Test Copy: Open for play

[Kirstie]

<p>I'm updated this first post to reflect what the current status of our second test server is.</p><p>Later today Test Copy will be back to a PvE environment. Anyone who currently plays on a Live server and would like to check out the changes for GU47 and give some feedback can use the "/testcopy" command to have their characters copied (not moved) to the Test Copy server.</p><p>- K</p><p>Here is the original post in this thread so that history is maintained :) : </p><p>We've just re-opened the Test PvP server for everyone to create characters on.</p><p> To preemptively answer a few questions I know that will come up here is some info.</p><ul><li>Character copies from live to Test PvP are not currently turned on, but they will be returning either by the end of this week or early next week.</li><li>Character copies from Live servers will only be to Test PvP, not to Test and not off of Test PvP nor Test.</li><li>Test players should be able to make a copy to Test PvP if they'd like to try out the PvP changes.</li><li>Currently we have no plans to add buff bots to Test PvP.</li><li>All previous characters that were copied to Test PvP have been wiped.</li><li>There may be a wipe of all characters in the future of Test PvP but we don't have a planned date for this.</li><li>Characters created on Test PvP count towards your total allowed characters in the Test environment along with any characters you have on Test.</li><li>Test PvP is currently running the same version of EQII as the Test server, but under the PvP Ruleset.</li><li>Everything about Test PvP is subject to change.</li></ul><p>Have fun,</p><p> Kirstie</p>

[Dracot]

Why bother.....you didn't fix the summoner classes to be viable in t7-t8 pvp, easier to jsut cancel the account and stop fueling your salaries. 

[Kalyai]

<p>so wheres the update on the information about what you are doing about the shrink removal on pvp servers?  Kirstie I have sent you multiple PMs on the forum, and have received no response, just like I have received no response from any dev or any helpful response from the rest of your support staff.</p><p>Are you going to give new vet rewards? add a new proc to the bristlebane cloak? allow us to send our LON cloaks back to LON?</p><p>Inquiring minds want to know.. please tell us something Kirstie and not try to sweep this under the carpet like everything else you guys try to hide.</p>

[Raidyen]

<p>And people wonder why dev's dont like to deal with the pvp servers.  Just see above.</p><p>Glad you all opened up test again.  Its a good sign that something is going to eventaully be done about T8 pvp balance.</p><p>Shrink removal, lol.</p>

[Kirstie]

<p>I have no information about shrink on PvP servers.</p><p>I'm not hiding any information on shrink, nor am I attempting to minimize the problems this is causing you.  I just sincerely don't have that info <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p> - K</p>

[Tyndaleon]

<cite>Kirstie wrote:</cite><blockquote>There may be a <u><i><b>whip</b></i></u> of all characters in the future of Test PvP but we don't have a planned date for this.</blockquote><img src="http://wraithsq.com/comlink/Smileys/classic/freak.gif" alt="" border="0" />So, uh, hey Kirstie.....if that happens, will you be decked out in studded leather for the occasion as well?  Enquiring minds wanna know. *g*(Sorry....couldn't resist, but you did leave the door wide open on that one. *smirk*)

[Kirstie]

<p>Today is not my day...  <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Tyndaleon]

<cite>Kirstie wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Today is not my day...  <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p></blockquote>Hehe it's quite alright, we all make typos sometimes.   That one however was just waaaay too good to just let slide. *g*

[Novusod]

<cite>Kirstie wrote:</cite><blockquote><ul><li>Test players should be able to make a copy to Test PvP if they'd like to try out the PvP changes.</li></ul><p>Have fun,</p><p> Kirstie</p></blockquote>What is the command to do this?

[Spyderbite]

Thank you very much for re-opening the Test PvP server again, Kirstie! Now us fanbois have ammunition when somebody claims that the development team messed up. *Gets the "Did <b>you</b> help test out the new system on the Test server?!" rubber stamp all inked up.*

[Quinath]

<cite>Novusod wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kirstie wrote:</cite><blockquote><ul><li>Test players should be able to make a copy to Test PvP if they'd like to try out the PvP changes.</li></ul><p>Have fun,</p><p> Kirstie</p></blockquote>What is the command to do this?</blockquote>/testcopy add

[Kalyai]

<cite>Kirstie wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have no information about shrink on PvP servers.</p><p>I'm not hiding any information on shrink, nor am I attempting to minimize the problems this is causing you.  I just sincerely don't have that info <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/136dd33cba83140c7ce38db096d05aed.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p> - K</p></blockquote><p>I would think that as the associate producer you would be able to find out what might be done to rectify this situation.  Everyone that I know that has attempted to post on the forums or submit help tickets or contact a dev has either had their support ticket closed, their posts removed, or their accounts banned on the forums.</p><p>It would seem that no one has information on this, and that is the problem.</p><p>I hope you guys realize that people actually spent $$ to buy boosters to get the LON cloaks for the purpose of shrinking themselves, and you guys have removed that ability with no reimbursement to your customers.  </p><p>All we are asking is that you do something about that, let us return these cloaks to LON, and give us new vet rewards for the moppet illusion that does not shrink anymore.</p><p>As to the poster that this issue doesnt concern, I am happy you don't have an issue with this, but I wouldnt be so negative if this wasnt the first even remotely postive response that has been given on this issue since the update.  Actually, let me rephrase.... I wouldnt be so negative if this wasnt the ONLY response given on this issue since the update.</p>

[Kirstie]

<p>I understand the shrink problem but please don't turn this thread into a flame on shrinks.</p><p>I've read all your PMs and your posts here and they have been seen but as with so many things because we know about it doesn't mean we can make everyone happy immediately.</p><p>So lets please leave it at "I hear ya" and any more diminuitive posts about me or shrinking will be shrunk to unreadable sizes.  I really want this thread to be about getting people who want to, onto the Test PvP server.</p><p>If you have any burning or shrinking feedback on already existing PvP stuff please use the /feedback or /bug command on the Test PvP server or keep it in the PvP forums.</p><p>- Kirstie</p>

[Poison-X]

<p>Yeah the servers up and all but you didn't actually turn on pvp</p><p>no pvp merchants..</p><p>/recent unknown command</p><p>/pvp unknown command</p>

[Kirstie]

<p>That is really embarassing.I'm fixing that right now.- K</p><p>Edit:  Fixed!  Please go kill things <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Dracot]

<p>again we are already seeing many posts about summoners and non manashield able mage class concerned with the new archtype writ system, care to explain what you intend to do to make our game playable? You sat and read threads from the billion melee and scouts and changed to meet their whines about the class specific but that was the only way utuility classes were getting tokens.  In 3 months I aquired 40 tokens.  In 1 day 4 scouts i know aquired 40+.  Thanks for nothing.  Necromancers have zero pvp abiltiity in a world where fast dps is king.  Our pets don't bother coming to the fights still cause they are still lagging way behind and you've been informed of this since launch, fixing the speed was a step in the right direction.  Now place the pathing on same system as the diety pets and we might have a start in the right direction of pet control.  Meanwhile with resists as they currently are landing a spell is next to impossible.  Dot based dmg needs time to tick so when the spell does land it creates dmg, meanwhile right now we die in under 5 seconds no matter how many AA what gear we have.  Lifetaps crit around 1k at lvl 80, creating maybe 600 hp back to the caster....meanwhile we're taking 2k autoattacks from any melee class. Wheres the balance in this?  Now you make this archtype version of the writ system.  Do you hve a slight clue what this means now?   Do you realize necros, conjies, illy's and coercers will be hunted down like dogs all day in day out cause we are so easy to kill?  Do you realize how frustrating it is to have hope that finally the game is getting on track and then when we see the thousands of whines froms couts you change it all bck in their favor?</p><p>Seriously Kirstie, what does it take to influence change in the favor of the classes you people just completely screwed over again?  Do we not pay the same rates every month?  Why do we get to suffer for playing the classes we like?  Does it feel good to know the pvp system you've created causes frustration in the people who without you wouldnt have a successful title?  I'm at a loss of words for the angst im feeling atm for the lack of respect gained by the devs towards the lesser classes in eq2 pvp.</p><p>I just don't get how you can expect this to make anyone happy who plays a clas that does make up a good portion of the population.  Or shall I say the mages you have made that aren't able to even bother playing the game anymore.</p>

[Derang]

Finally Test PVP I wont be able to get off this once test copy is up, my god how long I have been waiting for this day, thanks!

[Kurokage]

<cite>Dracot72 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>again we are already seeing many posts about summoners and non manashield able mage class concerned with the new archtype writ system, care to explain what you intend to do to make our game playable? You sat and read threads from the billion melee and scouts and changed to meet their whines about the class specific but that was the only way utuility classes were getting tokens.  In 3 months I aquired 40 tokens.  In 1 day 4 scouts i know aquired 40+.  Thanks for nothing.  Necromancers have zero pvp abiltiity in a world where fast dps is king.  Our pets don't bother coming to the fights still cause they are still lagging way behind and you've been informed of this since launch, fixing the speed was a step in the right direction.  Now place the pathing on same system as the diety pets and we might have a start in the right direction of pet control.  Meanwhile with resists as they currently are landing a spell is next to impossible.  Dot based dmg needs time to tick so when the spell does land it creates dmg, meanwhile right now we die in under 5 seconds no matter how many AA what gear we have.  Lifetaps crit around 1k at lvl 80, creating maybe 600 hp back to the caster....meanwhile we're taking 2k autoattacks from any melee class. Wheres the balance in this?  Now you make this archtype version of the writ system.  Do you hve a slight clue what this means now?   Do you realize necros, conjies, illy's and coercers will be hunted down like dogs all day in day out cause we are so easy to kill?  Do you realize how frustrating it is to have hope that finally the game is getting on track and then when we see the thousands of whines froms couts you change it all bck in their favor?</p><p>Seriously Kirstie, what does it take to influence change in the favor of the classes you people just completely screwed over again?  Do we not pay the same rates every month?  Why do we get to suffer for playing the classes we like?  Does it feel good to know the pvp system you've created causes frustration in the people who without you wouldnt have a successful title?  I'm at a loss of words for the angst im feeling atm for the lack of respect gained by the devs towards the lesser classes in eq2 pvp.</p><p>I just don't get how you can expect this to make anyone happy who plays a clas that does make up a good portion of the population.  Or shall I say the mages you have made that aren't able to even bother playing the game anymore.</p></blockquote>That's an awful lot of words just to say your unhappy with your class. Everyone that loses is gonna whine, right now you have the baton. It either sounds like you're unhappy with your choice of a mage, or more likely you're jealous of scouts (3 posts complaining about them?). Either way just mention it once, trust that enough other people will mention it, and play another toon until they fix it. My monk was Chuck Norris before they capped avoidance, now he's Chris Farley from Beverly Hills Ninja. I still play him because I like his style. If the rest of the server skyrockets without me, who cares?

[MuliganVanJurai]

<p>There are greater things to look at than have been listed in this post.  However, I think this is unfair to start throwing darts when they just opened the Test  PVP back up.  Let's at least give them a chance to begin working on some items to see what direction they intend to go.  </p><p>Believe me, i'm at the end of my patience with a few items but it appears as if they are going to start working on something with this move.  I'm curious to see what...</p>

[Zexxii]

can you please make a dude that will "poof" us to exile by hailing him or w/e, so we don't have to do the quests?

[Orthureon]

<p>I am glad to see the Test PVP server back up. However, by not putting in the buff bot you are starving yourself of the much needed population to actually test the new T8 PVP balance. I for one would not take the time to level up a toon knowing it would eventually get erased. As it stands there are not that many T8 players in PVP. My highest level toon is only 41. If I had a T8 toon I would be one of probably many that would help test things, in an unbiased fashion. That is where the buff bot comes into play.</p><p>Also, asking a person that plays on a non-pvp server to copy their toon over to test things is silly. They do not know how to PVP essentially, well atleast not aswell as a PVP vet would. By that means you could possibly get skewed results.</p>

[Aeadiin]

<cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I am glad to see the Test PVP server back up. However, by not putting in the buff bot you are starving yourself of the much needed population to actually test the new T8 PVP balance. I for one would not take the time to level up a toon knowing it would eventually get erased. As it stands there are not that many T8 players in PVP. My highest level toon is only 41. If I had a T8 toon I would be one of probably many that would help test things, in an unbiased fashion. That is where the buff bot comes into play.</p><p>Also, asking a person that plays on a non-pvp server to copy their toon over to test things is silly. They do not know how to PVP essentially, well atleast not aswell as a PVP vet would. By that means you could possibly get skewed results.</p></blockquote>It's a way to get non-pvp players to give pvp a chance, as well as to try to entice the many players who left the pvp servers back.  Not to mention the amounts of characters on the pve servers vastly outnumbers the pvp servers at all tiers, and gear levels.  It allows the test pvp server to build the population that it needs without the artificial buffing of characters, which skews results quit a bit itself.There is a huge difference in a pvp player of low/mid levels and one at the end game tiers.  I'm not talking skill levels here, I'm talking about how the game and classes change dramatically.

[Spyderbite]

<cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Also, asking a person that plays on a non-pvp server to copy their toon over to test things is silly. They do not know how to PVP essentially, well atleast not aswell as a PVP vet would. By that means you could possibly get skewed results.</p></blockquote>I agree. I think that copies from Non-PvP servers should be prohibited. Engaging in PvP with somebody suited up in their easy-mode armor and equipment is hardly a reliable way to gauge the PvP system.

[Dracot]

<cite>shioki wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Dracot72 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>again we are already seeing many posts about summoners and non manashield able mage class concerned with the new archtype writ system, care to explain what you intend to do to make our game playable? You sat and read threads from the billion melee and scouts and changed to meet their whines about the class specific but that was the only way utuility classes were getting tokens.  In 3 months I aquired 40 tokens.  In 1 day 4 scouts i know aquired 40+.  Thanks for nothing.  Necromancers have zero pvp abiltiity in a world where fast dps is king.  Our pets don't bother coming to the fights still cause they are still lagging way behind and you've been informed of this since launch, fixing the speed was a step in the right direction.  Now place the pathing on same system as the diety pets and we might have a start in the right direction of pet control.  Meanwhile with resists as they currently are landing a spell is next to impossible.  Dot based dmg needs time to tick so when the spell does land it creates dmg, meanwhile right now we die in under 5 seconds no matter how many AA what gear we have.  Lifetaps crit around 1k at lvl 80, creating maybe 600 hp back to the caster....meanwhile we're taking 2k autoattacks from any melee class. Wheres the balance in this?  Now you make this archtype version of the writ system.  Do you hve a slight clue what this means now?   Do you realize necros, conjies, illy's and coercers will be hunted down like dogs all day in day out cause we are so easy to kill?  Do you realize how frustrating it is to have hope that finally the game is getting on track and then when we see the thousands of whines froms couts you change it all bck in their favor?</p><p>Seriously Kirstie, what does it take to influence change in the favor of the classes you people just completely screwed over again?  Do we not pay the same rates every month?  Why do we get to suffer for playing the classes we like?  Does it feel good to know the pvp system you've created causes frustration in the people who without you wouldnt have a successful title?  I'm at a loss of words for the angst im feeling atm for the lack of respect gained by the devs towards the lesser classes in eq2 pvp.</p><p>I just don't get how you can expect this to make anyone happy who plays a clas that does make up a good portion of the population.  Or shall I say the mages you have made that aren't able to even bother playing the game anymore.</p></blockquote>That's an awful lot of words just to say your unhappy with your class. Everyone that loses is gonna whine, right now you have the baton. It either sounds like you're unhappy with your choice of a mage, or more likely you're jealous of scouts (3 posts complaining about them?). Either way just mention it once, trust that enough other people will mention it, and play another toon until they fix it. My monk was Chuck Norris before they capped avoidance, now he's Chris Farley from Beverly Hills Ninja. I still play him because I like his style. If the rest of the server skyrockets without me, who cares?</blockquote>Has nothing to do with scout envy or not liking my class sir, its COLD HARD FACTS and AGREEANCE from other classes that necromancers are the easiest thing to kill aside from shooting fish in a barrel.  3 posts? i'll run off 5,000,000 posts if I need to to get the devs to address the broken classes.    As for my class, I love the lore and class style in pve, problem is they forgot to implement my lore and class abilities to be effective in PVP. I WANt my pvp set which i wont see until 2 expansions from now because my class cannot kill a [Removed for Content] Q.  resists, lack of defense all play titles roles in this.

[Dracot]

<cite>Muligan@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There are greater things to look at than have been listed in this post.  However, I think this is unfair to start throwing darts when they just opened the Test  PVP back up.  Let's at least give them a chance to begin working on some items to see what direction they intend to go.  </p><p>Believe me, i'm at the end of my patience with a few items but it appears as if they are going to start working on something with this move.  I'm curious to see what...</p></blockquote><p>nothing in the update notes address anyhting that will be a benefit to the necromancer clas, I've been on test pvp b4, its the same drill, everyone logs on and ganks all day long and no real testing is accomplished. Get some dev to address these issues on the classes that will be slaughtered into being nothing but tradeskill bots that never leave a city again. Whats the reason to leave a city when all I'm going to see is the rez screen and a revive point? That is COLD HARD FACTS for my class and same with 3 other classes who don't get the benfits warlocks and wizards get.  NO DEFENSE, resists are  a mess, pet pathing is a mess, and even pets don't help.</p>

[Emolad]

Wtb a buffer!

[-Arctura-]

(( is Fluffy (beta buffer) up?

[Emolad]

Nope, hes not up. For some reason they didn't want us to have fun =P

[Novusod]

/testcopy add does not seem to be working. Been 48 hours since I typed it on my test server toon and 24 hours for live toon.

[Quinath]

<cite>Novusod wrote:</cite><blockquote>/testcopy add does not seem to be working. Been 48 hours since I typed it on my test server toon and 24 hours for live toon.</blockquote>Mine was copied in under 24 hours, hrmm...

[Emolad]

The test server really needs a frog...a fluffy!

[Anarissa]

Dumb question, but how do you get on to the TestPvP server? I have a Test server, but I'm going to assume it's not the same thing. I may be wrong, but could someone kindly answer this?

[mis-nomer]

<p>You get there the same way you get to regular test.  At character creation you will be able to select which server you wish to create the character on.</p><p> TestPvP has however been locked for several hours?</p>

[T'Pol]

I logged on pvp test serveral times and only had one pvp fight in all that time. The server is deserted so its safe to assume that pvp contest is untested <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[mis-nomer]

<p>You're right about the server being very quiet which is a shame as I think it offers people several things they have been asking for;</p><ul><li>PvP content can be tested before release, not just the PvP specific changes but also in conjunction with PvE changes to ensure there are no unforseen side effects.</li><li>Testers from both PvP and PvE environments have the opportunity to copy over live characters to test new content without the added overhead of having to level up again.</li><li>For those that believe PvP would be better without the Title/Fame system it offers a half way house to see if such a concept could indeed improve PvP.  Although the titles would still exist there are no 'Leaderboards' or 'Stat' based signatures based on Test characters thereby removing some of the more public avenues for displaying your 'prowess' at running away...</li></ul><p>All of this is of course just my opinion </p>

[Anarissa]

<cite>mis-nomer wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You get there the same way you get to regular test.  At character creation you will be able to select which server you wish to create the character on.</p><p> TestPvP has however been locked for several hours?</p></blockquote>Makes sense, now to actually ask the question I intended. I did a /testcopy add of one of my characters, I'm going to have to assume, since I don't see it yet, that it will immediately be put on TestPvP. Was that a little clearer?

[mis-nomer]

<p>When you launch the game via the test icon/shortcut any characters you have copied will show in your character list once the copy has been completed.  I believe that it can take upto 24 hours for the copy to be done though.</p><p>The server is open again btw.</p>

[Emolad]

Does anyone even play on test? Logged on my fper and was the only person on the freeport side online.

[T'Pol]

I log in sometimes but usually i am the only FP player online.

[Tamar]

<cite>Lemon@Innovation wrote:</cite><blockquote>I log in sometimes but usually i am the only FP player online.</blockquote>Until there is a Beta Buffer available you will not see enough people there to make this "worth it".Why?  Several reasons.  People already feel that they are "beta testing" on the live servers.  People want to test, not spend the time to level up for 8 tiers to have their toon "wiped".To those who state that people are just "ganking" and not testing.  Well honestly, look at the game on the live servers.  The current PvP ruleset and game mechanics are all about ganking or running.  So its being tested just as it will be used on live.  =PTurn on the Beta Buffer or just close the server.  I'm sure SoE has access to the fact that no one (exaggeration I know so please all you wordsmiths, don't write a 4 page essay on it please) is using the server.

[Vendolyn]

/testcopy will move your live characters over to Test PVP in lieu of a buff-bot.

[Emolad]

<cite>Vendolyn wrote:</cite><blockquote>/testcopy will move your live characters over to Test PVP in lieu of a buff-bot.</blockquote>That is true, but still most players do not have level 80 toons with the type of gear the buffer gives out. SOE putting a buff bot in=LOTs of people

[Emolad]

Anyone know when they plan on locking the server again? Not much of anything going on with it anymore..

[TemerNeziel]

When can I expect to be copied over to the test_pvp server? I /testcopy'd on Wednesday and still haven't seen my toon appear there

[Geothe]

<p>to echo what the previous posted said.I test copied on the 20th, and my character still isn't appearing on test-pvp</p><p> is the service down?</p>

[Kirstie]

<p>Hi All,</p><p>The copies are still happening and I'm seeing a fair number of people copying over each night.</p><p>First thing to try is to log into the TestPvP server with a different character to force a refresh of your Character List at the Character Select screen.</p><p>If that doesn't work you can PM me your source server and character name I can check on it.</p><p>- K</p>

[Kitsune286]

I found that I needed to create a character before the Character Select 'woke up' and showed my copied characters. *Shrug*Edit: Bah, where'd that post come from above me? =p

[Kirstie]

If anyone was copying over from Splitpaw and having problems, please try again.We fixed a small error that was causing problems with transfers from that server specifically.- K

[Brook]

Is Test PVP open for PVP now, or just for PVE play?

[Kirstie]

<cite>Brook wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is Test PVP open for PVP now, or just for PVE play?</blockquote>Right now its PvE

[Agaxal]

Couple of questions regarding /testcopy:I did my first /testcopy add on Saturday or so, and it finally showed up last night.  I already had lowbie 2 characters on Test, but the level 80 character I /testcopied only appeared there after I created a new character again.  This occured on both accounts I have.Anyways, the big thing I wanted to test was the VP set bonus for my class and compare it to a new robe I just got.  Unfortunately I got the robe *after* I did the testcopy.  So, I did a /testcopy remove and deleted the character.I did a /testcopy add again, came back several hours later, and still no character.  How long should we expect to take?  Not trying to be impatient, I just don't want to bother checking until its there, but I simply have no idea how long it normally takes.Second thing, I do most of my testing on the training wall in Kunzar Jungle.  When I ported there, everything was black.... couldn't see a thing.Is Kunzar Jungle currently "broken" on test?agressiv

[Brook]

Takes about 24 hours from what I noticed, and yea Kunzar Jungle does the same thing to me and I bugged it.

[Kitsune286]

I like how its been renamed Test Copy. =)

[Anaun]

It would be nice to try out some of these changes. How long is the Test Copy server going to be locked?

[Strange]

Finally, no body reply my post abt the server down. I was wondering am I the only who got LOCKED out since yesterday. Hope they let server open so I can test before it goes on live.

[Snowdonia]

How do I go about updating a copied character? Do I just delete the one that's on Test-Copy now and do another /testcopy add on Live?

[Saxen]

<p>are they still allowing character copies to test or test copy which ever ?</p><p>if so how long does it take for the to copy over</p><p>and for some reason im seeing 2 of my toons from the RoK beta on character select screen but they say server is off line and i cant delete them</p>

[Oakum]

<cite>Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>How do I go about updating a copied character? Do I just delete the one that's on Test-Copy now and do another /testcopy add on Live?</blockquote>Just do another test copy, they will add an x or xx ect on the end of the name if you copied it once.

[Chikkin]

<cite>Saxen@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>are they still allowing character copies to test or test copy which ever ?</p><p>if so how long does it take for the to copy over</p><p>and for some reason im seeing 2 of my toons from the RoK beta on character select screen but they say server is off line and i cant delete them</p></blockquote><p>Yes they are, I just did /testcopy add last night and it's already added today, not sure if that speed is normal for copies but that was fast!</p><p>as for seeing toons from ROK beta I think I had the same when I first came  to test server,  try to just create a new toon on test server, log it in, then log out and see if you can then delete old beta toons</p>

[Thogyth]

Are there plans to wipe this server like the Test Copy PVP was?

[Raveen]

The new voice chat system seems very nice. Super easy to set up. I like the chat channel style as well very clean. Would like to get more people to test lag in raid with chat if any.Sorry wrong forum lol its late

[Rekkis]

The only thing i would like to know is.. is the test copy server a temp server or a permament server. I would love to have a copy of my toon or toons on the test copy.

[Eveningsong]

"Test Copy" is not a permanent server, no.  You can copy characters over and over there (as long as you have room available (the Test set of servers have a 7 character slot limit that is separate from Live servers)) and any characters there could be subject to wipes as they test specific things.  "Test" on the other hand, is a permanent server with a small but close knit community, however you cannot copy there.

[GrunEQ]

<span style="font-size: small;font-family: comic sans ms,sand;">Is TestCopy still a PvP server?</span>

[Kitsune286]

Only when they need to test PvP stuff.

[Anastasie]

<p>No - testcopy is no longer PvP. That is why they changed the name to Test Copy.</p>

[Chikkin]

<p>question regarding copying  guild, which I thought might be useful to test guild halls</p><p>I was told  that when guild leader does /testcopy add it copies the toon along with the  guild, guild bank etc. </p><p>I convinced my guild leader to do that and she showed up on test copy today but guildless, what shall we do in this case? is that normal? do I have to hunt down a dev to get the guild attached to a toon?</p><p>edit:  the following day the issue seemed to be fixed, we have our guild on test copy now,  maybe it just took longer to copy guild and attach it to the toon? in any case thank you!</p>

[Jehanne]

I keep trying to testcopy one of my chars and all I get is that testcopy logs aren't available at this time.  Needless to say the char doesn't get copied either.  It sure would be nice if the original sticky post in this thread actually listed the command to copy (hint hint).

[Beckah]

I do believe the command is /testcopy add

[Jehanne]

Thank you very much.

[Mikkahl]

<p>Twice now I've hit a bug in Test Copy:</p><p>We have copied Guild A (guild leader and some members) to the Test Copy server.  When the guild A members arrive, they show up as unguilded, and can be invited to the guild on Test Copy.</p><p>However, if I copy a character who is a member of a different guild on Live (call it guild B) to Test Copy, they also show up as unguilded, but, when I try to invite the character to guild A, I get an error saying the character is "already in a guild".  Of course, since the character show up unguilded, there is no way to "Remove" them from their guild, because they are not in a guild!  So I'm stuck, and I have to delete that character (after waiting up to 20 hours for her to arrive on Test Copy), and try again.</p><p>The last time this happened, I had the character change to guild A before the /testcopy add, and then after the second /testcopy all was well (except for the day lost).  This time, I simply removed the character from her old guild, and did /testcopy add with her truely unguilded.  I will see tomorrow if that works OK.</p><p>(Edit: Yes, if you simply remove the character from guild B before the /testcopy add, then she shows up unguilded on Test Copy, and may be invited to Guild A.)</p><p>(Edit again:  It may be that the character was actually a guild leader of Guild B.  Most everybody in this alts guild is a leader!  Because of that, he was guilded, but there was an extra delay of 2 more days before his guild B "showed up" on Test Copy.  Copying a guild leader with his guild definitely takes at least 3 days altogether.)</p>

[Bonez005]

<cite>Eveningsong wrote:</cite><blockquote>"Test Copy" is not a permanent server, no.  You can copy characters over and over there (as long as you have room available (the Test set of servers have a 7 character slot limit that is separate from Live servers)) and any characters there could be subject to wipes as they test specific things.  "Test" on the other hand, is a permanent server with a small but close knit community, however you cannot copy there.</blockquote><p>I'm having a difficult time finding this Test Copy server. I'm only seeing Everquest 2 and Everquest 2 Test Server. Someone mentioned above that I would be able to select it at character creation? I hope there is another way because my slots are full and do not have the option to Create a Character... </p><p>I had already used the /testcopy add on the character I want copied, so can anyone help me get to it please?</p>

[SilkenKidden]

<cite>Sioned@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>No - testcopy is no longer PvP. That is why they changed the name to Test Copy.</p></blockquote><p>What does the name being <u>testcopy,</u> <u>Test Copy,</u> or <u>TestCopy</u> have to do with whether or not the server is PVP?  </p><p>I'm in the process of downloading the whole system, having clicked the Test Server button some time around midnight. It's now almost 6 a.m.  I'm here hoping to find what I have to do next to get a character up and running on the test server.  I would like it to be one of my current characters, but I'd also like to try a new one too and see the rapid exp curve in action.  Oh yes.  I am glad the test server isn't PVP now.  I don't think I'd last long in that environment. </p>

[SilkenKidden]

<cite>Sioned@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>No - testcopy is no longer PvP. That is why they changed the name to Test Copy.</p></blockquote><p>What does the name being <u>testcopy,</u> <u>Test Copy,</u> or <u>TestCopy</u> have to do with whether or not the server is PVP?  </p><p>I'm in the process of downloading the whole system, having clicked the Test Server button some time around midnight. It's now almost 6 a.m.  I'm here hoping to find what I have to do next to get a character up and running on the test server.  I would like it to be one of my current characters, but I'd also like to try a new one too and see the rapid exp curve in action.  Oh yes.  I am glad the test server isn't PVP now.  I don't think I'd last long in that environment. </p><p>From reading a few notes I think that what I need to do once the download is complete is log into character I want on the live server and type "/testcopy add" (without the quotes.)  Or should it be "/testcopy add Silken," Silken being my char.</p>

[Mikkahl]

<p>I'm sorry to say you could have done the Test Copy "download" in 30 minutes, but, for some reason, I didn't find a reference in this thread to the shortcut.  You go to the TestServer folder under your EverQuest II folder, and follow the instructions in the text file there.  This makes a copy on your harddrive (much faster), and lets you create a separate TestEQ2.exe icon on your desktop (with red background), that updates in about 30 minutes.</p><p>The command is /testcopy add (no character name), and it will add the character you enter this command under.  BUT, the copy does not occur until 15-19 hours later, so you need to leave the character in the state or position you wish it to appear under Test Copy for that long.</p><p>Then, when you run the TestEQ2.exe icon, ONLY your Test or Test Copy characters will appear in your Character Select screen.  I've never used the Test Server button on the regular Launchpad, and I would not recommend using it.</p>

[SilkenKidden]

<cite>Mikkahl wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I'm sorry to say you could have done the Test Copy "download" in 30 minutes, but, for some reason, I didn't find a reference in this thread to the shortcut.  You go to the TestServer folder under your EverQuest II folder, and follow the instructions in the text file there.  This makes a copy on your harddrive (much faster), and lets you create a separate TestEQ2.exe icon on your desktop (with red background), that updates in about 30 minutes.</p><p>The command is /testcopy add (no character name), and it will add the character you enter this command under.  BUT, the copy does not occur until 15-19 hours later, so you need to leave the character in the state or position you wish it to appear under Test Copy for that long.</p><p>Then, when you run the TestEQ2.exe icon, ONLY your Test or Test Copy characters will appear in your Character Select screen.  I've never used the Test Server button on the regular Launchpad, and I would not recommend using it.</p></blockquote><p>LOL.  The download is still running, but it will be done in a half hour.  </p><p>Someone should put a sticky with a link to the info you mention right here on the Test BB.  I'll go look at the notes now to see about making the icon.  Maybe I'll paste them into a note here.  </p><p>I am looking at my TestServer subdirectory now.  It contains another TestServer folder.  The exectuable and test file are in both the primary TestServer folder and in the subsidiary one. </p><ul><li>cache</li><li>helpfiles</li><li>.... </li><li>TestServer <ul><li>TestEQ2.exe modified 2/2/2005 716KB</li><li>TestServer 3K Text Dcoument modified 2/2/2005.</li><li>TestServer folder. <ul><li>TestEQ2.exe modified 1/1/2006 716KB</li><li>TestServer 3K Text Dcoument modified 1/1/2006.</li></ul></li></ul></li></ul><p>I'm not sure which TestEQ2.exe to point to with the test icon.  I think the second folder and the files dated 1/1/2006 are an error.  Which should be used? </p><p>Thank you. </p>

[Verky]

Hi, I did a /testcopy yesterday and my character has been copied over. I am a guild leader of a level 80 guild on live server and I heard if the guildleader did a /testcopy a level 80 guild would be created at the same time. Yet I am guildless on the /testcopy server. So is my husband, who shares guildleadership with me on Live.

[Mikkahl]

<cite>Haly@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hi, I did a /testcopy yesterday and my character has been copied over. I am a guild leader of a level 80 guild on live server and I heard if the guildleader did a /testcopy a level 80 guild would be created at the same time. Yet I am guildless on the /testcopy server. So is my husband, who shares guildleadership with me on Live.</blockquote>As I noted in a post above, you have to wait at least 2-3 more days for your guild to show up!  Yes, it's a pain! <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Dalden]

<cite>Mikkahl wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Haly@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>Hi, I did a /testcopy yesterday and my character has been copied over. I am a guild leader of a level 80 guild on live server and I heard if the guildleader did a /testcopy a level 80 guild would be created at the same time. Yet I am guildless on the /testcopy server. So is my husband, who shares guildleadership with me on Live.</blockquote>As I noted in a post above, you have to wait at least 2-3 more days for your guild to show up!  Yes, it's a pain! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote>Cool, thanks for that, must have missed your post <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. /whine I don't want to wait <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Spyderbite]

<cite>Dalden@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>Cool, thanks for that, must have missed your post <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. /whine I don't want to wait <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote>I'm guessing there's an influx of people copying toons over there right now cause I'm going on 24 hours in que since doing a /testcopy add of one of my characters. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Anordil]

<p>I have a quick question. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </p><p>When I /testcopy add a character, does his gear and money on hand copy over too?</p><p>Does it copy my current guild information over as well? <smiles> Sorry for the goofy questions, I just want to check some stuff on Test. ^_^</p>

[Mikkahl]

<p>Transfers: all the gear and money and status on you, your house and it's contents (and you are now the owner of everything in there), your house vault contents, your private bank contents.</p><p>Your shared bank contents do NOT copy.  </p><p>Any status gear on your or in your house you can sell to the city merchant to get more status.</p><p>The character copy takes 14-24 hours.  If you are a guild leader, your guild will copy (with its bank), but that takes another 2-3 days.</p>

[vochore]

i tryed to get my ranger copyed over 2 days ago and he is still not over on test...i even deleted 1 of my low level characters just incase i was at the max oper account.

[Spyderbite]

<cite>vochore wrote:</cite><blockquote>i tryed to get my ranger copyed over 2 days ago and he is still not over on test...i even deleted 1 of my low level characters just incase i was at the max oper account.</blockquote>Yup. Going on 2 days here too. Sent a petition to get a status update or find out if there was a problem with the copy process and received the reply.. "You need to contact Forums. He can help you with that".At least those outsourcers know how to make a guy smile. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Update: My first /testcopy add has processed.. probably due to the amount of people trying to copy because of the quests and and guildhalls, the eta for transfer is not currently 12-24 hours but more like 24-72 hours. Just an FYI for those who are thinking about procrastinating. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[SecReT]

I did a /testcopy add on Friday night and its Monday morning and still nothing. Can someone please give me an update ? Am I in the que or do I need to do it again ? Please some type of status update would be greatly appreciated.Oakmist_Nektulos

[Spyderbite]

<cite>SecReT wrote:</cite><blockquote>I did a /testcopy add on Friday night and its Monday morning and still nothing. Can someone please give me an update ? Am I in the que or do I need to do it again ? Please some type of status update would be greatly appreciated.Oakmist_Nektulos</blockquote>Mine took about 5 days.. my second /testcopy add took signifigantly shorter though for some reason. Expect at least 3-4 business days though.

[Mikkahl]

<p>I copied a bunch of characters over, and they were always there within 24 hours.   That was BEFORE GU49 went in to Test, though, and the traffic has increased considerably, I would imagine.   The character might show up in 14 hours, but it might take the full 24 for your house to appear.</p><p>If you copy a guild leader, all that is true, but the guild itself takes another 2-3 days to appear.</p>

[piccololin]

<p>My character (guild leader) has copied to test-copy for 5 days, but the guild did not appear until last night.</p><p>I could see the guild symble "< >" below my character's name, but there is no guild name inside.</p><p>Is there any process i need to do to make the guild copy? </p>

[Selene1212]

<p>Its been awhile since I played on Test but it was before there were any other "test" servers. Is it back to just a single test + Live servers now or are there a few. (ie test copy, test pvp, etc) Do I just install the standard test client on my pc and can I copy my level 80 character from Live to test and still have my original test characters on the same server as well?</p><p>Thanks in advance for you responses.</p>

[tiger911]

<p>WTB a test copy option that actually instantly copies over your character and don't have to wait days on in.</p><p>Thanks.</p>

[Selene1212]

<p>My copy only took a couple of days. (Unfortunately its not on the same test server as my other characters, as I had been hoping.)</p>

[tiger911]

<p>A couple of days for me is simply unacceptable for me in this day and age. All they do is click a button and it's copied.</p><p>Well, unless they are actually making a real life mini replica of me in clay, FED-EXing it overnight and then having an artist draw it into the test server.</p>

[Kordran]

<p><cite>Tyger@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>A couple of days for me is simply unacceptable for me in this day and age. All they do is click a button and it's copied.</p><p>Well, unless they are actually making a real life mini replica of me in clay, FED-EXing it overnight and then having an artist draw it into the test server.</p></blockquote><p>Don't be silly. They're transcribing each byte in hexadecimal from your character database records, using the debug command. Data entry takes time, you know.</p>

[stayx]

<p>I canot test it, "trying login server #1" every time...</p>

[Noaani]

<p>Thats because the Test_Copy server is currently down.</p>

[Ventisly]

<p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thats because the Test_Copy server is currently down.</p></blockquote><p>Or maybe it's been wiped since char copies have been quite buggy lately (i.e. couldn't log in)?  Hope I don't have to wait until tomorrow to check out the changes.</p>

[Noaani]

<p><cite>Gaktar@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thats because the Test_Copy server is currently down.</p></blockquote><p>Or maybe it's been wiped since char copies have been quite buggy lately (i.e. couldn't log in)?  Hope I don't have to wait until tomorrow to check out the changes.</p></blockquote><p>If you log to character select (the first thing you should do if you have ANY issues logging in to a character), you will see your characters still there, mostly.</p>

[Ventisly]

<p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Gaktar@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thats because the Test_Copy server is currently down.</p></blockquote><p>Or maybe it's been wiped since char copies have been quite buggy lately (i.e. couldn't log in)?  Hope I don't have to wait until tomorrow to check out the changes.</p></blockquote><p>If you log to character select (the first thing you should do if you have ANY issues logging in to a character), you will see your characters still there, mostly.</p></blockquote><p>Nay, all my testcopy toons have been disappearing one by one while my test toons are fine.  Could still just be the servers are down and still being worked on but it's not looking like normal server downtime symptoms.</p>

[DngrMou]

<p>Test is currently crashing my computer, at the char select screen.  Anyone else having issues?</p>

[feldon30]

I can't get in. I neeeeeeeeeed Lavastorm revamp. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[stayx]

<p>Ok now i can play with a completely new toon but all my copied toons doesnt work...</p><p>Its sad with a new toon lvl1 i cant test lavastorm <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[FinalHolmes]

<p><cite>stayx wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ok now i can play with a completely new toon but all my copied toons doesnt work...</p><p>Its sad with a new toon lvl1 i cant test lavastorm <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Same here, my character's copied over do not show up.And when will we see the new buffbot? the dev Timetravelling had mentioned he should be going in with the new update.</p>

[feldon30]

I'm still getting Offline server (DOWN).

[Noaani]

<p>My toons are all still there, but if others are disappearing it makes me wonder if they are flagging test_copy to go back to test_PvP again, since there is a non trivial PvP change going in with GU#51.</p>

[Ethi]

<p>Last week I did a /testcopy on my character but as of yesterday I still don't have my character on the test server...  Anyone know how long this normally takes?</p>

[Shang]

<p>Details on a buff bot would be nice due to the time it seems to be taking to copy over characters.</p>

[Voraknor]

<p>I logged on to the Server today and they wiped out all items on the broker including everything I had for sale and my sales crates too.  Anyone else notice this?</p>

[lgarret]

<p>re:Voraknor:<span>I logged on to the Server today and they wiped out all items on the broker including everything I had for sale and my sales crates too.  Anyone else notice this?</span></p><p>I have same problem across 50 players on 6 accounts. Players were started from scratch on test copy.</p><p>Also found all guild banks have been wiped.</p><p>Was this on purpose or is this a bug that will be fixed?</p>

[Spyderbite]

<p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>My toons are all still there, but if others are disappearing it makes me wonder if they are flagging test_copy to go back to test_PvP again, since there is a non trivial PvP change going in with GU#51.</p></blockquote><p>That's possible. Both my test copy toons are still there. Both copied from Venekor. But, then again, I would think they would have wiped all characters that were copied from PvE in one swipe if that was the case in order to avoid any confusion. But, I don't really know how these things work. But, I do hope PvP is enabled in some sort of fashion so that we can test out the new changes.</p>

[maddawg138]

<p><cite>Voraknor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I logged on to the Server today and they wiped out all items on the broker including everything I had for sale and my sales crates too.  Anyone else notice this?</p></blockquote><p>yup i noticed that too....the guild banks were wiped as well.</p>

[DngrMou]

<p>I'm still crashing at character select screen, (test only...live is fine).</p><p>I've tried the usual, (full file scan, deleting 3rd part UI stuff, (profit UI, and EQ2 Maps), disabled anti virus software, firewall, and shut down everything else running on my computer).  The only thing that came up...was a brief message before computer locked up, stating that it could not run at the requested resolution, (and said optimum was 1440X900X60Hz...which is what I run live at).  Since I can't get to the options screen to change it there, is there a way to specify a resolution...something that will overide everything else, in the eq2.ini file?</p>

[cheetahinoz]

<p>just curious, been on test for eons and my char really needs updating on test server. is it just /test copy for update?</p>

[feldon30]

I went to Test Copy today, my toon had been copied over. I went to the Buff guy and got all T2 void shard armor and some nice jewelry (a few better than mine), put it all on, spent my 200 AA points, talked to the guy to port me to the x2 raid zone. So this is all very good and glad that someone spent a lot of time picking out appropriate jewelry and items for all 24 classes and putting in the T2 void shard armor. Main drawback? Test Copy currently has NO public chat channels! Makes it tough to organize a raid... <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Voraknor]

<p>Goto test.test or test.trade to organize your groups</p>