When to use Channel/ing?

[Gi]

<p>I must confess I've been a bit reluctant to use Channel because the cost in lost mana seems kinda harsh.  I'm currently using adept 1 of the level 58 Channel.  I have an adept 3 for Channeling in my bags, just waiting for level 76.</p><p>My questions:</p><p>- When's the right time to use Channeling?  Who does it [Removed for Content] off?  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>- Will the cost/benefit tradeoff be a lot less painful with ad3 Channeling?</p><p>thanks,Firebuck</p>

[Obsidiann]

I wouldn't bother using Ad3 Channel much. Master I Channel and Ad3 Channeling are both good to use near the end of a fight if someone has mana that they will not use. IE, if you have a healer with 50% mana and your dps is out and the mob will die soon, hit it. Ad3/M1 Channeling will pretty much make everyone happy if you use it at the right time (Look for 1-3 people with exceptionally high mana and the rest without for the best results).

[Antryg Mistrose]

Channel divides up power amongst the group, and lower versions like your adept1 do it at a substantial loss.Channelling magically grabs power out of nowhere when dividing up.  The difference is night & day, definetely put your adept3 in a prominent spot on your hotbars.The only time I think people might get annoyed is if you use channelling purely for when you run out of power.  For best results get a dirge to cast Gravitas on you prior to use, and its one good use for taking the heal crit AA.

[Gi]

Thanks guys -- very helpful!

[Cakassis]

I generally use channel as a way to replenish the power of my groupmates.  I'll keep my power as high as possible through effense xfer, power taps, etc, and if the healers and/or MT get wicked low on power, I'll use channel to replenish some of theirs.  I won't use it if it's a situation where manaflow or manacloak can fill the need though.

[Ran]

<cite>Cakassis wrote:</cite><blockquote>I generally use channel as a way to replenish the power of my groupmates.  I'll keep my power as high as possible through effense xfer, power taps, etc, and if the healers and/or MT get wicked low on power, I'll use channel to replenish some of theirs.  I won't use it if it's a situation where manaflow or manacloak can fill the need though.</blockquote>Time of "keep power as high as possible" as a coercer are gone... there are very few moments you have to keep your power as high as possible in group and raid so pls... power management is a thing beside... for those who think... i'm a chanter, cannot make damage, just buff, waiting for mezz something and powerreg pls roll another class.

[tralalak44]

<cite>Sziroten@Valor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cakassis wrote:</cite><blockquote>I generally use channel as a way to replenish the power of my groupmates.  I'll keep my power as high as possible through effense xfer, power taps, etc, and if the healers and/or MT get wicked low on power, I'll use channel to replenish some of theirs.  I won't use it if it's a situation where manaflow or manacloak can fill the need though.</blockquote>Time of "keep power as high as possible" as a coercer are gone... there are very few moments you have to keep your power as high as possible in group and raid so pls... power management is a thing beside... for those who think... i'm a chanter, cannot make damage, just buff, waiting for mezz something and powerreg pls roll another class. </blockquote><p>not everyone want to be a spell spammer as you mate. so my zw dps is about 1000 in RoK as MT coercer, i have utility build (agi 4548, sta 44682, wis 4488, eof ts, mw, ch) and i love my support role. i go dps when its possible, but if i need save power for my group or concentrate for CC ill do it no matter what. if i switch my aa (got mirror) + gear and have trouby in group i can easily pump up my dps 2,5-3k but at this time my support role fall down to passive pwr regen battery and my coercer mutate to spamming bot to keep perpetuality up as high as possible. its not my cup of tea and i dont have needs to roll another class. i play my coercer in way i like it to be benefit for my raid not just another dpser. .... i dont say coercer = suport only but corcer = suuport or dps and u choose way u like it.</p><p>back to OP - i use channeling if (healer/tank) dies and are rezzed (if need of power atm is critical and MS or MF arent solution) or when healer (especialy warden) go crazy at spike dmg and burning his mana down to zero then i thnx to god for channeling aa with jcap on me (7min recast). from my experience if u cast channeling (master) and 2ppl are nearly oop and rest of group at 60-90% u can pump them up almost to 100%. master version of channeling definetly ADD power that means A3 channeling > M1 channel</p>

[Ran]

<p>hm..... support or dps? are you kidding me?</p><p>Which kind of support do you mean? Cast Manaflow... wait until its up, watch carefully the raid who needs mana.... cast Manaflow on this member... wait until its up..... and so on? </p><p>This is a thing you can do next to dpsing.... support AND dps is the way. When support is a need.. fullfill your support roll but the rest of the time get you [Removed for Content] up. </p>

[tralalak44]

<cite>Sziroten@Valor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>hm..... support or dps? are you kidding me?</p><p>Which kind of support do you mean? Cast Manaflow... wait until its up, watch carefully the raid who needs mana.... cast Manaflow on this member... wait until its up..... and so on? </p><p>This is a thing you can do next to dpsing.... support AND dps is the way. When support is a need.. fullfill your support roll but the rest of the time get you [I cannot control my vocabulary] up. </p></blockquote>lol, if u think that manaflow is whole coercers support then maybe try to roll another class mate or look at your spells and read description more carefuly :))) /noflame

[Ran]

<p>tell me.. what great support you can give beside manareg in group and raid.. and pls... don't come with the mezz card..</p>

[tralalak44]

<cite>Sziroten@Valor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>tell me.. what great support you can give beside manareg in group and raid.. and pls... don't come with the mezz card..</p></blockquote><p>first of all, i dont say u cant do dmg! my zw is around 1k as MT coercer without whole int line and perpetuality and my equip is tunned for max int/power (solo buffed 1050+ int and 10700+ power, iam in top 10 coercers ww in power leaderboard nad top 1 on our server ).</p><p>what great support u can do? did u ever heared about hex dolls? i cast 3 of them and keep these debuffs up, so my other debuffs (ct, asylum, psyche), keeping up brainshock+shift mana  for my power needs (99% of time iam at 85-95% power), manaflowing and channeling  if someone is running oop same as watching mt health bar and cast stuns/dazes in right time to buy few more seconds for my healers, curing arcane debuffs on mt/healers or strip charms or dmg shields from mobs, using deagro on dps (warlock, ranja, brig in this case) evetŕytime when its up or sending mob back to tank with tought snap when some crazy wizzy crits his fusion for 35k+ :))) i dont realy slack on raids as u can think watchning my dps parse, but from my point of view its more benefical for my raid mates this work then parse 2k.</p>

[Ran]

<p>hm gratulation you're in the top 10... </p><p>there are far bether debuffer then we are.. </p><p>there is NO need to keep your power that high except your group or your raid is slacking...</p><p>you watch mt healthbar?... there are healers out there which should have a lock at it and casting stun stifle or dispel forces not that much time.. a thing like powermanagement beside your work...</p><p>you will tell me.. if you parses like 2000 or 3000... your raid will benefit more from your "if this and this happens" than from your pure dps? you just need those support things when your group or your raid is slacking!</p><p>thought snap when a t1 dd class hit they're crazy high nukes....the rest your tank should hold aggro or you have to change your slacking tank...</p><p>in the beginning... i thought like you but... those thinks are just needed when your raid or group is slacking. Is there the need to keep your groupmates at 100% power? Power should last as long the fight goes... i definitly put no manaflow at anyone which is at 30% Power and the mob at under 10%... its just a waste of my time and needless..</p>

[tralalak44]

<cite>Sziroten@Valor wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>hm gratulation you're in the top 10... </p><p>there are far bether debuffer then we are.. </p><p>there is NO need to keep your power that high except your group or your raid is slacking...</p><p>you watch mt healthbar?... there are healers out there which should have a lock at it and casting stun stifle or dispel forces not that much time.. a thing like powermanagement beside your work...</p><p>you will tell me.. if you parses like 2000 or 3000... your raid will benefit more from your "if this and this happens" than from your pure dps? you just need those support things when your group or your raid is slacking!</p><p>thought snap when a t1 dd class hit they're crazy high nukes....the rest your tank should hold aggro or you have to change your slacking tank...</p><p>in the beginning... i thought like you but... those thinks are just needed when your raid or group is slacking. Is there the need to keep your groupmates at 100% power? Power should last as long the fight goes... i definitly put no manaflow at anyone which is at 30% Power and the mob at under 10%... its just a waste of my time and needless.</p></blockquote>ok we are all slackers and you rock. end of discussion.

[Melodar]

Simply put I do thisIf healer gets under 20% or tank gets around 10% i'll toss out channeling. If either of those two run out of power the group can get into trouble. I dont worry so much about others in the group until the very end of a fight.  Using it any other time can [Removed for Content] folks off and seems to be a waste to me. The more caster in group the more effective it is, a tank can become completely filled and the rest of the group up to 75% off using it at AD3.