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Maergoth
02-02-2008, 03:40 AM
Any ideas? The name shows up in a few places..  I've not given it too much thought, but it looks and seems to be connected to Mistmoore in some way.Places with the name:Mistmyrian Soulcube - RoK raid item that dispels Venril Sathir's magical barrier.Armor of Mistmyr - Guardian armors around the hilt of Soulfire.Blade of Mistmyr - Used in the Sword of Destiny questHaven't seen it anywhere else I don't think.. any ideas would be dandy.

Cusashorn
02-02-2008, 03:57 AM
<p>*turns on the Vhalen Signal*</p><p>That is interesting. We could probably connect it with Mistmoore if that RoK item didn't have the name as well.</p>

Rainmare
02-02-2008, 06:17 AM
this thought just came to me. We know that Mayong is a vampire in a league all his own. unlike anything else on norrath. the SoD quest involved exploring paintings and items in Mistmoore castle. an elfish woman's portrait, and the book talk about lost loves.Mystmyrian Soulcube, in the possession of a Drachnid, trying to unlock it's secrets. the drachnids looking for the Chelsith stone under orders. (overheard conversations from listening crystals).Mystmyr sword/key, and Mystmyr statues in Mistmoore.Could it be, that Mayong Mistmoore's race may actually be Mystmyr? his elven experiments are called 'Myr'Dal'. Mayongs attempt to try and recreate his own race through experimentation on a different variety of elf, perhaps?Or..Mayong is Mystmyr. something like a soulcube sounds like a godly item, doesn't it. Mayong's sage alludes that he attained godhood, but gave it up. perhaps the elvish woman in the painting is the reason why he gave it up voluntarily. maybe the woman in the painting is Queen Thex?

shadowscale
02-02-2008, 07:54 AM
the painting is someone named Zane.

Cusashorn
02-02-2008, 12:47 PM
Zanne, actually :p

Maergoth
02-02-2008, 02:15 PM
I think the "Myr`Dal" bit of information is the most important piece of information we've got.. might I ask where that info is? <span class="postbody">"We could probably connect it with Mistmoore if that RoK item didn't have the name as well."Mistmoore has a good bit of ties with people in Kunark.. Don't forget the Drachnids <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span>A friend of mine was tossing around the idea of it being a special breed of vampires, "Pure bloods" perhaps.. like previously stated.Assuming Vampires work the same in EQ as everywhere else, which has plenty of evidence already..Tier 1 - Mayong, the start of the disease that is VampirismTier 2 - The few people Mayong attacked and bit personally, selected by hand.. Those people are the ones I'm thinking of. We've never ACTUALLY run into any information saying any of the vampires in his "council" were selected in that manner.. or any evidence of us seeing them at all.Tier 3 - There would be the vampires that Mayong's select few had bitten, most likely in a "raising an army" sense.. just grabbed who they could. From there, there would be the random attacks on villages, people walking at night.. spreading it from there, adding more people to that "Army".I think Vampires have tiers of purity.. and that second tier right below Mayong could be titled "Mistmyr" There was a Vampire Uprising during Everquest 1's "Lost Dungeons of Norrath". From what I saw, the vampires entitled "Pureblood" didn't get along with "Vampire_fighter_002" that doesn't deserve a place in the eyes of Mistmoore. They had some battles, and some other crap happened.. Castle Mistmoore was completely run through by these purebloods at one point in time. Will look into that as soon as possible.. that's all I've got for now

Cusashorn
02-02-2008, 03:55 PM
<cite>Maergoth wrote:</cite><blockquote><span class="postbody">"We could probably connect it with Mistmoore if that RoK item didn't have the name as well."Mistmoore has a good bit of ties with people in Kunark.. Don't forget the Drachnids <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></span></blockquote>Yeah, but the topic creator didn't mention that the item came from the drachnids themselves.

Maergoth
02-02-2008, 04:06 PM
It drops from Tairiza the Widow Mistress in Tomb of Thuuga.. the Drachnid Queen.It's usage was explained by Fiddy Bobbick as a barrage of souls that will theoretically overload Venril Sathir in some sense.. Though I didn't mention it, It also didn't have to drop from a drachnid.. You were implying that because it was involved with RoK, it denounces it's connections with Mistmoore.. when that really isn't the case at all because Drachnids are also in RoK and connected with Mistmoore.Also, looking back.. I thought Myr'Dal were Orcs?

Cusashorn
02-02-2008, 04:46 PM
<cite>Maergoth wrote:</cite><blockquote>It drops from Tairiza the Widow Mistress in Tomb of Thuuga.. the Drachnid Queen.It's usage was explained by Fiddy Bobbick as a barrage of souls that will theoretically overload Venril Sathir in some sense.. Though I didn't mention it, It also didn't have to drop from a drachnid.. You were implying that because it was involved with RoK, it denounces it's connections with Mistmoore.. when that really isn't the case at all because Drachnids are also in RoK and connected with Mistmoore.Also, looking back.. I thought Myr'Dal were Orcs?</blockquote><p>Yeah, but you only said it was from RoK, not what it came from, so it could have been related to anything. But there's no point in arguing a minor detail like this since it's been cleared up.</p><p>The Myr'Dal are Elves. Dal being the key word, since it's thier language's word for Elf. Myr could mean anything. It could mean Mistmyr.. It could mean "Cave" or something like that. I don't think it was ever clarified.</p>

Maergoth
02-04-2008, 02:29 AM
Okay, it's official.. There's not a drop of information about this word that we haven't covered here already.. I refuse to ask it officially.. but..Some insight would be fantastic.-Rings the Lore Bell--EDIT- Myr is DRUZAIC. No, I don't know the significance of it.. but that might be worth keeping in mind. I'm leaning towards the idea that Mistmyrian is simply a title given to things Mayong has .. "Had his way" with.

Gukkor2
02-04-2008, 05:06 AM
<cite>Maergoth wrote:</cite><blockquote>There was a Vampire Uprising during Everquest 1's "Lost Dungeons of Norrath". From what I saw, the vampires entitled "Pureblood" didn't get along with "Vampire_fighter_002" that doesn't deserve a place in the eyes of Mistmoore. They had some battles, and some other crap happened.. Castle Mistmoore was completely run through by these purebloods at one point in time. </blockquote><p>There were actually four different civil wars being waged constantly in the Mistmoore Catacombs, one in each of the four castes of vampire society.  </p><p> The lowest caste, the Orphans, was divided between the Savagefang and the Nightrage.  The Savagefang were cannibals, feeding only on other vampires, while the Nightrage were an almost-animalistic tribe that actually consumed the flesh of their victims, rather than exsanguinating them.  While the Nightrage cared for nothing but feeding their hunger, the Savagefang sought to elevate their status in the eyes of the higher castes by eliminating the Nightrage, whom the higher castes shunned and hated.</p><p>The next caste up, the Sustainers, was split into the Crimson Cabal and the Harvesters.  The Crimson Cabal studied and developed the vampires' magic, while the Harvesters worked to maintain the Catacombs and the vampires' resources.  In the course of their work, the Harvesters discovered a powerful new type of magical ore.  The Crimson Cabal coveted this ore, and thus began fighting the Harvesters for possession of it.  Both also had orders to turn over the ore to the higher-ups among the vampires.</p><p>The third caste was known as the Loyals, and was split into the Bloodguard and the Stewards.  The Bloodguard were the bodyguards of the vampiric nobility, while the Stewards served them as advisors, craftsmen, etc.  As both factions began to receive the magical ore supplied them by the Sustainers, the Bloodguard began to plot an offensive against the Stewards, hoping to convince the nobility that the Stewards were no longer necessary.</p><p>The most prominent war among the vampires of the Catacombs was among the Progeny, the highest caste.  These nobles were divided into the Trueborn and the Scions.  The Trueborn claimed that Mayong Mistmoore's blood flowed through their veins, that they were literally his children.  The Scions, on the other hand, were the newest faction, made up of vampires who had only recently been turned and still held onto their former lives.  They, too, claimed to be Mistmoore's true children, and they had the power to support their claim, quickly rising through the ranks to become part of the Progeny.  The Trueborn, of course, resented this claim, and thus began waging a barely-contained cold war with the Scions, using the lower castes as pawns in an endless game of chess, with the prize supposedly being Mistmoore's favor.</p><p>Mayong, of course, didn't care about any of them, and was instead busy elevating himself to godhood, having built a new residence for himself and his true favored servants in the then-undiscovered subterranean realm of Darkhollow.</p>

Coniaric
02-04-2008, 04:40 PM
<cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite><blockquote>Or..Mayong is Mystmyr. something like a soulcube sounds like a godly item, doesn't it. Mayong's sage alludes that he attained godhood, but gave it up. perhaps the elvish woman in the painting is the reason why he gave it up voluntarily. maybe the woman in the painting is Queen Thex?</blockquote><p>The woman, as mentioned in other posts, was Zanne. On hunches, she was the woman Mayong may had loved before he was turned into an immortal vampire. Maybe, in a typical tragedy tale, she turned away, rejecting the offer of immortality or something. Then eventually she grew old and passed away while Mayong didn't age and now he's mourning her loss and keep her images everywhere in his castle.</p><p>Just a supposition, though. Mistmoore's history is shrouded in a total mystery.</p><p>On the godhood ... he gave it up possibly because he found what he was looking for and didn't need to be a god anymore. He is still immortal anyway and wields sufficient powers of his own.</p><p>On Mistmyr ... maybe, like what others said, it was a lost civilization. Or ... it was actually the name of Mistmoore himself or his family at least, but over time it was corrupted into Mistmoore by world from original name -- Mistmyr. And he just didn't bother to correct the mistake.</p><p>Well ... whatever it actually means ... it's an interesting piece of lore.</p>

Gukkor2
02-05-2008, 06:07 PM
Well, at least in the EQ1 timeline, Mistmoore didn't give up his godhood willingly.  He was forced back to (im)mortal status after being defeated by the combined efforts of mortal adventurers and Solusek Ro.  If things happened in a similar manner in the EQ2 timeline, then he's probably covering up the truth about how he lost his godhood to preserve his pride.

Wilin
10-09-2008, 05:21 PM
<p>Since there is no such thing as a necropost in the lore forum, I'll go ahead and tack on the recent zone featured for TSO.</p><p><a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/news_archive_content.vm?id=1915&section=News&locale=en_US" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/...ws&locale=en_US</a></p><p>Mistmoore: Mistmyr Manor</p><p>Here's the text:</p><p>"Enter Mistmyr Manor, if you dare. This lush manor is Mayong Mistmoore's private sanctuary. </p><p>Built and enspelled to perfectly recreate Mayong's life before the vampiric curse took him and his people, Mistmyr lets him escape the cruel reality of his current life. </p><p>Having completed a series of rituals before entering Mistmyr, adventurers are disguised as servants. Only these few are permitted access to Mayong's refuge. </p><p>Servants... and the unfortunate object of Mayong's affections. </p><p>For now, that woman is Queen Lenya Thex. Perhaps if you can find her, she can help shed light on the mysteries that shroud the manor. </p><p>Mistmyr is populated by the phantoms of Mayong's former life. They carry out the day to day routines they performed in life. Aiding them may well advance your quest for knowledge. "</p>