epic?? Just doesn't seem that epic.

[pebyr]

Well after seeing the non raid version, I have to ask a couple of things.  1) Where is the +subjugation?  2) The +4 spell crit is nice, but even with the nifty power reduction and casting timers, it lacks a damage proc of any kind.  Regardless of our utility, there are still complaints on our dps.    In light of that, I'd probably use something like the staff of the impaler over the non raid version of our epic.  Not only is it a vastly easier quest line, it has comparable stats and a damage proc.I would like to see +subjugation on it, and some sort of damage proc.  This is supposed to be our epic afterall.  it should be something we want to use over anything else.  Here's hoping the raid version is something to ooh and aw over.

[Taharn]

<p>It's totally underwhelming.</p><p>I'd rather ordination than subjugation to be honest though, since it helps us land our reactives.</p><p>/sarcasm on </p><p> But yeah... 5% reuse times, so useful (I cant already spam my spells)... 10% group reduction on SPELLS (dont even know if CAs come into this) ...totally useful ( I cant already manage my group's power..they run out ALL the time)</p><p> /sarcasm off</p><p> Fingers crossed for the raid version.</p>

[Lleinen]

<cite>Vicante@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>/sarcasm on </p><p> But yeah... 5% reuse times, so useful (I cant already spam my spells)... 10% group reduction on SPELLS (dont even know if CAs come into this) ...totally useful ( I cant already manage my group's power..they run out ALL the time)</p><p> /sarcasm off</p><p> Fingers crossed for the raid version.</p></blockquote>BRILLIANT!

[iNDi]

<p>This wpn is a joke considering the fact that there are much better choices available which are easier to get...</p><p>Oh well let's hope for the raid version to give us some luv...</p>

[iceriven2]

anyone know what the clickie effect is?  i know the effects are a bit underwelming but what soes the second clickie effect do?

[Gwynet]

Lets you summon the NPC... that's all.Bleh.

[Aule]

<p><b>Subject:</b> epic?? Just doesn't seem that epic.</p><p>Brought to you by the makers of Posession and Puppetmaster</p>

[Signal9]

<cite>Aule@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><b>Subject:</b> epic?? Just doesn't seem that epic.</p><p>Brought to you by the makers of Posession and Puppetmaster</p></blockquote>Sadly true.

[Wrapye]

Not surprised at all.  To design an appropriate weapon requires understanding the class, which I can't believe any of the development team do.  A prominent coercer did suggest those effects, but later recanted.  I guess they took him seriously rather than analyzing the suggestion critically.

[chily]

<cite>pebyr wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well after seeing the non raid version, I have to ask a couple of things.  1) Where is the +subjugation?  2) The +4 spell crit is nice, but even with the nifty power reduction and casting timers, it lacks a damage proc of any kind.  Regardless of our utility, there are still complaints on our dps.    In light of that, I'd probably use something like the staff of the impaler over the non raid version of our epic.  Not only is it a vastly easier quest line, it has comparable stats and a damage proc.I would like to see +subjugation on it, and some sort of damage proc.  This is supposed to be our epic afterall.  it should be something we want to use over anything else.  Here's hoping the raid version is something to ooh and aw over.</blockquote>the porc looks really awfull yeah, but i don't miss the + sub on it really coz i don't know when i would use the + sub at raids anyway.At least the dmg rating looks ok for meleeing coercer =)

[ChodeNode1]

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