View Full Version : Trakanon is defeated..now what?
Anestacia
03-07-2008, 02:28 AM
I wont post any spoilers but the lore after Trak's death is very interesting. NPU has graciasly posted <a href="http://npu.guildportal.com/Guild.aspx?GuildID=54154&TabID=473231" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">screenshots</a> of what is said after the fight. Seems a little more clear now what the next expansion will deal with.
Cusashorn
03-07-2008, 02:42 AM
<p>Well I have no problem with discussing the spoilers.</p><p>Hmm. Turns out the Soulfire has a name. Aeteock. Mayong Mistmoore intentionally allowed it's return to Lucan D'Lere.</p><p>Mayong Mistmoore tells you of a calender that the Shissar had built, marking the end of the universe. Age's End, as it is called. Mayong must continue his research, and he will let you hang onto the stone for the time being. As it stands now, Mayong is forming a mutual pact with you in order to uncover the secrets of the Void.</p><p>I must say, I'd never think Mayong would be helping us for once, even if he still has his own interests in mind.</p>
TheLopper
03-07-2008, 04:34 AM
<p>So, based off the text, the next enpansion is either in the Tower of Ethernere (sp), or the Void.</p><p>Or am I just completely misinterpreting it?</p>
Apocroph
03-07-2008, 05:28 AM
This whole story arc is starting to feel woefully unoriginal. I suppose next we'll be hearing about a previously unknown moon called Nabaru that is going to jack up the cosmos. /yawnCan we stop with the ultimate evil powers going completely undetected until their expansion comes around? I really doubt that Norrath could be playing host to so many beings of terrible power and ill intent without us noticing something amiss.
Lodrelhai
03-07-2008, 06:02 AM
Except we've been fighting the Void and its agents since EQ2 first launched, and hearing about Ethermere's connection to all this since at least Tribulation. Hardly completely undetected powers prior to their expansion. (Assuming they get one.)My guess offhand would be Ethermere rather than the Void. For one thing, that gives us at least two major extensions to the storyline to work through (no, I'm not sick of it yet). For another, I'm thinking that perhaps either succeeding where Varsoon and Everling failed, or discovering firsthand some reason why their pursuit was doomed to fail from the start, may end up being a key to driving off the Void.Though I wouldn't mind an expansion or three that involved connecting to those other worlds the Void is infiltrating...
Apocroph
03-07-2008, 06:21 AM
<cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite><blockquote>Except we've been fighting the Void and its agents since EQ2 first launched, and hearing about Ethermere's connection to all this since at least Tribulation. Hardly completely undetected powers prior to their expansion. (Assuming they get one.)<span style="color: #ff0000;">It was fine until we started on the Norrathian version of 12/21/2012.</span>My guess offhand would be Ethermere rather than the Void. For one thing, that gives us at least two major extensions to the storyline to work through (no, I'm not sick of it yet). For another, I'm thinking that perhaps either succeeding where Varsoon and Everling failed, or discovering firsthand some reason why their pursuit was doomed to fail from the start, may end up being a key to driving off the Void.<span style="color: #ff0000;">Varsoon and Everling are punkass chumps compared to Mayong Mistmoore. I wouldn't count on them playing too great a role in something of this magnitude. Bit parts, sure.</span>Though I wouldn't mind an expansion or three that involved connecting to those other worlds the Void is infiltrating...<span style="color: #ff0000;">We don't need a cut-rate Burning Crusade here. Alter planes good, different planets bad.</span></blockquote>What I was driving at is that the revolving side door for ULTIMATE EVIL ENTITIES is getting a little tired. Honestly, how many fourth-graders can you fit in a sandbox full of pre-schoolers before they start to take notice of each other?
shadowscale
03-07-2008, 08:59 AM
<cite>kuraan wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>What I was driving at is that the revolving side door for ULTIMATE EVIL ENTITIES is getting a little tired. Honestly, how many fourth-graders can you fit in a sandbox full of pre-schoolers before they start to take notice of each other?</blockquote>so what? are you suggesting an expansion with no end raid boss or something? what else can they do really.
Cusashorn
03-07-2008, 09:17 AM
Why does everyone think that the absolute next expansion is going to be about the Ethernere? Combine this with Missdoomcookie's topic, and thats what everyone is thinking. They've hinted at future expansions well well ahead of time. We could be looking at this after the return of Odus or Innothule Swamp or whatever else.
<p>Personally i'm not looking into distant lands to be discovered, but what could happen now. Could another obelisk possibly pop up some where or be discovered? </p><p>We had seen no shadowedman presence within RoK which is kind of concerning. Either they consider that land devoid of what they seek or they are already there keeping their presence hidden. Personally i'm voting for the 2nd option instead of the first. </p>
Killerbee3000
03-07-2008, 10:22 AM
<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>Why does everyone think that the absolute next expansion is going to be about the Ethernere? Combine this with Missdoomcookie's topic, and thats what everyone is thinking. They've hinted at future expansions well well ahead of time. We could be looking at this after the return of Odus or Innothule Swamp or whatever else.</blockquote>there are so many unfinished stories that it could be pretty much anything that comes next, just my 2 cents though.
Apocroph
03-07-2008, 03:10 PM
<cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>kuraan wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>What I was driving at is that the revolving side door for ULTIMATE EVIL ENTITIES is getting a little tired. Honestly, how many fourth-graders can you fit in a sandbox full of pre-schoolers before they start to take notice of each other?</blockquote>so what? are you suggesting an expansion with no end raid boss or something? what else can they do really.</blockquote>In a place like Kunark or Velious, there's enough history to not have to rely on the OMGULTIMATEEVILGUY nonsense. Why does every expansion have to be about stopping the destruction of the world? Why does it always have to culminate in taking out a megalomanic bent on world domination?Why can't we have one or two about exploring a lost/ruined land and defeating the folks that aren't happy about your intrusion? Dragons aren't always up to no good... Lots of times, they're just hoarding a bunch of really cool stuff, and the same can be said for lots of powerful beings for us to kill.It's always doomsday this, apocalypse that, set on the same bitterly contested battlefield on the brink of oblivion.
shadowscale
03-07-2008, 03:51 PM
<cite>kuraan wrote:</cite><blockquote>Why can't we have one or two about exploring a lost/ruined land and defeating the folks that aren't happy about your intrusion? Dragons aren't always up to no good... Lots of times, they're just hoarding a bunch of really cool stuff, and the same can be said for lots of powerful beings for us to kill.</blockquote>so you want the raiders to be the bad guy? that can almost end the world as well. look what happened in PoP
Coniaric
03-07-2008, 06:14 PM
<cite>Amana wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Personally i'm not looking into distant lands to be discovered, but what could happen now. Could another obelisk possibly pop up some where or be discovered? </p><p>We had seen no shadowedman presence within RoK which is kind of concerning. Either they consider that land devoid of what they seek or they are already there keeping their presence hidden. Personally i'm voting for the 2nd option instead of the first. </p></blockquote><p>Your second option is likely correct ... there is a shadowman presence ... and it's Fiddy (and the adventurers) they're using to gain the Stone for themselves.</p><p>Ultimately they failed. Through Fiddy, they send us to die with the Leviathan. We didn't die upon the defeat of the Leviathan after the Greenmist is used. So we get the Stone and they didn't.</p><p>Then with Trakanon's defeat, we gain the medallion to complete the Stone.</p><p>So ... instead of them holding the Stone, it will be us who have the Stone in our possession. Mayong "permitted" us to keep it. For now.</p><p>Also ... I don't believe the "ultimate evil" is here yet ... it's still a bit way off.</p><p>With RoK, we gain another insight of the upcoming battle. Since the start of EQ2, the shadowmen were more visible (they were invisible entities in EQLive) and first Obelisk made its presence in Feerrott. In that, we find a list of vessels they're using or had used, along with some fragments of lore. Then second obelisk was found in Lesser Faydark (a couple of expansions later) with even more pieces of lore, including their plan to possess Woushi. On Kunark, they're trying to get the Chelsith Stone. </p><p>So there is a build-up toward the grand finale ... or something like that.</p>
Apocroph
03-07-2008, 06:35 PM
<cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>so you want the raiders to be the bad guy? that can almost end the world as well. look what happened in PoP</blockquote>And it was a refreshing change of pace, aside from the fact that we were attacking the gods themselves. I was thinking more along the lines of lost temples with their priests of forgotten gods, etc. Maybe something like Takish'Hiz/Silent City, exploring Norrath's past, rather than trying to continually up the ante with these psychopaths that are set on destroying the world.They don't all have to be like this... Just a little more variety. It's the spice of life, y'know.
Gukkor2
03-07-2008, 07:52 PM
<cite>kuraan wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>shadowscale wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>kuraan wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>What I was driving at is that the revolving side door for ULTIMATE EVIL ENTITIES is getting a little tired. Honestly, how many fourth-graders can you fit in a sandbox full of pre-schoolers before they start to take notice of each other?</blockquote>so what? are you suggesting an expansion with no end raid boss or something? what else can they do really.</blockquote>In a place like Kunark or Velious, there's enough history to not have to rely on the OMGULTIMATEEVILGUY nonsense. Why does every expansion have to be about stopping the destruction of the world? Why does it always have to culminate in taking out a megalomanic bent on world domination?Why can't we have one or two about exploring a lost/ruined land and defeating the folks that aren't happy about your intrusion? Dragons aren't always up to no good... Lots of times, they're just hoarding a bunch of really cool stuff, and the same can be said for lots of powerful beings for us to kill.It's always doomsday this, apocalypse that, set on the same bitterly contested battlefield on the brink of oblivion.</blockquote><p>Which megalomaniacs? Mistmoore, yes, but he's always got his hands in everything. Venril Sathir and a few others could count, but they've mostly been bit players, really. </p><p>Which ultimate evil guys? I actually can't think of one enemy we've defeated that would qualify as that. The only overarching antagonist in EQ2's storyline so far has been whoever's behind the Void invasion, and we don't even know who that is yet. </p><p>Have we really saved the world that many times already? Not that I can count. So far, I don't think we've actually saved the entire world even one time. We've really only been taking out more localized threats. Do many of these encounters tie into a bigger picture? Yeah, but so what? That's just called "having a central storyline." There's nothing wrong with that. </p>
Rainmare
03-07-2008, 11:48 PM
lets see. original game, we defeated Darathar, who was attempting to get a prismatic egg for his own use.Splitpaw and Bloodlines...we defeated the Underpaw leader to save the splitpaw gnolls for being devoured, and we defeated T'haen mostly to prevent him from getting loose and going on a turning spree to challenge Mayong.DoF...that was us learning about and destroying the Ewer, so it could not be used by 'evil' parties. namely vampire house D'morte.KoS...this is probably our only to date 'save the world' expansion. and mostly we were saving it from the one dragon in KoS who was intent on doing it, which I believe was Lord Vyemn, to gain favor with Kerafrym who the Awakened cult have turned into thier replacement for Veeshan. and then of course looking for the Qeynos Claymore.EoF...we're helping Lucan get Soulfire back from Mayong, and defeating Woushi to free Tunare's Bloom from him, and we learn about the prophecy of the former Queen Thex and Age's End for really the first time.RoK...we're looking to recover the Chelsith Stone, then confront Trakanon for the amulet he has and the information he can give us about Age's End through his prophetic power. once we do, Mayong allows us to keep it, while he looks for the Shissar calendar about Age's End, and the monuments of Theer. he hints that the Chelsith stone, combined with the monuments would 'unlock' age's end, and that the Shadowed Men are either just guarding the monuments and searching for the Stone, or searching for both.also, in the text, there is an interesting tidbit. Mistmyr, apparently, was a place mayong was from. perhaps his kingdom of origin?
<cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>lets see. original game, we defeated Darathar, who was attempting to get a prismatic egg for his own use.Splitpaw and Bloodlines...we defeated the Underpaw leader to save the splitpaw gnolls for being devoured, and we defeated T'haen mostly to prevent him from getting loose and going on a turning spree to challenge Mayong.DoF...that was us learning about and destroying the Ewer, so it could not be used by 'evil' parties. namely vampire house D'morte.KoS...this is probably our only to date 'save the world' expansion. and mostly we were saving it from the one dragon in KoS who was intent on doing it, which I believe was Lord Vyemn, to gain favor with Kerafrym who the Awakened cult have turned into thier replacement for Veeshan. and then of course looking for the Qeynos Claymore.EoF...we're helping Lucan get Soulfire back from Mayong, and defeating Woushi to free Tunare's Bloom from him, and we learn about the prophecy of the former Queen Thex and Age's End for really the first time.RoK...we're looking to recover the Chelsith Stone, then confront Trakanon for the amulet he has and the information he can give us about Age's End through his prophetic power. once we do, Mayong allows us to keep it, while he looks for the Shissar calendar about Age's End, and the monuments of Theer. he hints that the Chelsith stone, combined with the monuments would 'unlock' age's end, and that the Shadowed Men are either just guarding the monuments and searching for the Stone, or searching for both.also, in the text, there is an interesting tidbit. Mistmyr, apparently, was a place mayong was from. perhaps his kingdom of origin?</blockquote><p>Yup that all sounds about right imho. Kind of hard to trust mayong mistmoore imho since we are dealing with an almost ungodly entity. </p><p>I'm kind of surprised Ol Naggy hasn't poked his head into Kunark with the Ring of Scale being there and all. </p>
Themaginator
03-08-2008, 08:21 PM
<cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>lets see. original game, we defeated Darathar, who was attempting to get a prismatic egg for his own use.Splitpaw and Bloodlines...we defeated the Underpaw leader to save the splitpaw gnolls for being devoured, and we defeated T'haen mostly to prevent him from getting loose and going on a turning spree to challenge Mayong.DoF...that was us learning about and destroying the Ewer, so it could not be used by 'evil' parties. namely vampire house D'morte.KoS...this is probably our only to date 'save the world' expansion. and mostly we were saving it from the one dragon in KoS who was intent on doing it, which I believe was Lord Vyemn, to gain favor with Kerafrym who the Awakened cult have turned into thier replacement for Veeshan. and then of course looking for the Qeynos Claymore.EoF...we're helping Lucan get Soulfire back from Mayong, and defeating Woushi to free Tunare's Bloom from him, and we learn about the prophecy of the former Queen Thex and Age's End for really the first time.RoK...we're looking to recover the Chelsith Stone, then confront Trakanon for the amulet he has and the information he can give us about Age's End through his prophetic power. once we do, Mayong allows us to keep it, while he looks for the Shissar calendar about Age's End, and the monuments of Theer. he hints that the Chelsith stone, combined with the monuments would 'unlock' age's end, and that the Shadowed Men are either just guarding the monuments and searching for the Stone, or searching for both.<span style="font-size: medium;"><u><b>also, in the text, there is an interesting tidbit. Mistmyr, apparently, was a place mayong was from. perhaps his kingdom of origin?</b></u></span></blockquote>This is what i think to, its all very interesting.
<cite>Sashtan@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>lets see. original game, we defeated Darathar, who was attempting to get a prismatic egg for his own use.Splitpaw and Bloodlines...we defeated the Underpaw leader to save the splitpaw gnolls for being devoured, and we defeated T'haen mostly to prevent him from getting loose and going on a turning spree to challenge Mayong.DoF...that was us learning about and destroying the Ewer, so it could not be used by 'evil' parties. namely vampire house D'morte.KoS...this is probably our only to date 'save the world' expansion. and mostly we were saving it from the one dragon in KoS who was intent on doing it, which I believe was Lord Vyemn, to gain favor with Kerafrym who the Awakened cult have turned into thier replacement for Veeshan. and then of course looking for the Qeynos Claymore.EoF...we're helping Lucan get Soulfire back from Mayong, and defeating Woushi to free Tunare's Bloom from him, and we learn about the prophecy of the former Queen Thex and Age's End for really the first time.RoK...we're looking to recover the Chelsith Stone, then confront Trakanon for the amulet he has and the information he can give us about Age's End through his prophetic power. once we do, Mayong allows us to keep it, while he looks for the Shissar calendar about Age's End, and the monuments of Theer. he hints that the Chelsith stone, combined with the monuments would 'unlock' age's end, and that the Shadowed Men are either just guarding the monuments and searching for the Stone, or searching for both.<span style="font-size: medium;"><u><b>also, in the text, there is an interesting tidbit. Mistmyr, apparently, was a place mayong was from. perhaps his kingdom of origin?</b></u></span></blockquote>This is what i think to, its all very interesting.</blockquote>I would have to really think about it, but I believe Mayong was in EQ2. There was abarrently a vampire "lord" terrorizing a small village from within his crypt. Your job was to find him and root him out. However that could be wrong and he may have resided in the crypt with the drachnids.
Coniaric
03-12-2008, 12:17 AM
<cite>Amana wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yup that all sounds about right imho. Kind of hard to trust mayong mistmoore imho since we are dealing with an almost ungodly entity. <p>I'm kind of surprised Ol Naggy hasn't poked his head into Kunark with the Ring of Scale being there and all.</p></blockquote><p>My question is: Is Nagafen once again a prisoner in Solusek Eye since his escape and his visit to Vox before she was killed?</p><p>If he was, that's probably why he wasn't or didn't get involved.</p>
CyonideWolfp
03-12-2008, 03:17 AM
<p>I wanted to take a minute to thank everyone for posting some of the Lore here, and guesses about future expansions. I love this game lore and not being elite enough to be in a raid guild that's ever going to see these texts for myself, it's great to be able to read what's happening out there.</p><p>On a side note...Go Mistmoore! Seriously, he's the coolest character in the game.</p><p>I hope, if they continue to move forward with the story line, either regarding the hometown of Mistmoore or fighting Void monster, maybe they offer packs like Bloodline or Splitpaw that regards revisited Lore.</p><p>Make some based off Live...Make Kael or Thurg, Dulak, City of Mist, Kurns Tower, Planes (old world ones, not PoP)...something like that. Just some ideas. But if the future expansions aren't going to reflect revisiting of old Lore, maybe give us old EQ1 addicts some more places to revisit, and see how they've changed....</p>
sgtraf
03-13-2008, 11:54 AM
<p>I don't think I have ever posted on these forums but I have read a lot of them and the lore and legend is probably my favorite because it brings a sense of reality and purpose to the virtual world, with that said I will post my opinion on the subject.</p><p>In my opinion is obvious that at some point there will be an expansion dedicated to the void. From day one there has been a lot of speculation and theories in the forums about there origin of the shadow man and the void beast's and their reason to be here. </p><p>I am not much of a writer but I have a lot on my mind about the subject and I will try to explain the why I think I know the why and how they got here and how this will play a major roll in future expansions in the shortest way possible.</p><p>In my opinion everything that has happen to the world of EQ2 happen because of one reason and that is the departure of the gods. The reason the shadow man and the void beast are here is because of this. If you take the words of Zeb from back at EQ1 you can find clues about what was to happen in the future. There is a post around here about the words of Zebuxoruk with an interesting text that happens right after Quarm is defeated and Zeb is released that I will quote:</p><p>Zebuxoruk staggers about and looks at you drowsy, from his weakened state. 'My thanks to you. I am surprised to see you have made it here. We must get back to Norrath. The time has come for me to share my knowledge. Something is coming, a threat to us all, and the sands in the hourglass are thinning. Make haste and take me back the way you came.' </p><p> Zebuxoruk says, 'I am surprised at the gods for taking such drastic measures, though I suppose all of the creations of the Nameless are capable of displaying poor judgment and irrational behavior. These gods are burdened with powers and responsibilities beyond our comprehension, yet at times even they do not understand the eventual effect of their actions. I am compelled to share the knowledge of the gods with the populace of Norrath, so that I might save their creations. <span style="color: #cc0000;">They do not realize that if mortality ceases to exist... if they are not worshipped and held aloft by the beliefs of those that they now have grown to fear... they will fall from power and a new age of darkness will wash over existence as they know it. I did not seek to interfere with them or their realms, only to free them from a fate that awaits all of us. It is this fate that now stands ready, greedily gathered on the edge of the void, ready to test the will of all mortals</span>.'</p><p>From here the story continues to Druzzil Ro appearing and resetting time back so that Zeb doesn't escape and bring the whole time split and looping of the fabric story that explains how EQ2 world became to be. I am sure that most of you are familiar with the story and if not I invite you read The words of Zebuxoruk, it is an interesting read and I will post it at the end.</p><p>Now technically speaking Zeb did escape but not in the world of eq1 he escaped in an alternate reality, a world that was different in some way but at the same time it was the same. This world is what Zeb was talking about when he mentioned:</p><p>-I did not seek to interfere with them or their realms, only to free them from a fate that awaits all of us.-</p><p>And that is:</p><p>-They do not realize that if mortality ceases to exist... if they are not worshipped....</p><p>they will fall from power and a new age of darkness will wash over existence as they know it.-</p><p>Proof that he did escape is in the book of Zeb in N.Freeport at the arcane science building:</p><p>So what does this has to do with the shadow man?</p><p>The answer is in the text that follows:</p><p>It is this fate that now stands ready, greedily gathered on the edge of the void, ready to test the will of all mortals.</p><p>It is this edge of the void that we stand, in fact we are so close to the edge that it is been manifesting all over the world. This shadow men and void beast roaming all over the world are only the physical manifestation of a world that is deteriorating due to the lack of maintenance from the Gods them selves.</p><p>So it is also possible that the events that took place in EQ1 that split the fabric of time and space will come back and play a major roll in the future. After all it was what started the whole mess. </p><p>NOTES:</p><p>-It is also possible that the void is the space between the world of EQ1 and EQ2 but this is just speculation. I am more positive that is got something to do with the previous.</p><p>-I am not surprised that Mistmoore is doing some research, after all this guy has been around since the times of EQOA and that is about 500 years before EQ1 so it is only natural that he is concern about what is going on in the world he calls his home.</p><p>-The Gods are returning because they realize they need to be worshiped in order to exist.</p><p>P.S </p><p>I didn't have time to go over and see what I wrote so my apologies if it doesn't make sense. </p><p>The words of ZebuxorukIt is my intention to record the events I have witnessed that all mortals may be given an understanding concerning the fabric of reality that we now find ourselves in. Those who were with me in that hour would have no recollection of this most important event transpiring around them. If they do have a remembrance then it is as a fleeting touch upon the mind, as if it were a feather drifting within thought, unable to lay hold upon with a hand of understanding. For the minds of mortals are a mysterious thing, even to those that make claim upon their creation.And so it came to pass that the races of Norrath gathered together in the place where time cannot be measured for it was time itself, both no time and all times at once. And here did they seek me that I may give them knowledge that I had obtained that was forbidden by the gods of Norrath. But this knowledge I have not recorded upon these pages as it is for another recording for another time and another place. And so I make a writing concerning the events that transpired upon my liberation from stasis at the hands of these mortals.As I was to impart my forbidden knowledge to them the Matron of the Art, even Druzzil Ro, manifested herself before us and forbade me to share my knowledge with them saying 'Zebuxoruk, my student I cannot allow this to happen. If you were to escape from another prison the will and power of the gods will have been compromised!' Addressing me she also spake saying 'I must set things back to how they were before you and these mortals arrived here, I believe that you cannot understand this and I am sorry.' And in so saying weaved her incantation that these mortals' time as well as my own would be returned to the place of her appointment. However, this was not all that transpired. For I beheld the fabric of time that all beings travel upon unfurled before me as a scroll of exquisite parchment. And I beheld that the parchment neatly tore in twain at that moment of the Matron's command, but not as two parts of a whole but as two wholes of the same whole each containing the same words and symbols and they continued on as before, completely unaware of one another. I then watched as one of the parchments curled upon itself for the space of time appointed by the Matron of the Art so that the parchment did not continue forward for the space of several hours before once again continuing on before me. And it came to pass that the two parchments continued on before me into parts I could no longer see, one traveling before the other and the words and symbols upon them both began to change, slightly at first but more and more profoundly as they continued on. And the space of time between them was the very same number of hours that was the appointed time of the Matron. And all this I saw before my loss of consciousness and subsequent reawakening.I now must make an end to this writing not knowing which of the fabrics of time I now find myself upon. Is it the one that the Matron made curl upon itself? Is it the one that continued on with the changing words and symbols? Or could I be on both, the one part having no knowledge of the other? In the end it may matter not but for the sake of knowledge and wisdom I have written this now so that this event may be remembered.</p>
Psychotic One
03-16-2008, 08:47 PM
<p>I'm almost willing to bet that the monument he speaks of will be what the Eurdites used to create their spontanious evolution and resides on Odus or in the Hole somewhere. At some point during the epic quest for that expansion the shadowed men will steal the orb from you and the "ticking" clock will begin for the raiders. </p><p> A relic of power like that seems like reason enough the Quellious and Thullian baldies would put aside their diffrences in search for more arcane knowledge.</p>
Cantido
03-20-2008, 05:26 PM
I was actually talking with my guildies about Obelisk of Blight the other day, and thinking of what would be next in terms of a Void invasion. I remember hearing a while ago that there were three stages of a Void invasion upon a plane: Obelisk of Lost Souls, Obelisk of Blight, and Obelisk of Doom. At the point of Obelisk of Doom, the plane is pretty much screwed. Perhaps there could be an Obelisk of Doom raid zone with the fate of the entire plane at stake? Sounds like a classic story to me.
Coniaric
03-20-2008, 07:42 PM
<p>I'm thinking with revelations that came with Rise of Kunark ... we probably should go back and take another look at Zebuxoruk's prophecies. "The end" is mentioned several times ... it appears to refers to The Age's End. And the "etched in stone" part is probably the Stone of Chelsith.</p><p>__________</p><p>(Discovered inside Castle Mistmoore,) this book is newly bound, and seems to be a collection of Zebuxoruk's prophecies as told to the monks of the Whistling Fist in the Tower of the Four Winds. Notes are scribbled in the margins in clean penmanship. (The scribbles are made by the Sage that resides in the library.)</p><p>1. <b>Once more, her allies will give rise to the thought of life anew. </b>"Definitely a reference to Tunare. The presence of growth in the Lesser Faydark is undeniable." -SV</p><p>2. <b>The hissing of the serpent shall strike back at this world with unexpected ferocity.</b> "Unknown at this time. Perhaps more to be uncovered in the future? -SV" </p><p>3. <b>Those who toil in eternity shall find riches in the dusk of time.</b> "Likely a simple proverb. I can't imagine this being more... -SV"</p><p>4. <b>Forever the commander he has now risen in rank to play his part in ages end.</b> "I wonder if this is Lucan or Rallos? The wording is not clear enough to make a solid prediction. -SV"</p><p>5. <b>In the guise of harmony the mirror is flipped and chaos walks among us.</b> "I have no idea at this time. Chaos? Guise of harmony? Makes little sense to me. -SV" </p><p>6. <b>Those from below shall attempt to further their agenda below the throne of Brell.</b> "Most assuredly the ratonga. Our network of informants has indicated that they are up to something in the ancient dwarven halls of Kaladim. -SV"</p><p>7. <b>Cleft in twine at the dawn of time, the two shall stand once more in a united front against that which brings the end.</b> "Ahh, this is your favorite, my master. I believe this will be very crucial to your research. I trust you already know what this references. -SV" </p><p>8. <b>From realms below and beyond the lord of darkness shall return to play his part in destiny.</b> "Ahh, my master! You are indeed referenced in the fallen one's ramblings! -SV" </p><p>9. <b>The orbs are not so great as the crimson lord might have you believe but they are powerful. Beware service in his name.</b> "Feh. Nagafen and the eggs of his brood. This is of little use to us. -SV"</p><p>10. <b>She who represents the forbidden two shall begin the march of fate.</b> "I am at a loss to explain this reference. -SV" </p><p>11. <b>Etched in stone, the first key from dawn shall be revealed.</b> "Another line of great import, I believe. This may reference the stone which you have been researching. -SV" </p><p>12. <b>The age of the dragons is waning though they know it not. Seek now your fortune in the affairs of the other mortal races.</b> "And the Claws will get their due. Though I believe 'mortal races' to be a mistake. Obviously the ungod forgets us. -SV"</p><p>13. <b>The Nine shall return and face the end.</b> "And the true key. We just do not know the ninth. I trust you will find the information though. -SV"</p>
ke'la
03-20-2008, 11:44 PM
<cite>Amana wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>lets see. original game, we defeated Darathar, who was attempting to get a prismatic egg for his own use.Splitpaw and Bloodlines...we defeated the Underpaw leader to save the splitpaw gnolls for being devoured, and we defeated T'haen mostly to prevent him from getting loose and going on a turning spree to challenge Mayong.DoF...that was us learning about and destroying the Ewer, so it could not be used by 'evil' parties. namely vampire house D'morte.KoS...this is probably our only to date 'save the world' expansion. and mostly we were saving it from the one dragon in KoS who was intent on doing it, which I believe was Lord Vyemn, to gain favor with Kerafrym who the Awakened cult have turned into thier replacement for Veeshan. and then of course looking for the Qeynos Claymore.EoF...we're helping Lucan get Soulfire back from Mayong, and defeating Woushi to free Tunare's Bloom from him, and we learn about the prophecy of the former Queen Thex and Age's End for really the first time.RoK...we're looking to recover the Chelsith Stone, then confront Trakanon for the amulet he has and the information he can give us about Age's End through his prophetic power. once we do, Mayong allows us to keep it, while he looks for the Shissar calendar about Age's End, and the monuments of Theer. he hints that the Chelsith stone, combined with the monuments would 'unlock' age's end, and that the Shadowed Men are either just guarding the monuments and searching for the Stone, or searching for both.also, in the text, there is an interesting tidbit. Mistmyr, apparently, was a place mayong was from. perhaps his kingdom of origin?</blockquote><p>Yup that all sounds about right imho. Kind of hard to trust mayong mistmoore imho since we are dealing with an almost ungodly entity. </p><p>I'm kind of surprised Ol Naggy hasn't poked his head into Kunark with the Ring of Scale being there and all. </p></blockquote>I think the Ring of Scale's presence is why Naggy has kept his head down in RoK, they are not on the best of terms... besides he has a whole clutch of prismatic eggs to protect.
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