Do you guys like the epic special effect?

[hisawat]

Do you guys like the special effect on the bruiser epic??I am not sure if I like it or not.Damage plus threat increase from front.Just damage from back.aITEM -304656655 2064600847:Gorynn's Fist/a

[SidneyLePoilu]

I find it not bad except for that ugly piece of crap scorpion tail ... what do they smoke or snort at SOE? i mean to make a weapon that ugly and go through with it you have to be stupid or stoned

[CorpseGoddess]

I've started calling it the "My Little Scorpion" weapon.Dumbest looking thing ever.

[ganjookie]

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[Splor]

The OP isnt talking about the looks of the weapon guys. Dur. Until i see the mythical version I won't say anything, but our fabled version sucks compared to the monks fabled version. I'd kill for theirs.

[hisawat]

<cite>Splorch wrote:</cite><blockquote>The OP isnt talking about the looks of the weapon guys. Dur. Until i see the mythical version I won't say anything, but our fabled version sucks compared to the monks fabled version. I'd kill for theirs.</blockquote>Exactly.  I am not talking about the looks.Our fabled version procs threat + damage when we attack mobs from front and  just damage when we attack from  behind.  The proc damage from behind is the exactly same damage as monk's fabled proc, but the monk's proc increases 8% melee double attack besides the damage.<span class="ew-effectdesc">Bruiser procWhen Equipped: <ul><li> On a successful melee attack this spell has a chance to cast Strike of Anger on target of attack. This effect will trigger an average of 1.8 times per minute. <ul><li> Inflicts 428 - 641 crushing damage on target </li><li> Attacker must be behind or flanking </li></ul> </li><li> On a successful melee attack this spell has a chance to cast Strike of Anger on target of attack. This effect will trigger an average of 1.8 times per minute. <ul><li> Increases Threat to target by 1,533 </li><li> Inflicts 360 - 540 Crushing damage on target </li><li> Attacker must be in front of </li></ul> </li><li> This spell can not be modified except by direct means </li></ul></span>Monk proc<span class="ew-effectdesc">When Equipped: <ul><li>On a successful melee attack this spell has a chance to cast Serene Strike on target of attack. Last for 12.0 seconds. This effect will trigger an average 1.8 times per second. <ul><li>Inflicts 428-641 crushing damage on target </li><li>Caster will Double Attack on 8.0% of melee attcks </li></ul> </li><li>This spell can not be modified except by direct means </li></ul></span>At least, the bruiser group version epic should proc something besides damage when we attack from behind.

[Owa]

<span style="font-size: medium;font-family: terminal,monaco;">Theirs procs crits too whereas ours procs DA. Monk version is better imo. Having said that, I quite like the look. There's nothing else like it.<img src="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb148/vysey/EQ2_000041.jpg" alt="" border="0" /></span>

[Owa]

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[Diimitri]

<cite>Owain wrote:</cite><blockquote><span style="font-size: medium;font-family: terminal,monaco;">Theirs procs crits too whereas ours procs DA. Monk version is better imo. Having said that, I quite like the look. There's nothing else like it.<img src="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb148/vysey/EQ2_000041.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="1024" height="751" /></span></blockquote>owain if you could..put some more pics of the epic on here. like without movement i still have not seen it

[Owa]

<img src="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb148/vysey/EQ2_000030.jpg" alt="" border="0" /><img src="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb148/vysey/EQ2_000033.jpg" alt="" border="0" /><img src="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb148/vysey/EQ2_000037.jpg" alt="" border="0" /><img src="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb148/vysey/EQ2_000035.jpg" alt="" border="0" /><img src="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb148/vysey/EQ2_0000316.jpg" alt="" border="0" /><span style="font-size: medium;font-family: times new roman,times;">There you go mate.</span>

[ganjookie]

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[Raznor2]

<p>Wasn't that enamored with the look of it before but once I started swinging it around I liked it quite a bit.  The scorpion tail looks akward at first but the way it coils and flows with your movements as your fighting is fantastic.</p><p>~Raithan</p>

[CHIMPNOODLE.]

Those are the first pics I've seen of it "live"...very interesting looking wep to say the least.

[Heart-a-gram888]

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[Heart-a-gram888]

<cite>Heart-a-gram888 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kithian@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote>I know its posted elsewhere, but the bruiser epic isn't made to "fix" us. It does help us with tanking, which is what we needed the most help with, and keeping aggro. If you want DPS, what would you pair this with in your off hand to help out with your damage? Sure I'd like it to add + hit% group/raid wide, or something that helps the group. Maybe even a +riposte%. Iin all reality, Bruisers are selfish sons o' [Ninja'd by Faarwolf]. We don't have many group buffs, everything is centered around ME ME ME.</blockquote>I would say the Soulfire Kama in offhand (at least thats the combo Im shooting for right now). Also although we cant hold aggro as well as a plate tank class, the main issue is the lack of AC which is compensated in the Monk Mythical. I saw that and I promise you I almost quit. I doesnt matter how well you hold aggro if thing knock ya down in a few hits. I still dont think SOE is using their heads when it comes to this class. I like the +avoidance the Bruiser epic gives, but it should have been a lot more than 10 tbh.</blockquote>

[Bobbette]

<cite>Streppoch@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>I've started calling it the "My Little Scorpion" weapon.Dumbest looking thing ever.</blockquote>I happen to be the only female-player fighter in my guild atm.  After I got the weapon, I joked that now I had a p***s so I could be like all the rest of the guys.That's what I call it.

[Owa]

<span style="font-size: medium;font-family: times new roman,times;">Suggest do more research on p***ses and/or take boyfriend/husband to clinic ASAP.</span>

[CorpseGoddess]

<cite>Velda@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Streppoch@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>I've started calling it the "My Little Scorpion" weapon.Dumbest looking thing ever.</blockquote>I happen to be the only female-player fighter in my guild atm.  After I got the weapon, I joked that now I had a p***s so I could be like all the rest of the guys.That's what I call it.</blockquote>Yeah, but being the only female-player fighter in my circle (and one of the few on Guk, as far as I can tell), I was *proud* of the fact that I didn't have to "whip it out" to kick some [Removed for Content].  Personally I'm jealous as hell of the Bite of the Wolf weapon---now THAT is sweet looking.

[Pumancat]

<cite>Kithian@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote>Still the most original design out there weather you like it or not.Me I dig it.  I'm gonna macro Sonic Punch with /say GET OVER HERE!</blockquote><p>Probably be better to do it with drag.</p><p>Anarcheru</p>

[Kram337]

I was lookin forward to coming back to eq2 and working on my epic. But since I seen the bruiser one I changed my mind. The effect on it is fine, I dont mind that part. But the graphic is horrible.I did login and see the fabled version in-game. Wow, I know SOE is trying to be original here, and I generally adore their art team's work. But this thing looks like they're trying to be "too" original. I'd sort of be embarrassed to use it =/

[ganjookie]

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[Gungo]

<cite>hisawat wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Splorch wrote:</cite><blockquote>The OP isnt talking about the looks of the weapon guys. Dur. Until i see the mythical version I won't say anything, but our fabled version sucks compared to the monks fabled version. I'd kill for theirs.</blockquote>Exactly.  I am not talking about the looks.Our fabled version procs threat + damage when we attack mobs from front and  just damage when we attack from  behind.  The proc damage from behind is the exactly same damage as monk's fabled proc, but the monk's proc increases 8% melee double attack besides the damage.<span class="ew-effectdesc">Bruiser procWhen Equipped: <ul><li>On a successful melee attack this spell has a chance to cast Strike of Anger on target of attack. This effect will trigger an average of 1.8 times per minute. <ul><li>Inflicts 428 - 641 crushing damage on target </li><li>Attacker must be behind or flanking </li></ul></li><li>On a successful melee attack this spell has a chance to cast Strike of Anger on target of attack. This effect will trigger an average of 1.8 times per minute. <ul><li>Increases Threat to target by 1,533 </li><li>Inflicts 360 - 540 Crushing damage on target </li><li>Attacker must be in front of </li></ul></li><li>This spell can not be modified except by direct means </li></ul></span>Monk proc<span class="ew-effectdesc">When Equipped: <ul><li>On a successful melee attack this spell has a chance to cast Serene Strike on target of attack. Last for 12.0 seconds. This effect will trigger an average 1.8 times per second. <ul><li>Inflicts 428-641 crushing damage on target </li><li>Caster will Double Attack on 8.0% of melee attcks </li></ul></li><li>This spell can not be modified except by direct means </li></ul></span>At least, the bruiser group version epic should proc something besides damage when we attack from behind.</blockquote><p>The main issue with the epic is single target agro is not a real issue for us and is largely unnneeded. Also the lack of any significant dps upgrade makes this weapon a good situational weapon but likely will be replaced alot sooner then the majorty of epics. Most likely early within the next expansion. it leaves the weapon itself as largely underwhelming and could use a simple tweak to improve its dps potential.  The following is my idea of the change to the proc to balance it with the monk proc but still hold its flavor and be different. This is not a comparison to the monk epic proc but a benchmark to hold it against to not overpower the proc. Changes  highlighted in <span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>RED</b></span></p><p>Bruiser procWhen Equipped: </p><ul><li>On a successful melee attack this spell has a chance to cast Strike of Anger on target of attack. This effect will trigger an average of 1.8 times per minute. </li><ul><li>Inflicts <span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>856 - 1282</b></span> crushing damage on targe</li><li>Attacker must be behind or flanking </li></ul><li>On a successful melee attack this spell has a chance to cast Strike of Anger on target of attack. This effect will trigger an average of 1.8 times per minute. <ul><li>Increases Threat to target <b><span style="color: #ff0000;">e</span><span style="color: #ff0000;">n</span><span style="color: #ff0000;">counter</span></b> by 1,533 </li><li>Inflicts <span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>428 - 641</b></span> Crushing damage on target </li><li>Attacker must be in front of </li></ul></li><li>This spell can not be modified except by direct means </li></ul><p>This change leaves the frontal proc the same for both brawler while the monk recieves the same DA % and we receive a encounter taunt as well as increasing the rear proc to be something less insulting. While i would have liked a more creative benefit like 10% to all combat art/spell damage other then a bigger rear proc. A better rear proc will do. The same change should be done to the mythical make the taunt proc into an encounter based taunt and increase the damage proc accordingly .</p><p>The issue for anyone at soe reading this is that the damage proc and the DA are the only dps increases this weapon has. So if the damage proc is relatively weak the dps potential is relatively weak. </p>

[Spaceweed]

<cite>Cathey@Storms wrote:</cite><blockquote>I find it not bad except for that ugly piece of crap scorpion tail ... what do they smoke or snort at SOE? i mean to make a weapon that ugly and go through with it you have to be stupid or stoned</blockquote>See my sig.Imo, this is the best looking Epic weapon in the game - and I play an Illusionist as my main.

[Quicksilver74]

<p>This may be an older thread, but I just wanted to say that as far as I'm concerned our epic is the most unique and absolutely most fantastic looking weapon this game has ever had.  </p><p>  I know we all have our own particular tastes....   but I love it.  The only thing that woudl be better would be nunchucks!   </p>

[Luyes]

I agree.  Love the look of the epic here.

[yzyh]

Wow so SoE made an epic looking worst then EQ1 Necro 1.0 epic.

[BChizzle]

Looks like u guys are dev fisting a squid.

[Vorham]

<p>not that im gonna play my bruiser anymore but [I cannot control my vocabulary] that weapon is pretty sick looking... /shrug</p><p>in pics anyway, maybe the animations are screwy or on crack  /shrug</p><p>and the necro duck stick from EQ1 was far worse... i had one.... quack quack...but just finishing that [I cannot control my vocabulary] quest made it worth it, even though it was [I cannot control my vocabulary] looking and was useless once you got the fast cast darkness in the 60s... /flashbacks</p><p>edit: as an aside its kinda funny how avatar looks that indicate "uberness" can influence things... i remember when the "dual GBS" look in EQ1 was [Removed for Content] and people were payin fat cash for GBS to go in main hand with a drachnid orb...or later on raiding the planes being a cleric or caster with the dual xegony/plane of time wand look... eh... </p><p> id say a flowing scorpion tail on a weapon stands out pretty [Removed for Content] well</p>

[Taldier]

Personally I kinda like the basic design of it.  The problem is that there are no realistic physics or even collision on the whip tail.  At the end of a fight it often appears to stand up straight by itself, and during the fight it often shakes around and goes through my own arm or body.  Would be nice to be able to use it without goring myself to death.

[Owa]

<span style="font-size: medium;font-family: times new roman,times;">I feel the same way about my [Removed for Content].</span>

[Lildebbie]

<cite>Owain wrote:</cite><blockquote><img src="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb148/vysey/EQ2_000030.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="771" height="761" /><img src="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb148/vysey/EQ2_000033.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="668" height="720" /><img src="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb148/vysey/EQ2_000037.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="458" height="663" /><img src="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb148/vysey/EQ2_000035.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="824" height="360" /><img src="http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb148/vysey/EQ2_0000316.jpg" border="0" alt="" width="908" height="852" /><span style="font-size: medium;font-family: times new roman,times;">There you go mate.</span></blockquote> call me crazy, but i think this wep looks baddazz.  i can't wait to get one.

[Mos]

<p>The more I see it in action, the more I like it.  <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>I just wish there was some way to display it on your hip while not engaged in combat.</p>