(Tech Savvy, need some advice.) 9600GT card issues.

[Pravius]

Hey guys, I have a pretty good understand of how this all works but just wanted to post this really to see if anyone else was having this issue.  First off I know this issue is not with the card as I can play many other games for hours with this card and have no issue.The issue that I am having is I just purchased a new Nvidia 9600GT.  Whatis happening is when I load EQ2 everything is ok, start playing all seems well, then the system will crash, the strange thing about this is, it will crash and my monitor will try to look for a signal, as if my video card basically went out.  All I will hear is skipping music and will have to do a hard restart in order to get back up.Tried different drivers, made sure power was going to the card ect, I just have no idea what I can do to fix this.  As I said I really wanted to post to see if anyone else has this card yet and are having similar issues with it... or any other g92 nvidia card for that matter.  Here is my DX info for anyone who may have an idea.

[Pravius]

------------------System Information------------------Time of this report: 3/1/2008, 13:59:59       Machine name:   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)System Manufacturer: GBT___       System Model: NVDAACPI               BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 3800+,  MMX,  3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.0GHz             Memory: 3328MB RAM          Page File: 293MB used, 4917MB available        Windows Dir: C:WINDOWS    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)DX Setup Parameters: Not found     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode------------DxDiag Notes------------  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.      Display Tab 1: No problems found. DirectDraw test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 7 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 8 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 9 test results: All tests were successful.        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.          Music Tab: No problems found.          Input Tab: No problems found.        Network Tab: No problems found.--------------------DirectX Debug Levels--------------------Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)---------------Display Devices---------------        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT     Manufacturer: NVIDIA        Chip type: GeForce 9600 GT         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC       Device Key: EnumPCIVEN_10DE&DEV_0622&SUBSYS_C8623842&REV_A1   Display Memory: 512.0 MB     Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.7416 (English)      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)Driver Attributes: Final Retail Driver Date/Size: 2/19/2008 16:35:00, 5963776 bytes      WHQL Logo'd: Yes  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a              VDD: n/a         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys    Mini VDD Date: 2/19/2008 16:35:00, 6788448 bytesDevice Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4562-11CF-0A47-69E800C2CB35}        Vendor ID: 0x10DE        Device ID: 0x0622        SubSys ID: 0xC8623842      Revision ID: 0x00A1      Revision ID: 0x00A1      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A  Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch                    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch                    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch                    {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive                    {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch          Registry: OK     DDraw Status: Enabled       D3D Status: Enabled       AGP Status: EnabledDDraw Test Result: All tests were successful. D3D7 Test Result: All tests were successful. D3D8 Test Result: All tests were successful. D3D9 Test Result: All tests were successful.-------------Sound Devices-------------            Description: Realtek AC97 Audio Default Sound Playback: Yes Default Voice Playback: No            Hardware ID: PCIVEN_10DE&DEV_0059&SUBSYS_AE031458&REV_A2        Manufacturer ID: 1             Product ID: 100                   Type: WDM            Driver Name: ALCXWDM.SYS         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.6240 (English)      Driver Attributes: Final Retail            WHQL Logo'd: Yes          Date and Size: 4/25/2007 15:20:48, 4030144 bytes            Other Files:         Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.         HW Accel Level: Full              Cap Flags: 0xF5F    Min/Max Sample Rate: 8000, 192000Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 26, 25 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 26, 25              HW Memory: 0       Voice Management: No EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: Yes, YesSensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No               Registry: OK      Sound Test Result: Not run            Description: Logitech USB Headset Default Sound Playback: No Default Voice Playback: Yes            Hardware ID: USBVid_046d&Pid_0a01&Rev_0021&MI_00        Manufacturer ID: 65535             Product ID: 65535                   Type: WDM            Driver Name: usbaudio.sys         Driver Version: 5.01.2600.2180 (English)      Driver Attributes: Final Retail            WHQL Logo'd: Yes          Date and Size: 8/4/2004 01:07:56, 59264 bytes            Other Files:         Driver Provider: Microsoft         HW Accel Level: Full              Cap Flags: 0xF5F    Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 0, 0 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0              HW Memory: 0       Voice Management: No EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, NoSensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No               Registry: OK      Sound Test Result: Not run---------------------Sound Capture Devices---------------------            Description: Realtek AC97 Audio  Default Sound Capture: Yes  Default Voice Capture: No            Driver Name: ALCXWDM.SYS         Driver Version: 5.10.0000.6240 (English)      Driver Attributes: Final Retail          Date and Size: 4/25/2007 15:20:48, 4030144 bytes              Cap Flags: 0x41           Format Flags: 0xFFF            Description: Logitech USB Headset  Default Sound Capture: No  Default Voice Capture: Yes            Driver Name: usbaudio.sys         Driver Version: 5.01.2600.2180 (English)      Driver Attributes: Final Retail          Date and Size: 8/4/2004 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n/a        FF Driver: n/aPoll w/ Interrupt: No         Registry: OK-----------USB Devices-----------+ USB Root Hub| Vendor/Product ID: 0x10DE, 0x005A| Matching Device ID: usbroot_hub| Service: usbhub| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/4/2004 01:08:42, 57600 bytes| Driver: usbd.sys, 3/31/2003 07:00:00, 4736 bytes| +-+ Logitech USB G3 (MX51<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Optical Mouse| | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC051| | Location: USB-PS/2 Optical Mouse| | Matching Device ID: usbvid_046d&pid_c051| | Lower Filters: LUsbFilt| | Service: HidUsb| | Driver: hidusb.sys, 8/17/2001 14:02:20, 9600 bytes| | Driver: hidclass.sys, 8/4/2004 02:08:20, 36224 bytes| | Driver: hidparse.sys, 8/4/2004 02:08:16, 24960 bytes| | Driver: hid.dll, 8/4/2004 02:56:42, 20992 bytes| | Driver: LUsbFilt.sys, 4/11/2007 15:33:14, 28688 bytes| | Driver: WdfCoInstaller01005.dll, 4/11/2007 15:33:20, 1419024 bytes| | | +-+ Logitech HID-compliant G3/MX518 Optical Mouse| | | Vendor/Product ID: 0x046D, 0xC051| | | Matching Device ID: hidvid_046d&pid_c051| | | Upper Filters: LMouFilt| | | Lower Filters: LHidFilt| | | Service: mouhid| | | Driver: mouhid.sys, 8/17/2001 13:48:00, 12160 bytes| | | Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/4/2004 01:58:32, 23040 bytes| | | Driver: LHidFilt.Sys, 4/11/2007 15:32:52, 34832 bytes| | | Driver: LMouFilt.Sys, 4/11/2007 15:32:58, 36112 bytes| | | Driver: KHALMNPR.Exe, 4/11/2007 15:32:22, 56080 bytes| | | Driver: WdfCoInstaller01005.dll, 4/11/2007 15:33:20, 1419024 bytes----------------Gameport Devices----------------------------PS/2 Devices------------+ PS/2 Keyboard| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303| Upper Filters: L8042Kbd| Service: i8042prt| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 8/4/2004 02:14:36, 52736 bytes| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/4/2004 01:58:32, 24576 bytes| Driver: L8042Kbd.sys, 4/11/2007 15:32:30, 20496 bytes| + Terminal Server Keyboard Driver| Matching Device ID: rootrdp_kbd| Upper Filters: kbdclass| Service: TermDD| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 03:01:07, 40840 bytes| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/4/2004 01:58:32, 24576 bytes| + Terminal Server Mouse Driver| Matching Device ID: rootrdp_mou| Upper Filters: mouclass| Service: TermDD| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 03:01:07, 40840 bytes| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/4/2004 01:58:32, 23040 bytes----------------------------

[Pravius]

After reading the forums looks like SOE is having a hard time with the newer video cards... at this point the game is unplayable to me.... <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[stuka1000]

EQ2 does have problems with the 8800 cards and now it would appear the 9 series as well, although with a card this new I would be ready to lay a fair portion of the blame on the Nvidia drivers as well.  Check your error logs to see what caused the crash.

[Pravius]

I assume you are refering to event viewer? If not please excuse my ignorance.  I checked eventvwr and there is nothing in it at all.  No reference to anything even happening.  Normally even when I boot back up windows will come up with the, "your system has recovered from a serious error" message.  That is not even happening right now.It's really strange.  Takes about 10 minutes of gameplay for it to happen, also I tried tweaking with everything (all modes of play) even Extreme Performace and it will still crash on me, I refuse to change out video cards just to play EQ2. 

[Pravius]

I have also, just to note, been playing Call of Duty 4 on max settings, Hellgate London, Bioshock, and no issues at all.... just for the record in case any devs read this post.

[stuka1000]

Could you post your Dxdiag file here, it will help the tech guys in locating the possible problem

[Rabulis]

I am likewise having the same problem with my BFG 9600 GT OC.  I bought it yesterday and have been playing for about 10-12 hours straight.  The reason for this is because I was running the game on High setting with a great frame rate, and everything seemed fantastic.  However a couple hours ago, about 9 hours into my play time with the new card, it started to crash just as the maker of the post described.  It would just stop feeding information to my monitor and then I would hear the sound skipping in the background.  I however am running on Windows Vista and have not tried any other games yet.

[Pravius]

DX Diag information is in the post .... 2nd post down.However, I was doing a ton of research on this yesterday and came up with a ton of infomation.  This might be realted to the card and the actual chipset on the card.  This seems to be an issue with the superclocked editions and the overclocked editions, why this is only happening with EQ2 for me is a mystery.  Here is what I found so far.<a href="http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=272011&mpage=1&key=񂚋" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m...ey=񂚋</a>If anyone finds anything out please post here.

[Melrakki]

Running the standard Gigabyte version 9600GT, no problems at all and playing on Very high quality rest of system is AMD 6400+ (3,2GHZ per core) and 2gb memory

[Pravius]

I am starting to think it may have been a batch of chipsets that were shippped from nvidia that were bad.  EDIT:<span class="name"><b>Melrakki what version are u running and do u know the speed the core is running at in the bios?  Just trying to see if it might be an issue with the overclocked cards.</b></span>

[Melrakki]

Gigabyte GeForce 9600 GT NX96T Series (GV-NX96T512H-B)[Display]Processor:        AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6400+ (3214 MHz)Operating System:    Microsoft Windows XP (Service Pack 2)DirectX version:    9.0cGPU processor:        GeForce 9600 GTForceWare version:    174.16Memory:            512 MBVideo BIOS version:    62.94.0d.00.02IRQ:            18Bus:            PCI Express x16[Components]nvCpl.cpl        1.5.1600.01        NVIDIA Control Panel AppletnvExpBar.dll        1.5.1600.01        NVIDIA Control PanelnvCplUI.exe        1.5.1600.01        NVIDIA Control PanelnvWSS.dll        6.14.11.7416        NVIDIA Workstation ServernvViTvS.dll        6.14.11.7416        NVIDIA Video and TV ServernvMoblS.dll        6.14.11.7416        NVIDIA Mobile ServerNVMCTRAY.DLL        6.14.11.7416        NVIDIA Media Center LibraryNVOGLNT.DLL        6.14.11.7416        NVIDIA Compatible OpenGL ICDnvDispS.dll        6.14.11.7416        NVIDIA Display ServerNVCPL.DLL        6.14.11.7416        NVIDIA Compatible Windows 2000 Display driver, Version 174.16 NV4_MINI.SYS        6.14.11.7416        NVIDIA Compatible Windows 2000 Miniport Driver, Version 174.16 NV4_DISP.DLL        6.14.11.7416        NVIDIA Compatible Windows 2000 Display driver, Version 174.16 nvGameS.dll        6.14.11.7416        NVIDIA 3D Settings Server     Core at 650MhzMemory at 900MHzRunning the game at 1920x1200 in VHQL with shadows off solo, dropping to balanced and lowering spells per char to 1 for full raid  x4 Hope this helpsMelrakki

[Openedge]

I wanted to note here that some discussion is going on about the motherboards being used with these cards.If the motherboard is older and uses a PCI-E 1.0 spec, there could be some oddities.The 9600GT uses the 2.0 spec.<a href="http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=31&threadid=2158285" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Discussion</a>Please note...there is not suppose to be an issue, but a rare occurrence could show itself in this type of setup.How old is the motherboard? What type, model, etc.Thanks

[Melrakki]

I am using Gigabyte GA-MA770-DS3 and that one is PCI-E 2.0 <a href="http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2722" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.giga-byte.com/Products/M...?ProductID=2722</a>

[Pravius]

My board supports 2.0 for sure. I came across this article and it seems that the overclocked cards seem to have these issues, this is actually a pretty interesting article for anyone who is interested in tech/video card stuff:<a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=2618748&postcount=1" target="_blank">http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.p...amp;postcount=1</a>EDIT: I am going to try to under clock my PCI-E bus in my bios when I get home tonight and see if this helps.

[Pravius]

Bringing this back to the top just got a new card this is still happening.  Thinking maybe a driver issue with certain games or something.  Anyone else having this issue.  Trying to gather some info on system specs and a common denominator.

[Robo13]

<p>I bought a BFG 9600 GT OC on Sunday.</p><p>I have crashed during raids like an hour of play. This happened in Emerald Halls on Sunday. Crashed 2 times.</p><p>I have also Crashed just logging in and standing in JW doing nothing and boom crash 10 - 30mins of being logged in to the game.</p><p>So I called BFG and talked to tech support. They told me to run 3DMark to see if my card will crash and to uninstall EQ2 and re-install. My card didn't crash at all but my score wasn't really high either. score = 6500</p><p>So I uninstall all drivers and EQ2. I go through all the long updates. I then log in and goto lava storm and put my settings on Extreme. My FPS was between 7 - 25. I harvested there in the lava fields for 1 1/2 hours.</p><p>I was then asked to be in a group in for CoA so I set my performance back to balanced. I port to Qeynos then caught the boat to KP.</p><p>I fly to the Fens. I get the post and goto Bathid Watch to look at the new recipes. On my ride there I crashed.</p><p>After this crash I install CoD4 demo. I played that for a few hours no crash.</p><p>I now have called BFG again. They have now recommended me to run a stress test on the card called Passmark.</p><p>They also recommended to wait for new drivers.</p><p>I am thinking this card can't relibly be used to play EQ2. My gut tells me there is a conflict with the game and the card. Like the game is requesting something  to be done and the card doesn't support the command. Then the card crashes.</p><p>BFG suspects that Sony will need to have an update for this card or future drivers from nvidia will fix the problem.</p><p>Yeah I am frustrated and I don't want to put my 7600GS back in my computer.. </p><p>BTW no logs are written when the video card seems to stop working.</p><p>My computer build is:</p><p>ASUS P5LD2 MB</p><p>AMI Bios - 1903</p><p>PentiumD 3GHz</p><p>2gig - DDR2 PC4200</p><p>ANTEC NEO 550 Power Supply</p>

[Pravius]

Ok I just returned that old card to the store and picked up a new EVGA SC Edition which is running at 675MHz.  This seems to be working now?  I ran EQ2 for about 4.5 hours last night and was successful.  Also played CoD4 for like 45 min and everything seemed to be ok.  So this might be a card issue...

[Robo13]

<p>Update on my BFG 9600GT OC.</p><p>I am now pretty confident that it isn't the card that is the problem. I ran a burn in test and had no issues. I then downloaded the demo for Crysis. I heard this game can can bring some of the best systems to their knees.. I ran the entire demo on High settings and played for 2 hours or so. It ran beautifully no problems what so ever.</p><p> I am now going to run EQ2 in High Quality mode one step under Balanced. I am still thinking there is some conflict with a setting the game has and the video card. Maybe something isn't truely backwards compatible. When I get a chance I'll try to post my DX info.</p><p>On a side note I even over clocked my cpu to 3.3Ghz and had no issues. </p><p>non overclocked 3DMark score = 6500</p><p>Overclocked 3DMark score = 7150</p><p>From what I can tell my scores are pretty good for being a Pentium D 3Ghz with PC4200 ram.</p>

[Rothgar]

Try cranking up the graphics settings and then completely disable the Flora option.  Some 8800 users have found that increases their performance.Send me a PM and let me know how it works out for you.