View Full Version : Is it me, or do my hps suck?
drew4691
01-17-2008, 03:28 PM
<p>lvl 39 with... so far i went 4/4/4/8 STA, 448 INT, and currently have 11 points in reaving line.. maybe i should go 8448 in STA or something?</p><p>Health: 3,428</p><p>Power: 1,785</p><p>STR: 177</p><p>AGI: 113</p><p>STA: 249</p><p>INT: 135</p><p>WIS: 92</p><p>My lvl 39 BRIGAND friend's stats are:</p><p>Health: 3,509</p><p>Power: 2,184</p><p>STR: 219</p><p>AGI: 226</p><p>STA:244</p><p>INT:26</p><p>WIS:23</p><p>I know he put AA in his sta line, but how does he have more HPs than me!? We both have MC gear, same lvl etc.. he has like 3 or 4 more AAs but thats about it. Stats are unbuffed of course, but still... lol. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />" width="15" height="15" /></p>
Nulgara
01-17-2008, 04:39 PM
crusaders have the least hp out of the tanks, brigand/swash i believe has the most out of the scouts so thats why your seeing that. as you get higher in level though you will surpass him, just takes a bit longer for you to get there is all. and for info 1 stam will equal about 3hp for you so one point in stamina aa equals about 12hp, not worth an aa in my opinion. until higher levels building up your hp as a crusader is difficult, but with all the self healing you can do as an SK it shouldnt cause a problem in groups.
RockLee
01-17-2008, 05:02 PM
Well its not too awful hard to get your health up in later levels. I am level 80 in non-raid gear and i have 10.5k unbuffed with near 700 stamina. I only have 4 points into the stamina of the crusader tree and i have the increased health of the crusader tree as well. Also get a racial 3% and i picked all the 2.5% in the character traits. Most of my gear is 100 hp -150, mainly around the 120 range. All of which are items from the RoK quests. So its not that difficult. The highest health guardian is 12.7k that has alot of the RoK fabled raid gear, so we arnt doing so bad.
Grimfort
01-17-2008, 05:05 PM
Actually I belive that SKs hp do actually suck (edit: in comparison to brigs I really mean <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />). I have near 500 sta, am specced for +health in all my options for barbarian line, and all the +health in the sta crusader line and have +100 health adorns and I have a woopping 9.2k health, wereas my brigand friend also specced for sta and has 10.5k health both of us at lvl 80.
Grimfort
01-17-2008, 05:14 PM
<p>To add, on eq2players, the class with the most hp is actually an SK!!! </p><p> The next sk in the list is 61, then 80 so assume these 3 are above normal specced <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</p><p>After that its mostly guardian, brusier (really??) zerker and paladin. Think we got short changed somewhere!</p>
Nulgara
01-17-2008, 05:17 PM
just shy of 9.5k myself at 80, i took both 2.5% boosts in traits but I dont run stamina line so thats about 375ish hp that i could add. I'm also in half MC half legendary at the moment with 1 fabled from quest. with potion i can self buff to 10k, ive been looking at my next few upgrades into full legendary and once done ill be close to 10.5k'ish self buffed. lately i have been tradeing stamina upgrades in favor of raw hp cause it has more of an effect. (unless a piece has extreme stamina). So far have had no problems doing rok stuff with only 1 healer in group. KC at lvl 73 was tough but doable. CoA is a walk in the park, VoeS.. dont make me laugh. CoM adds sucked but not difficult. Maidens is the toughest one for us so far. so even with the lower hp it has been an issue as of yet. My SK though is built to parry hehe. self buffed to 398 agi and in our group im over 450 easily. have all the parry adorns and such and the +hp adorns and of course the +dps neck adorn. the only times we have had difficulty is when we get a mob with lots of adds that hit hard. but on topic again. hp is a constant battle for crusaders but when you really start to focus on it there is quite a bi out there to be had.
I'm sitting at 5460 hp right now at level 54, and I'm waiting until I get another 2 levels in alchemy to upgrade the hp's on my rings. That's another 140 hp. I'm not wearing all MC stuff for my level (the 52 stuff) but its not bad.
MaCloud1032
01-17-2008, 06:20 PM
<p>As SKs our hp will be the lowest of all tanks if in equal gear/stats. But on the other hand we will have the largest power pool of all the tanks. We can cast a lot more than warriors or brawlers.Right now at lv 80 iam sitting at 10.7k hp and will probly spec back into my power trates over hp. I much prefer to have 9k hp and 6k+ power over my current stats.</p>
Beldin_
01-18-2008, 12:02 AM
STA speced Brigs have really nice HPs .. when my Brig was 62 the next Brig that had more HPs was around level 68-69 i think <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />
drew4691
01-18-2008, 12:54 AM
bah i just went down str instead.. that 10pct recast/reuse is awesome.. 10pct doesn't sound like much but you can tell a difference.. <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
In their stamina line Brigands get 13% extra hitpoints if they slap on a roundshield. It's 8% without. That's why you'll have fewer hitpoints than a Brigand. There's also race to take into account if you're something like an erudite - they lose out on a 3% health buff that some other races have. And Grimfort, Brawlers have the highest health (and lowest power) pool of all the fighters. It's understandable that they'd be the highest on average.
CHIMPNOODLE.
01-19-2008, 05:43 AM
<p>Could be some racial traits, or you chose power pools etc when given choices for Health pool etc. Things like that. Adorns also make a large difference. </p><p>If you concentrate on HP gear/AA/Traditions, you can push it up by a large margin. Really depends what you want though. Of the top 10 highest HP toons on my server (of any class).....the majority are SKs actually. 4 are SKs, 3 are Guardians, 1 is a Pally, 1 is a Zerker, and 1 is a Bruiser.</p>
Nebul
01-20-2008, 12:25 PM
<p>LOL...I love when non tank classes point out they have more hp than I do.</p><p>What are they going to do with it? Not tank that's what they'll do.</p>
Beldin_
01-20-2008, 01:10 PM
<cite>Nebular wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>LOL...I love when non tank classes point out they have more hp than I do.</p><p>What are they going to do with it? Not tank that's what they'll do.</p></blockquote><p>Have you ever heared about soloing or duoing, and if so, do you know who tanks when soloing, or when maybe a Brig duos with a healer, or a trio Brig, healer any other DD ? Ok .. you're right .. the healer tanks or maybe the fun-pet <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/ed515dbff23a0ee3241dcc0a601c9ed6.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>And before someone comes with that .. of course i know that this is no valid raid build and that i will suck hard on raids.</p>
Nebul
01-21-2008, 02:45 PM
I thought we were talking about a group setting.
Beldin_
01-21-2008, 03:37 PM
<cite>Nebular wrote:</cite><blockquote>I thought we were talking about a group setting.</blockquote>The OP just talked about the HPs of a SK against a STA-speced Brig and they are both just level 39 <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />
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