Dev fisting epics?

[zavael]

<p>My question is.....has anyone dev fisted epics for 50-90k? because according to the dev fist description it will hit an epic for around 2500-4700 dmg. I know myself i have never dev fisted an epic for the amount claimed in this thread on the shadowknights forum....... <a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=405240" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=405240</a></p><p>While i think maybe thier Harm touch should be looked at....maybe increase damage or lower the recast or even both, i dont think HT and DF should be compared as though they should be balanced equal.</p><p>Im all for helping other classes out but it shouldnt be said we are invited to raids because we have dev fist and are more useful in raids than SK's.</p>

[narcoleptic_l]

<p>Dev fist doesn't work on epics doing a % of damage, the OP in that thread is on crack. It HAS been working on named heroic encounters in RoK instances but I believe this is due to targeting through the main tank, and a bug. It will be 'fixed' in the next live update.</p><p> People see that big hit and think it has something to do with DPS, when it's just a % of the mob's health.</p><p> Dev fist is worthless on raids due to the power cost/10 sec stifle compared to the damage spread on an epic</p>

[zavael]

<p>They changed it to hit named mobs a while ago,i believe the "fix" is to fix the prob of actually landing a DF on a named and taking away the crits on DF.</p><p>I have landed a nice 160k hit on a named myself but i believe that was a crit with DF, as you said it is a % hit of the individual mobs health and on epics it is worthless as it does not use the % value at all.</p><p>As i said i am all for Sk's getting abetter HT but not at the sake of dragging our DF into it as a comparison of what they should be doing and saying we are doing thing we obviously cant do.</p>

[Novusod]

Some raid encounters have heroic adds which can be hit for the full value of Devastation fist. I have hit the adds in protector's realm for around 80k. Hitting an actual epic does at most 5k which is dumb since gut punch can hit for 6k or more.

[ganjookie]

this thread made me Lawl

[Quicksilver74]

<p>Wow, I'm really sick of people complaining about how Dev Fist is useless on raids.   </p><p>You guys do realize that it used to ONLY work on solo mobs right?   We used to not even have the OPTION to use it on heroics or epics!  Now we do have the option, and that alone is great.   </p><p>Additionally, It's a high damage CA that has multiple uses, you just have to be smart about it.   If you are trying to parse high, Hit it right when the mob is at 1% and about to die.   The 5-7K hit is usually a fantastic way to finish a pull.  </p><p>  Jousting an AoE?  No problem, Hit it right before you have to back out... then turn on ranged Auto Attack!  </p><p>Epic mob with nasty heroic adds?   Well thats a no brainer!  Destroy the adds with a 90K hit from dev fist!  Usually you wanna wait til the add is around 30% Hp before using it though, makes it more dramatic.  </p><p>The bottom line is, we used to NOT have an option to use this on raids, and now we do.   I can't understand why people complain about being given the option of an extra ability.  </p>

[ganjookie]

Dude, I'm not on your sack Crab, but thanks for interjecting some truth and reason to the masses.

[zavael]

<p>I'm not complaining in any way about dev fist not being a %hit on epics at all,i think its great just the way it is and i use it as you say Crabb. I was just a bit dissapointed that other classes think we can use it on epics..as its shows they have no idea.</p><p>If SK's want thier HT upgraded im all for it...i just dont want them misleading others as to what dev fist can actually do.....</p>

[Quicksilver74]

<p>People need to seriously stop worrying about other classes and focus on their own.  Bruisers have been nerfed so many times that I lost count ages ago.  It's always other classes screaming nerf nerf... when they happen to see a bruiser who has some skill playing his class well.   </p><p>   Bruisers happen to shine at soloing.    That is a very strong area of the bruiser.   However, we lack raid utility.   Ever wonder why you never see a raid guild looking for bruisers?   We don't bring a whole lot to a raid.   My point is that there is a trade-off.   However, other classes don't notice this.  They will see a bruiser soloing much easier than they are... and complain that we get a self heal, or a mez, or a devastation fist, or FD, or high avoidance, or good dps, or anything really.    </p><p>   Sadly, getting kicked in the groin is part of being a bruiser.  When you play a bruiser, yoru playing a "Tough Guy" class, but you have to be mentally tough to deal with the constant nerfbat hitting you in lower abdminal region.  </p>

[ganjookie]

[Removed for Content] we are bruisers, we ain't to good at the mental thing apparently.

[Redbed]

<cite>Kithian@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote>[Removed for Content] we are bruisers, we ain't to good at the mental thing apparently.</blockquote><p>Really?  I have a BA in kicking [Removed for Content], a phd in beating the hell out of everything and a masters in trashing a monk so badly that even quellious would get [Removed for Content].</p><p>Fight smart, not hard.</p><p>Back to the original point.  We have nothing to do with SKs HT.  They need to leave us out of it.  Whats their chance HT can fail or be resistsed?  Bet its nowhere near bad as Dev Fist.  I feel like I have to sign a waiver every time I use it.</p>