Want to sit down.

[The_Green_Dragon]

<b><span style="font-size: x-small;">I see so many chairs and benches teasing me as my legs are getting tired from running from mobs. I do not feel comfortable sitting like a girl. So could you please implement the beaches and chairs allowing me to sit down, just for awhile. Or make the male characters a more masculine animated sitting style, please....</span></b>

[Wingrider01]

<p>Been discussed ad nauseum, I believe there is a dev response in this threaqd as to why it won't happen, oir at least in oine of the other of the myriad of posts on this</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=409710" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=409710</a></p>

[Mirdo]

I'm thinking of starting a thread entitled 'Fix arrows for flying Beastlords that can't sit down or hit anything with broken melee hit rates and high caster resist rates'. That way I'll cover all the commonly flogged horse corpses. It does, however, lack punch. 

[WeatherMan]

<cite>Mirdo@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm thinking of starting a thread entitled 'Fix arrows for flying Beastlords that can't sit down or hit anything with broken melee hit rates and high caster resist rates'. That way I'll cover all the commonly flogged horse corpses. It does, however, lack punch. </blockquote>"Fix arrows for flying  plat-farming Beastlords clothed in identical re-textured fashions that can't sit down or hit anything with broken melee rates or high caster resist rates or go back to Luclin because they're all busy complaining about the high broker prices and threatening to cancel their subscriptions because the PvP mechanics are broken and their class has been nerfed before it's even been introduced in the latest patch that still hasn't fixed the LoN spam or inserted an automatic warning for server downtime because it interferes with their raiding and solo play that hasn't improved because there are no new races and not enough character slots because the devs never pay attention or respond because everyone keeps comparing it to WoW."Or something like that.

[Mirdo]

<cite>WeatherMan wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Mirdo@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm thinking of starting a thread entitled 'Fix arrows for flying Beastlords that can't sit down or hit anything with broken melee hit rates and high caster resist rates'. That way I'll cover all the commonly flogged horse corpses. It does, however, lack punch. </blockquote>"Fix arrows for flying  plat-farming Beastlords clothed in identical re-textured fashions that can't sit down or hit anything with broken melee rates or high caster resist rates or go back to Luclin because they're all busy complaining about the high broker prices and threatening to cancel their subscriptions because the PvP mechanics are broken and their class has been nerfed before it's even been introduced in the latest patch that still hasn't fixed the LoN spam or inserted an automatic warning for server downtime because it interferes with their raiding and solo play that hasn't improved because there are no new races and not enough character slots because the devs never pay attention or respond because everyone keeps comparing it to WoW."Or something like that.</blockquote><p>Edgy, topical and hard hitting. I like it! </p><p>Let's make that thread!</p>

[Nematod]

<cite>Mirdo@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>WeatherMan wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Mirdo@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm thinking of starting a thread entitled 'Fix arrows for flying Beastlords that can't sit down or hit anything with broken melee hit rates and high caster resist rates'. That way I'll cover all the commonly flogged horse corpses. It does, however, lack punch. </blockquote>"Fix arrows for flying  plat-farming Beastlords clothed in identical re-textured fashions that can't sit down or hit anything with broken melee rates or high caster resist rates or go back to Luclin because they're all busy complaining about the high broker prices and threatening to cancel their subscriptions because the PvP mechanics are broken and their class has been nerfed before it's even been introduced in the latest patch that still hasn't fixed the LoN spam or inserted an automatic warning for server downtime because it interferes with their raiding and solo play that hasn't improved because there are no new races and not enough character slots because the devs never pay attention or respond because everyone keeps comparing it to WoW."Or something like that.</blockquote><p>Edgy, topical and hard hitting. I like it! </p><p><b>Let's make that thread!</b></p></blockquote>Why bother when this one's been so thoughly hijacked.

[Mirdo]

Good point.  And if I did want to discuss or learn about seating within the game, I would use the thread linked in the second post that contains numerous viewpoints and even Developer commentary outlining why it is difficult to achieve. No need to waste this one rehashing all that eh?

[erin]

<cite>Mirdo@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>Good point.  And if I did want to discuss or learn about seating within the game, I would use the thread linked in the second post that contains numerous viewpoints and even Developer commentary outlining why it is difficult to achieve. No need to waste this one rehashing all that eh?</blockquote>Agreed!Not only should we start the new topic, but we should keep a running total of how many times each dead horse gets posted.  That way we can see which dead horse is winning!Sitting... wow... its been less than a week since that came up.  Has it even scrolled off the front page?

[Aurumn]

<p>Don't forgert the shark fin soup and Vah Shir.</p><p>*ducks*</p>

[Greyta]

<cite>erin wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Mirdo@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>Good point.  And if I did want to discuss or learn about seating within the game, I would use the thread linked in the second post that contains numerous viewpoints and even Developer commentary outlining why it is difficult to achieve. No need to waste this one rehashing all that eh?</blockquote>Agreed!Not only should we start the new topic, but we should keep a running total of how many times each dead horse gets posted.  That way we can see which dead horse is winning!Sitting... wow... its been less than a week since that came up.  Has it even scrolled off the front page?</blockquote>It's amazing to me that you don't understand why this topic won't keep coming up by new people.

[Cusashorn]

dead horse, etc.

[interstellarmatter]

<p>If they had done it correctly, there would of been one skeleton system scaled to the different races.  The artwork would be simplified in scaling each person sitting in a chair or bench.  In other words, one set of artwork would need to be done.</p><p>As it is now, every race has it own skeleton system.  So, you'd have to draw the artwork for each race sitting in each different type of bench, chair, etc.  The chair itself would have to be redrawn to fit each race's skeleton.  We're talking about a huge art effort.  Almost an expansion amount of work.  (At least, this is how I understand the issue)</p><p>If they ever get the skeleton revamp system done, hopefull, we'll see more stuff like emotes, sitting, armor types, etc.</p>

[gi]

If its such a dead horse topic why does it come up so often? Its not that it can't be done, just that it would use a lot of resources to make proper interactable furniture like chairs, and the Devs believe there time is best spent elsewhere. Heck it took 2 years to get cloaks, and that was a dead horse topic too before they arrived!I think considering the amount of times this topic is brought up perhaps the Devs should rethink the priority on this.Do we really want guild halls we cannot sit down in???

[Roux]

<cite>Rlaal@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Do we really want guild halls we cannot sit down in???</blockquote>Guild Halls? What are these " Guild Halls " you speak of? I seem to vaguely remember something said about these " Guild Halls " 3 years or so ago at game launch. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Transen]

Forget sitting, most of my toons haven't slept since they were born.  They just stare day after day at their beds, silently weeping as they so dearly wish they could lay down and sleep.  They tried the hair of the dog drink which was said to cure their insomnia but, it only works for 5 minutes which is pure torture for them (not to mention horrible nightmares of humans with no nostrils during those 5 minutes of tease-sleep).One day I found my poor ratonga face-down at the bottom of a cliff with a note:  "And the sleeps finally come at lasts".   RIP Harvee, my poor poor friend. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Cusashorn]

<cite>Rlaal@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>If its such a dead horse topic why does it come up so often? Its not that it can't be done, just that it would use a lot of resources to make proper interactable furniture like chairs, and the Devs believe there time is best spent elsewhere. Heck it took 2 years to get cloaks, and that was a dead horse topic too before they arrived!I think considering the amount of times this topic is brought up perhaps the Devs should rethink the priority on this.Do we really want guild halls we cannot sit down in???</blockquote>You'd think they'd add in the Beastlord class based on that logic too.........

[Aurumn]

<cite>Rlaal@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><b>If its such a dead horse topic why does it come up so often?</b> Its not that it can't be done, just that it would use a lot of resources to make proper interactable furniture like chairs, and the Devs believe there time is best spent elsewhere. Heck it took 2 years to get cloaks, and that was a dead horse topic too before they arrived!I think considering the amount of times this topic is brought up perhaps the Devs should rethink the priority on this.Do we really want guild halls we cannot sit down in???</blockquote><p>The simple answer? New players try out the game, see all the spiffy house items and get confused when they can't sit on them. They post a "why can't we..." thread either without searching for the existing threads or they think the ones they do find are so outdated that they think "surely they've fixed it by now" and post anyway. Then players new and old jump on the bandwagon and add their voice to 'why can't we..." chant. </p><p>Short of posting a Sticky topic list of "why can't we..." items and their dev responses on all boards these poor dead horses will continue to get dragged out into the sunlight. Heck, even that wouldn't stop the folks who want to crusade for their cause or simply don't read the sticky either. And of course there is the chuckle factor of dragging one out just to see who squeaks... sort of like throwing out tired old movie quotes just to hear the groans. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>*bring out yer dead!!*</p>

[ke'la]

<cite>Tsubaki@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rlaal@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>Do we really want guild halls we cannot sit down in???</blockquote>Guild Halls? What are these " Guild Halls " you speak of? I seem to vaguely remember something said about these " Guild Halls " 3 years or so ago at game launch. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>Accually at launch they said they would have Guild Housing, wich is housing you have to be a Patron of a guild to buy(this as sence changed when they removed the Patron system). What they are working on and what is comming soon(tm) is <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=375433" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Guild Halls.</a>

[ke'la]

<cite>Mezzmyrelda@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rlaal@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><b>If its such a dead horse topic why does it come up so often?</b> Its not that it can't be done, just that it would use a lot of resources to make proper interactable furniture like chairs, and the Devs believe there time is best spent elsewhere. Heck it took 2 years to get cloaks, and that was a dead horse topic too before they arrived!I think considering the amount of times this topic is brought up perhaps the Devs should rethink the priority on this.Do we really want guild halls we cannot sit down in???</blockquote><p>The simple answer? New players try out the game, see all the spiffy house items and get confused when they can't sit on them. They post a "why can't we..." thread either without searching for the existing threads or they think the ones they do find are so outdated that they think "surely they've fixed it by now" and post anyway. Then players new and old jump on the bandwagon and add their voice to 'why can't we..." chant. </p><p>Short of posting a Sticky topic list of "why can't we..." items and their dev responses on all boards these poor dead horses will continue to get dragged out into the sunlight. Heck, even that wouldn't stop the folks who want to crusade for their cause or simply don't read the sticky either. And of course there is the chuckle factor of dragging one out just to see who squeaks... sort of like throwing out tired old movie quotes just to hear the groans. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>*bring out yer dead!!*</p></blockquote>"I'm not dead yet"

[Moltove]

<cite>ke'la wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Mezzmyrelda@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rlaal@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><p>*bring out yer dead!!*</p></blockquote>"I'm not dead yet"</blockquote>*groan*Help help, I'm being oppressed!!

[gi]

<cite>Mezzmyrelda@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rlaal@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><b>If its such a dead horse topic why does it come up so often?</b> Its not that it can't be done, just that it would use a lot of resources to make proper interactable furniture like chairs, and the Devs believe there time is best spent elsewhere. Heck it took 2 years to get cloaks, and that was a dead horse topic too before they arrived!I think considering the amount of times this topic is brought up perhaps the Devs should rethink the priority on this.Do we really want guild halls we cannot sit down in???</blockquote><p>The simple answer? New players try out the game, see all the spiffy house items and get confused when they can't sit on them. They post a "why can't we..." thread either without searching for the existing threads or they think the ones they do find are so outdated that they think "surely they've fixed it by now" and post anyway. Then players new and old jump on the bandwagon and add their voice to 'why can't we..." chant. </p><p>Short of posting a Sticky topic list of "why can't we..." items and their dev responses on all boards these poor dead horses will continue to get dragged out into the sunlight. Heck, even that wouldn't stop the folks who want to crusade for their cause or simply don't read the sticky either. And of course there is the chuckle factor of dragging one out just to see who squeaks... sort of like throwing out tired old movie quotes just to hear the groans. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>*bring out yer dead!!*</p></blockquote><p>Yes your right in that this is going to be the case sometimes. What I would say and did in my original message was that Cloaks were a 'dead horse' topic and people kept bringing that up.</p><p>I realise the priority of this MMO<b>RPG</b>  is not Roleplaying, rather raids/group/solo content, but I think its time the Roleplayers who generally make the best with the limited tools they have get some nice new features. In my view roleplayers play the game even after the quests & dungeons are finished. </p><p>I personally don't want to see guild halls without Being able to sit down. But I will have to put up with it I am sure.<img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[xScooby]

I'm tired...*Sits down*I would like to sit on benches >.>

[Aurumn]

<p>I'd love it if the environment were more interactive. Just look at how fun Oblivion is to see why. You can sit on chairs. Heck you can even bump into things... that gets annoying after a while, but it's pretty funny the first time you run into a shop a little too quick and knock a plate halfway across the room because you "bumped" the counter. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> There seem to be a lot of things in game that folks have wanted changed for a long time, but many of them have the general response that the work needed to implement said change is either not an option or not proportional to the benefit. You never know, maybe all the dead horses will get rezzed for EQ3 someday.</p>

[LordFyre]

<p>We would like to give this topic a rest.  But we can't.</p><p>Let's sit down and think about this . . . oh sorry.</p><p>We can't take this lying down!  No, really we can't! </p>

[Gnobrin]

<p>This thread is hereby awarded the "fastest derailed thread evah" thophy.  Yes this issue is a flogged mule, and the follow-up reply gave that information through the link they offered.</p><p><i>I say in the next expansion, we introduce undead horses!  Then, those grisly steeds can be beaten ingame to the delight of those that relish keeping threads like this alive.</i></p><p>~Gnobrin</p>