Exileds progress while factions are at halt! Nagafen [Archive]

Statewrestler101

03-08-2008, 11:21 PM

What is this?... On Nagafen they have taken out the writ givers making it IMPOSSIBLE to get any tokens/pvp gear.... Meanwhile yesterday i have seen more than 5 exileds get there MYTHICAL weapons... I suggest if you are gonna do something as idiotic as halt our progression in getting some of the best gear we can get you should halt the exiles in getting gear while we are left to sit and watch... Everyone knows that factions will probably never raid zones like VP and be successful, at least for a very long time.... So I suggest 2 fixes to this problem... Either you make the writ giver in a solo instance zone inside the factions cities... or you keep the writs the way they are and have tokens drop the old fashion way... I highly Suggest that you fix this problem soon or a WHOLE BUNCH of [Removed for Content] off people in the factions are gonna get together and crash the zones all day long until you fix the problem... The Q's and FP's are not gonna tolerate this and/or let the exileds sit back and laugh at us while they get their way... SOE!!!!!!!!!!! Get your thumb out of your AAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS

03-09-2008, 12:19 AM

wait do you mean there are no more writs at all? or are you talking about those lame pvp writs?

Statewrestler101

03-09-2008, 12:25 AM

I am saying that we can no longer get pvp gear until SOE gets off there lame [Removed for Content]... but meanwhile exileds can get there awesome gear...

Nerocon

03-09-2008, 12:29 AM

Yes he is talking about the so called lame pvp writs, not the guild or tradeskill.. Lame or not its THE way to get pvp gear. Unless you plan to slaughter 10k opposing faction members for measly hits.

Sorffats

03-09-2008, 12:35 AM

Here is the word on the street. I'm not sure how true this is, it is mearly hearsay, so don't go saying that "Eragahn" is forming a revolt vs SOE. Anyway, the word is that if tokens aren't put back in the game REALLY SOON (like in the next day or so), then Qeynos and FP are going back to KP and do more massive brawls just to make the servers crash so that NOBODY can get any gear (from raiding or whatever). I would assume that this will be on a daily basis until writs, tokens, or whatever new plan SOE may come up with is put back into the game.

03-09-2008, 12:58 AM

sinista

03-09-2008, 01:01 AM

all that stuff soe is doing to the faction pvp on nagafen is really starting to get me give up. I mean today I heard from someone that theres a dev playing in an exile guild on nagafen whos listening to all the exile crap talk about pvp gear, so he decided to change that and remove writ giver in order to have exile finish their raid stuff and get mythical...is that really true? are you guys [Removed for Content] kidding me? this is so gonna end up like SWG, once again they dont listen to the community and the game will slowly die...where the solution could be so simple; RESTORE THE [Removed for Content] BODY DROP AND TAKE AWAY THE [Removed for Content] WRIT SYSTEM

Arieneth

03-09-2008, 01:05 AM

this thread makes me LOL!!! hahahahahahaha. blame your own stupid selves for what happened. and i would love to see the factions return to KP and crash the server again. then when SOE starts banning people for intentionally ruining gameplay for other people...you will hear even more laughing.god i love empty threats from noobs...[Removed for Content].

03-09-2008, 01:12 AM

<cite>sinistarz wrote:</cite><blockquote>all that stuff soe is doing to the faction pvp on nagafen is really starting to get me give up. I mean today I heard from someone that theres a dev playing in an exile guild on nagafen whos listening to all the exile crap talk about pvp gear, so he decided to change that and remove writ giver in order to have exile finish their raid stuff and get mythical...is that really true? are you guys [I cannot control my vocabulary] kidding me? this is so gonna end up like SWG, once again they dont listen to the community and the game will slowly die...where the solution could be so simple; RESTORE THE [I cannot control my vocabulary] BODY DROP AND TAKE AWAY THE [I cannot control my vocabulary] WRIT SYSTEM</blockquote>I am assuming that you are talking about my guild here since we are the ones that have gotten all the mythicals last few days. I assure you we have no dev in guild. I have spoken to a gm 3 times in the history of the game. One was to get a chest out of a wall. One was about covering up the carpets in sinking sands, and one was somone getting mad at me or my guild and petitioning me for something stupid.We have worked [Removed for Content] hard and put in alot of hours to accomplish this goal. As far as factions and all that go I am all for all classes on both sides but I assure you giving you all the classes will not get you your mythicals. If you werent talking about my guild then I dont know maybe, but it apparently didnt work.

sinista

03-09-2008, 01:13 AM

I wonder if you will still laugh when theres nobody left on server whom you can show and show off with your uber raid gear, sitting all alone with your exile friends in a cave and wondering where all the "good" pvp has gone...gg on nagafen = bluebie 2.0

03-09-2008, 01:16 AM

Its still the highest load server. Try again.

valkyriepc

03-09-2008, 01:16 AM

<cite>Eragahn@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Here is the word on the street. I'm not sure how true this is, it is mearly hearsay, so don't go saying that "Eragahn" is forming a revolt vs SOE. Anyway, the word is that if tokens aren't put back in the game REALLY SOON (like in the next day or so), then Qeynos and FP are going back to KP and do more massive brawls just to make the servers crash so that NOBODY can get any gear (from raiding or whatever). I would assume that this will be on a daily basis until writs, tokens, or whatever new plan SOE may come up with is put back into the game.</blockquote>Sure, till you really [Removed for Content] SoE off, and instead of removing writ givers, they temp ban everyone who partook in the crashings. And if you do it again after the temp ban they perm ban everyone. One thing ive learned. Revolt smartly, because gaming companies have little to no tolerance for disruption, and if you want to see a company react quickly to something, this will be what you'll wanna do. Except it won't be quickly to fix writ givers or token drops. It'll be quickly to completely bring down the server for a 2 day patch and temp ban anyone who partook in the whole slaughtering.

valkyriepc

03-09-2008, 01:20 AM

<cite>sinistarz wrote:</cite><blockquote>I wonder if you will still laugh when theres nobody left on server whom you can show and show off with your uber raid gear, sitting all alone with your exile friends in a cave and wondering where all the "good" pvp has gone...gg on nagafen = bluebie 2.0</blockquote>lol exileds can kill exileds? which is exactly what will happen if FP / Q decide to revolt and quit. And every faction based player will just go exile to join in the fun.<div></div><div>You know what the funny thing is. You call exileds bluebies, and yet 90% of the exileds have 10% or greater total kills and have done more pvp than 90% of any of city factioned players. To me its the city factions that are the bluebies sitting inside there city walls crying that exileds are too powerful and want SoE to give you [Removed for Content] for free. Get out there and pvp, its why your on the server. You want a reward, try satisfaction for a reward.</div>

sinista

03-09-2008, 01:21 AM

@euar well thats what i heard from a well know guy and who is pretty trustful (hes in exile), Im not saying he changed mechanics to your favor or such, just pointing out that those changes that happened in the last few weeks speak a pretty obvious language. now how much of that is true or false I cant say for sure, but how things are being handled right now by soe, you gotta admit that its not really pushing the overall pvp enviroment. the raid vs raid pvp stuff on kp docks only happened because folks got [Removed for Content] of by the writ system and got together to boycot (and of course xploit) that crap. now you guys are exile and please tell me one single disadvantage that occured to you in regard with the most recent LUs...

sinista

03-09-2008, 01:29 AM

<cite>valkyriepc wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>sinistarz wrote:</cite><blockquote>I wonder if you will still laugh when theres nobody left on server whom you can show and show off with your uber raid gear, sitting all alone with your exile friends in a cave and wondering where all the "good" pvp has gone...gg on nagafen = bluebie 2.0</blockquote>lol exileds can kill exileds? which is exactly what will happen if FP / Q decide to revolt and quit. And every faction based player will just go exile to join in the fun. <div></div><div>You know what the funny thing is. You call exileds bluebies, and yet 90% of the exileds have 10% or greater total kills and have done more pvp than 90% of any of city factioned players. To me its the city factions that are the bluebies sitting inside there city walls crying that exileds are too powerful and want SoE to give you [I cannot control my vocabulary] for free. Get out there and pvp, its why your on the server. You want a reward, try satisfaction for a reward.</div></blockquote>yaya talk as much as you want, well see what happens when there isnt any more skill involved for you guys to get/keep high titles as a self-affirmation. after a while fighting each other in that cave you realize that you wasting money and time for nothing, where theres warhammer (in the near future) with a much better rewarding/entertaining system.but I cant blame you for sticking with eq2 tho, I heard there is still ppl in eq1 playing and having fun at it..so.

JakeRaven

03-09-2008, 01:37 AM

sinista

03-09-2008, 01:42 AM

I meant the overall game balance, gratz on failing using your brain

JakeRaven

03-09-2008, 01:46 AM

<cite>sinistarz wrote:</cite><blockquote>I meant the overall game balance, gratz on failing using your brain</blockquote>But SWG wasn't anywhere near balanced until the CU, and the game sucked at that point. Pre-CU unbalanced pvp was amazing and often funny. Ever see someone stack 700 str action fire and poison ae then just elevator hop?

sinista

03-09-2008, 02:02 AM

thats the thing, with every update/patch soe seems to fail more and more, instead of doing things "right" its going to noman's land. I really would like to know what you exiled guys can contribute to make this game be more enjoyable. I mean srly, are you guys really that happy with the current situation where you have the VP gear (and mythicals)? wasnt it much more fun in eof? or even kos? I am just trying to figure out when then best status-quo situation was in eq2 pvp history, so devs MAYBE can relay to that and think over their recently made, obscur LU changes...

JakeRaven

03-09-2008, 02:07 AM

KOS, before diminishing returns, perma-immunity, god abilities, cure changes, and various other changes. But its too late now, deal with it and roll in x3s or 4s to pvp against exiles imo.

sinista

03-09-2008, 02:11 AM

see youre absolutely right, its too late now, im not gonna deal with it and move on to another game <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Magic8Ba

03-09-2008, 02:15 AM

<cite>we would... if the server wouldn't crash. this just proves again that perhaps eq2 isn't really meant to be played pvp...- BlinkEtherian@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>KOS, before diminishing returns, perma-immunity, god abilities, cure changes, and various other changes. But its too late now, deal with it and roll in x3s or 4s to pvp against exiles imo.</blockquote>

valkyriepc

03-09-2008, 02:26 AM

<cite>sinistarz wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>valkyriepc wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>sinistarz wrote:</cite><blockquote>I wonder if you will still laugh when theres nobody left on server whom you can show and show off with your uber raid gear, sitting all alone with your exile friends in a cave and wondering where all the "good" pvp has gone...gg on nagafen = bluebie 2.0</blockquote>lol exileds can kill exileds? which is exactly what will happen if FP / Q decide to revolt and quit. And every faction based player will just go exile to join in the fun. <div></div><div>You know what the funny thing is. You call exileds bluebies, and yet 90% of the exileds have 10% or greater total kills and have done more pvp than 90% of any of city factioned players. To me its the city factions that are the bluebies sitting inside there city walls crying that exileds are too powerful and want SoE to give you [I cannot control my vocabulary] for free. Get out there and pvp, its why your on the server. You want a reward, try satisfaction for a reward.</div></blockquote>yaya talk as much as you want, well see what happens when there isnt any more skill involved for you guys to get/keep high titles as a self-affirmation. after a while fighting each other in that cave you realize that you wasting money and time for nothing, where theres warhammer (in the near future) with a much better rewarding/entertaining system.but I cant blame you for sticking with eq2 tho, I heard there is still ppl in eq1 playing and having fun at it..so.</blockquote>hmm warhammer. All i can say. NDA you know.

Amphibia

03-09-2008, 03:15 AM

<cite>Nm, not worth it. </cite><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.eq2flames.com/" target="_blank"></a>

Statewrestler101

03-09-2008, 03:31 AM

I understand that it was the factions fault for making the server crash but its the devs fault for not forseeing this problem and not communicating AT ALL about the issue to the public... for all we know they arent doing a [Removed for Content] thing... not just that in the past 2 days 30 exileds have gotten there mythical weps... is it just me or should it be slightly harder to get a weapon that makes even a guardian one of the most godly classes... i mean they can now use buckler reversal with a TOWER SHIELD! how is that fair? lol

Grol

03-09-2008, 03:36 AM

Am I missing something? Why not go get your epic as well?

Statewrestler101

03-09-2008, 03:40 AM

because the only guild getting there epics are not recruiting brigands and onyx is gaurding the VP zone non stop making sure no other guilds can get in!... not just that i want to get my pvp gear which i cant do cause writs are broken... Once i get all my pvp gear i wont mind mythicals cause i will have something to compete but until soe gets off there [Removed for Content] and does something about the writs im stuck with [Removed for Content] gear while exileds are getting top of the line T8 gear.... FACTIONS CAN NOT RAID VP SUCCESFULLY! HENCE NO ONE HAS MYTHICALS ON FACTION SIDE! all i want is my pvp gear so FIX THE WRITS SOE!

Amatheon

03-09-2008, 04:41 AM

THramir your on a PVE server right? We are faction based guilds here that are complaining. We only have the evil or good set of classes. I imagine your guild has all classes in it that it raids with. Its extremely hard actually hasn't been done so far that a faction based guild can get to vp not even mentioning the Mythical's.

Muraazi

03-09-2008, 05:30 AM

People can laugh and spew all the crap they want, however, the fact of the OP still remains. Factions are at a halt while exileds can still progress. Sure, we are not completely halted, as in we can raid. But, pvp gear is a no go until this crap is fixed... You can say that it's the factions fault for it. More spew... Because, yeah, it was some master plan that both factions, multiple guilds, solo players put together in order to farm tokens... Right. It was a fluke, and I can understand why they shut off the writ givers. However, that is no excuse for the lack of communication.

Owa

03-09-2008, 06:33 AM

<cite>Etherian@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>KOS, before diminishing returns, perma-immunity, god abilities, cure changes, and various other changes. </blockquote>Yes. That was when PvP was best. Actually, everything before EoF was best imo. Except in-combat evac.

Norrsken

03-09-2008, 08:27 AM

<cite>Owain wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Etherian@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>KOS, before diminishing returns, perma-immunity, god abilities, cure changes, and various other changes. </blockquote>Yes. That was when PvP was best. Actually, everything before EoF was best imo. Except in-combat evac.</blockquote>And kindof the rotten resist mechanic... <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> But that one still kindof stands.

yellowbelly08

03-09-2008, 09:39 AM

To the dude that said exiles have massive kill totals above almost all faction based players..theres a reason for this...YOU CAN KILL EACH OTHER IN MASSIVE HAVEN BRAWLS, DUELS, PRACTICE ETC..AND YOU DO..THIS SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES YOUR KILL COUNTS WITHOUT THE WORRIES OF FAME. There are some in factions that have pvped almost daily for an awful long time, eg myself, Rotate, Acolas, Dramasetter etc. These are the guys with the 100% genuine kill counts and seem to enjoy the challenge rather than going for quick fix easy modes.On another point rumours are coming in on the likes of a 13k pvp execute on chain using the mythical buff plus 6k auto attacks (2k triple attacks) ajnd 10+k mythical fissions etc. What happened to soe ftrying to do away with 1 shots on pvp servers.../shrug.Galoro

firedawg9

03-09-2008, 11:22 AM

<cite>sinistarz wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>valkyriepc wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>sinistarz wrote:</cite><blockquote>I wonder if you will still laugh when theres nobody left on server whom you can show and show off with your uber raid gear, sitting all alone with your exile friends in a cave and wondering where all the "good" pvp has gone...gg on nagafen = bluebie 2.0</blockquote>lol exileds can kill exileds? which is exactly what will happen if FP / Q decide to revolt and quit. And every faction based player will just go exile to join in the fun. <div></div><div>You know what the funny thing is. You call exileds bluebies, and yet 90% of the exileds have 10% or greater total kills and have done more pvp than 90% of any of city factioned players. To me its the city factions that are the bluebies sitting inside there city walls crying that exileds are too powerful and want SoE to give you [I cannot control my vocabulary] for free. Get out there and pvp, its why your on the server. You want a reward, try satisfaction for a reward.</div></blockquote>yaya talk as much as you want, well see what happens when there isnt any more skill involved for you guys to get/keep high titles as a self-affirmation. after a while fighting each other in that cave you realize that you wasting money and time for nothing, where theres warhammer (in the near future) with a much better rewarding/entertaining system.but I cant blame you for sticking with eq2 tho, I heard there is still ppl in eq1 playing and having fun at it..so.For starters most exiles dont give a crap about titles. Most exiles say titles ruin the game actually. As far as Warhammer what makes you think that exiles arent waiting for that game either? </blockquote>

firedawg9

03-09-2008, 11:28 AM

You guys keep saying VP loot is great but it isnt. The pvp gear I have seen is on par if not better than VP loot just like EoF. You guys are just [Removed for Content] that you cant get a full set of pvp gear in five days like EoF. God forbid if you gotta work to get something. I do agree they need to get rid of the writs and go back to tokens. Mythicals are great but you know what they should be. You work your rear off to get them and should be rewarded. I cant believe the way this game works. Its ridiculous that whoever puts the most work into improving there character gets rewarded. /sarcasm off

Allena

03-09-2008, 02:05 PM

Exile faction is OP, outgears FP and Q side. Its the bottom line. Exile got OP by raiding 6-7 times a week, with all classes at their disposition. Its fair enough that you get rewarded for putting in the time, its not fair that one faction gets a huge advantage in raiding by getting all classes. Can be fixed in one of two ways, disband haven or make all classes available for both cities. I prefer the latter tbh. Meanwhile Ill take a break from EQ2 and watch if anything happens once in while - IMO f warhammer - AoC looks sweet! Oh to the nub that thinks pvp gear is on par if not better than VP gear - you must be underprivileged. I bet you kick [Removed for Content] with you mythical weapon though - grats on T2 twink pvp in T8!

Statewrestler101

03-09-2008, 02:46 PM

This coming from a guy who got his mythical yesterday... im not saying i want easy mode writs. I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET TOKENS FOR [Removed for Content] SAKE! its not fair that exileds get to keep raiding when we dont get to pvp for gear... And dont say it is our faults cause exileds are the one who petitioned it and then laughed afterwards.

KannaWhoopass

03-09-2008, 03:16 PM

Well well well how pathetic is this.. Ohhh boo hooo hoo I want my mass token grab back ... because its unfair that Exiles still need to Raid for 20 hours a week for gear but my stand on the docks and PvP on the writ giver was suspended , my super easy bordering on expoit method of achieving PvP gear is down at the moment.So we should suspend the Exile faction !! , they are working for their rewards !! this is not fair at all .. Seriously Freeport and Qeynos aer in dire need of an enima , cause form the sounds of it .. they are full of ____

Sorffats

03-09-2008, 03:41 PM

<cite>Jitter@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well well well how pathetic is this.. Ohhh boo hooo hoo I want my mass token grab back ... because its unfair that Exiles still need to Raid for 20 hours a week for gear but my stand on the docks and PvP on the writ giver was suspended , my super easy bordering on expoit method of achieving PvP gear is down at the moment.So we should suspend the Exile faction !! , they are working for their rewards !! this is not fair at all .. Seriously Freeport and Qeynos aer in dire need of an enima , cause form the sounds of it .. they are full of ____ </blockquote>Yes, suspend the Exile faction. Not because you are "working hard" to get your gear, but because it goes against the very lore of this server. If Freeport and Qeynos aren't given every single class to be able to utilize, then neither shoudl the exiled. Exiled works for their gear, etc.; but only becaue you are given the means to be able to make the work worth it in the end. the city factions aren't given the means to do so.This is a pvp server, good vs evil. The exiled faction has disrupted the balance of what THIS server is. There never should have been an exiled faction that could group with, guild with, raid with, and talk to classes of opposite alignments. Are all of you exileds really so jealous that a city facton MIGHT be able to beat you in pvp or in raiding that you don't want us to have teh ability to be equal? That is the real truth. You see our plight in the city factions, yet you say how only YOU in exiled deserve all classes, the ability to raid, and the capability of utilizing every class in the game. The way I see it, that makes you so completely inferior because you NEED all that to get on top and be the first to kill that raid mob or get that high end gear. If you really think that you are THAT good without needing all the extra ez-mode exiled crap, then petition along with us to balance the city factions. Or keep like you have been in thinking how much better you are than everyone, when everyone else see's how wimpish you REALLY are because you had to go ez-mode to do it.

Grol

03-09-2008, 05:43 PM

<cite>Amatheon@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>THramir your on a PVE server right? We are faction based guilds here that are complaining. We only have the evil or good set of classes. I imagine your guild has all classes in it that it raids with. Its extremely hard actually hasn't been done so far that a faction based guild can get to vp not even mentioning the Mythical's.</blockquote>Well I know I'm a bit late in answering this, but look at my sig. Venekor. That's the RP PVP server, remember? I know all about faction guilds and whatnot.And.. I do believe that many faction based guilds have gotten their epics for some members, including my guild on vene, Firiona Vie's Champions. Some of our members have their epics, through the work and determinatino of the guild and allies.Hell, all guilds that are complaining abuot this should just band together and do epic runs together or something. I am not level 80, I am not working on an epic. But knowing people who have them, and have gotten them recently, I c an say that it's definitely possible.

Owa

03-09-2008, 06:09 PM

`<cite>Kanesh_The_Mad wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Amatheon@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>THramir your on a PVE server right? We are faction based guilds here that are complaining. We only have the evil or good set of classes. I imagine your guild has all classes in it that it raids with. Its extremely hard actually hasn't been done so far that a faction based guild can get to vp not even mentioning the Mythical's.</blockquote>Well I know I'm a bit late in answering this, but look at my sig. Venekor. That's the RP PVP server, remember? I know all about faction guilds and whatnot.And.. I do believe that many faction based guilds have gotten their epics for some members, including my guild on vene, Firiona Vie's Champions. Some of our members have their epics, through the work and determinatino of the guild and allies.Hell, all guilds that are complaining abuot this should just band together and do epic runs together or something. I am not level 80, I am not working on an epic. But knowing people who have them, and have gotten them recently, I c an say that it's definitely possible.</blockquote>Epics are not the problem, mate. Anyone can get an epic. What people are discussing is getting the mythical version of the epic - which many pople think is skewed against the city factions.

Grol

03-09-2008, 06:13 PM

<cite>Owain wrote:</cite><blockquote>`<cite>Kanesh_The_Mad wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Amatheon@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>THramir your on a PVE server right? We are faction based guilds here that are complaining. We only have the evil or good set of classes. I imagine your guild has all classes in it that it raids with. Its extremely hard actually hasn't been done so far that a faction based guild can get to vp not even mentioning the Mythical's.</blockquote>Well I know I'm a bit late in answering this, but look at my sig. Venekor. That's the RP PVP server, remember? I know all about faction guilds and whatnot.And.. I do believe that many faction based guilds have gotten their epics for some members, including my guild on vene, Firiona Vie's Champions. Some of our members have their epics, through the work and determinatino of the guild and allies.Hell, all guilds that are complaining abuot this should just band together and do epic runs together or something. I am not level 80, I am not working on an epic. But knowing people who have them, and have gotten them recently, I c an say that it's definitely possible.</blockquote>Epics are not the problem, mate. Anyone can get an epic. What people are discussing is getting the mythical version of the epic - which many pople think is skewed against the city factions.</blockquote>I did mean the mythical version, not the normal epic.

Owa

03-09-2008, 06:30 PM

You did mean the mythical version? And you're sure FVC has people who've got the mythical versions? Skeptical tbh.

Grol

03-09-2008, 06:47 PM

<cite>Owain wrote:</cite><blockquote>You did mean the mythical version? And you're sure FVC has people who've got the mythical versions? Skeptical tbh.</blockquote>hmm..perhaps not.. now I'm trying to recall =/Anyway, I know of people then that have recently obtained mythicals, that are not exiled. Besides.. not all that many exiled that I can see ON vene... I have an exiled warden while I'm betraying him, and the most I've seen on so far was 26, compared to the hundreds of factioned people.