think those are really of a value. They're probably expecting to use the possessed fae to get closer to Woushi and get the dragon under their power. They wanted those that are actually important or close to the one that are of an importance ... like Fiddy, Woushi, Kyle Bayle, etc. Now ... those might have a higher rank.</p><p>Just my supposition.</p>

[DocFlareon]

A question I have is about the gods and how they relate to the creatures of the Void.Cazic Thule seems to have both Eyes and Void Beasts working for Him.  Has the Faceless cut a deal of some sort with the Void?

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Ekaunek@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>A question I have is about the gods and how they relate to the creatures of the Void.Cazic Thule seems to have both Eyes and Void Beasts working for Him.  Has the Faceless cut a deal of some sort with the Void?</blockquote><p>where are there Void Beasts working for CT?</p><p>The Evil Eyes arn't related. They exist in countless planar realms, void or otherwise.</p>

[DocFlareon]

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ekaunek@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>A question I have is about the gods and how they relate to the creatures of the Void.Cazic Thule seems to have both Eyes and Void Beasts working for Him.  Has the Faceless cut a deal of some sort with the Void?</blockquote><p>where are there Void Beasts working for CT?</p><p>The Evil Eyes arn't related. They exist in countless planar realms, void or otherwise.</p></blockquote>Go into the cave that holds the portal to the Shard of Fear, and you will see Void Beasts.  Also, the Thulian Arch-Guardian, who is a Void Beast, conducts the trial in Strife, the final deity quest for Cazic.