Please dont let the Slightly changed "PEEL" go live.

[mr23sgte]

<p>I copied to pvp test --the new peel just plain lousy. It needs to be improved, </p><p>1) Drop the hate positions gain and make the lock a true 30 seconds IMO so we can still use our stun stance! </p><p>2) Add epic immunity to "PEEL" like dev fist "can only be used 1 time/mob. </p><p>This solves the VP farming, is still a nerf - but doesnt destroy the Monk level 80 ability.</p>

[x0rtrun]

Think harder Homer. Adding epic immunity is a bad idea. That would totally ruin it for raiding and make us useless as offtank.

[Morrias]

<p> Its not slighty changed, its just plain RUINED it totally screws over any monk that wants to raid.. (Proof that sony dont want monks in raids..?)</p><p> They need to make whatever mob they are worried about Peel making easy and make it immune to Peel.. Problem solved without totally screwing over a class no? <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Kaoru]

I don't think he meant for epics to be immune to peel, but for them to gain a time based immunity once peel is used on them (can't use peel again on the same encounter for say 5 min). Thus preventing the use of multiple monks to keep the mob on total lockdown for the duration of the encounter.

[mr23sgte]

<cite>Kaoru@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote>I don't think he meant for epics to be immune to peel, but for them to gain a time based immunity once peel is used on them (can't use peel again on the same encounter for say 5 min). Thus preventing the use of multiple monks to keep the mob on total lockdown for the duration of the encounter.</blockquote>Correct

[Gungo]

I know everyone wants peel for thier stun buff but really thats a backwards fix for our stun buff.They really need to just make the brawler stun/mit buff a mit buff that roots us. That ability has been useless to both brawlers for far to long and a simple fix to make it root instead of stun would make that ability decent.

[Couching]

If you think that the reason of why peel is nerfed is because it is overpowered or trivialized some raid encounters such as pawbuster or rooted mobs in vp, you are so wrong.Peel is overpowered, no doubt. However, look at other classes and you can count countless overpowered skills as well. Reinforcement, Tower of Stone, Dispatch, TS, Blade dance, hate transfer, etc. Those skills trivialized more contents than peel!Can you imagine how hard raid will be without those skills? Ya, you can still beat the encounters but it's much harder. It's the same that you don't need peel to beat pawbuster or rooted mobs but it's easier with it. I would call those skills as niche of each class rather than overpower. Every class has and should has several overpowered skills. It's their niche, it's why you want to invite those classes to raid. The only reason why peel got nerfed is because constantly whining from other fighters, plate tanks and bruiser. When you only need two tanks or maybe 3 tanks in the raid, any good skill or gear on monk will get nerfed. Look at our epic ! Why? Because people are used that monk as worst unwelcome class in kos and eof. We always sat out of raid in Kos and Eof. Now, we finally got a niche, guess what? Another plate tank or bruiser has to sit out of raid. Of course they are angry and whining. Guys, just give up and suck the change of peel. There is no chance to stop it. At least, we get a fast reuse rescue! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Morrias]

<p>Yeah your right couching, its REALLY clear from sony that they dont want monks raiding, but they need to put it in the Creation screen for monks! "This class <b>sucks</b> at raiding, we (SoE) hate <b>you</b>, you will burn if you pick this class for <b>raiding</b>.."</p><p> (and hey dispatched dont travialize anything it just.... softens the mob up.. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />)</p>

[mr23sgte]

Yeah I guess your right - Rescue 2.0 FTL  ---Its pretty sad, but hey we get an AA devoted on saving money and levelling. /sarcasm off

[Nokrahs]

Peel used to be the Tank upgrade for me as a Raid OT Monk and turnedmy useless Iron Stance (with EoF AA Improvement) to something useful.My Guild never used Peel as a "trick" versus rooted Mobs or something sinceour Main Tank Guard is doing a great Job.But with Peel I had the opportunity to actually help out in critical Situations as a solid OT.however, the Kunark Expansion offered nothing good in the Loot Section for me so far sincemost Leather is tailored for Healers, Gi's are used by random classes now since they can wear itand the only good thing is nerfed to a second Rescue Spell now.I don't want to be better than other classes in either DPS or Tanking but at least not always the"not so good" Option.A little more Game Design sensibility for the People playing the Brawler Classes would not hurt really.Sure I could simply pick a Guard if I want to Tank or a Wizard for more DPS but with the freedom ofchoice in the Fighter Section of this Game I picked the Monk because it suits my style more than a heavyPlate wearer.I don't see myself running over 2000 Quests including Prismas, all Heritage, Claymore, SoD, Epic again with anotherFighter Class either since I need to work in RL to pay my bills (including SOE).Playing Ever Quest since 1999 Release an lived trough a lot of good and bad...but one thing usually worked in EQ1 at some pointand it used to be the Balancing.In EQ2 I'm hoping for this to happen for a long time now but I don't exactly "feel" somthing like a solid class balancing comingmy way since playing.It is not my Job calling for improvements and not my Job calling for Nerfs...EQ2 is  SOE's "Baby" and I believe they know how their Game should work and provide fun for the ENTIRE supporting community.Changes to Peel are SOE's decision and I take it as another balancing step but it feels like something fishy is going on with the Fighter Type Brawler Classes compared to other Fighter Types wearing Plate Armor and running high Amounts of Avoidance.This Game is too old eventually an the Mechanics are perfectly tailored for the usual Archtypes and there is not much Room for Hybrids.still hoping for the better EQ2 somwhere in the near future but my faith is fading slowly.

[Killerbee3000]

<cite>Gungo@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>I know everyone wants peel for thier stun buff but really thats a backwards fix for our stun buff.They really need to just make the brawler stun/mit buff a mit buff that roots us. That ability has been useless to both brawlers for far to long and a simple fix to make it root instead of stun would make that ability decent. </blockquote>just increase the recast on stun buff and remove stun part of it... that way we gain a o [Removed for Content] button without getting overpowered... oh, and no nerf for peel in '08.

[Gladiia]

<p>Aww, now c'mon :/</p><p>And here I thought SoE was finally giving monks a little attention to...well, I guess they are, but now in the wrong direction </p>

[Morrias]

<cite>Gladiia@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Aww, now c'mon :/</p><p>And here I thought SoE was finally giving monks a little attention to...well, I guess they are, but now in the wrong direction </p></blockquote><p> Yeah looks like monks are SoEs new rangers, cept we already sucked at anything we tried, until Peel came along, but thats being taken off us too, we must have abused it in some way only SoE sees, you all should be ashamed of yourselves.. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[mr23sgte]

<p>Welp - I'm done. I'm sure the forum mods will be happy that they no longer need to send me pm's. <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>This is the straw that broke the camels back after 3 years - Testing Feedback is completely ignored. The Monk class is completely [Removed for Content] in raiding. Warhammer can't come out soon enough.</p>